More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby nathanq42 » Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:03 am

12 Team 20 man roster 4 reserve slots 1 ppr .2 points per carry
Garbage
1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1WR/RB/TE 1K 1DEF
QB Jimmy Garoppolo, Jared Goff, Nick Foles, Gardner Minshew
RB Rashaad Penny, Austin Ekeler, Royce Freeman, Jerrick McKinnon, Justice Hill
WR Mike Evans, Odell Beckham Junior, DJ Moore, Dede Westbrook, Parris Campbell, Preston Williams, Zach Parscal, James Washington, Hakeem Butler
TE TJ Hockenson, Darren Waller, Jacob Hollister

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5 2020 firsts (3 in top 6 lottery, 2 in playoffs)
2 2021 firsts (both mid to late)

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby djeternal2 » Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:04 am

DynoScout wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2019 9:12 am
Bryan Edwards has been on the shelf since early November and I sense some "out of sight/out of mind" happening with him right now. I like him, and he might not be a top 24 rookie pick right now in a fair percentage of leagues.

Any one else tuned in on Edwards? I assume we won't see him until the Senior Bowl at this point. (I assume he's been invited and health permitting will attend.)
He was invited and like you said it'll depend on his health. I like him as a big bodied WR like a Mike Evans/Dez Bryant but that means he most likely can be had a discount since his measurables won't be through the roof.
10 tm ppr 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 2 Flex, TE, K, TDEF (Yr 6)
QB - Ryan, Wentz
RB - Gurley, A Jones, Cohen, Kerryon, Dam Williams, Duke, I Smith, Armstead, T Carson
WR - AJG, Watkins, ARob, A. Cooper, K Allen, M Williams, Godwin, Callaway, JJAW
TE - Gesicki, I Smith, Herndon, Eifert, Sternberger, Dissly

10 tm TE prem 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, K, 2 DB, 2 DL, 2 LB (Yr 5)
QB - Mahomes, Mayfield, Wentz,
RB - Zeke, Chubb, Kerryon, Duke, Edmonds, B Hill
WR - Nuk, AJG, ARob, JJS, Samuel, MVS, T Smith, D Hamilton, Gallup, K Johnson
TE - Njoku, Eifert, Herndon, I Smith, I Thomas, Moreau
DL - Watt, K Clark, Q Williams
LB - D Jones, D Bush
DB - K Neal, Bell

DLF Early Birds - 16 tm SF (1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex, 1 SF
QB - A Rodgers, Darnold, Rosen, M Rudolph, Luck
RB - Dam Williams, J Howard, Crowell, Duke, AP, Gore, B Hill
WR - Julio, Golladay, Kirk, Stills, Manny Sanders, Kumerow, N Harry
TE - Jarwin, Shaheen, Firkser, Conklin

2020 1st - 2, 2020 2nd - 2, 2020 3rd - 0

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby bjd5211 » Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:58 am

djeternal2 wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2019 6:27 am

I didn't specifically name Burrow but I thought my comment in bold was understood that the top 2 were Tua & Burrow. Also didn't realize Fields isn't eligible for 20 which weakens the QB class even more.

As for the TEs none of the guys in 20 are even close as prospects to the guys you mentioned (Hooper, Henry, etc). Maybe one will develop 3 years from now but I doubt any TEs get taken in the first 2 rounds of rookie drafts this year.
This is still a stronger QB class than most years, it's better than last year and 2016 and likely better than 2017 when you consider how relatively low Watson/Mahomes were regarded coming out compared to the top QBs most years. It's even on par potentially with 2018 and has 5 guys that could be 1st rounders this year (Burrow, Tua, Herbert, Fromm, Eason) plus Hurts could potentially sneak in if some team thinks they can make him into Lamar 2.0 but he's probably going day 2.

As for the TEs the guys I mentioned are very much in the same class as Henry and Hooper were when they were coming into the league. I've seen both mocked in the 1st round but they are on that 1st/2nd round bubble so early-mid 2nd is probably a safer projection. Bryant is currently 34th overall on PFFs top 100 Big Board and Pinkney is 49th overall for reference and others have them ranked in the same vicinity.

So RB/WR is clearly the strength of this draft and both position groups are far stronger than they are in typical drafts, which is obviously great for us in fantasy. The QB and TE groups are not weak though, they're just in line with what we usually get each year from those positions or slightly better.

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby nathanq42 » Mon Dec 02, 2019 9:41 am

As far as jeudy goes compared to past ALA WRs, I'd put him a hair below cooper, but above Calvin Ridley, and no where close to Julio... but not many are close to Julio...

Im aiming for Jeudy and 4 RBs with my 5 firsts, I think I got a good core of WRs to live off of and I REALLY need some help at RB (hopefully Penny can secure an expanded role in the offense from now until the hawks win the superbowl ;) ) and hopefully I can sell Ekeler for a more concrete RB but if not no biggie I'll roll the dice on him if I wont get a fair price.

But if I can walk out of the draft with:
Swift/Taylor
Jeudy
Dobbins
Akers
Etienne
I would be a very happy man
12 Team 20 man roster 4 reserve slots 1 ppr .2 points per carry
Garbage
1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1WR/RB/TE 1K 1DEF
QB Jimmy Garoppolo, Jared Goff, Nick Foles, Gardner Minshew
RB Rashaad Penny, Austin Ekeler, Royce Freeman, Jerrick McKinnon, Justice Hill
WR Mike Evans, Odell Beckham Junior, DJ Moore, Dede Westbrook, Parris Campbell, Preston Williams, Zach Parscal, James Washington, Hakeem Butler
TE TJ Hockenson, Darren Waller, Jacob Hollister

Picks
5 2020 firsts (3 in top 6 lottery, 2 in playoffs)
2 2021 firsts (both mid to late)

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby YouMightDieTryin » Mon Dec 02, 2019 12:09 pm

Just cemented the 2nd overall pick. Let the over-analyzing begin!
10-Team Dynasty League QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/WR/FLEX (23 man rosters + 2 IR + 2 Taxi, non-PPR scoring)
QB: Brady, Mayfield, Cousins, (Luck)
RB: Saquon, Ezekiel Elliott, K. Drake, K.Hunt,Jamaal Williams, A.Peterson, Malcolm Brown, Justin Jackson,
WR: OBJ, B.Cooks, D.Parker, A.Humphries, C. Conley, D. Hamilton, T. Patrick,
TE: H.Henry, C.Herndon
Taxi: I Smith Jr, R. Anderson
2020: 1st, (3) 2nds, 3rd, 4th
2021: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Mon Dec 02, 2019 12:30 pm

YouMightDieTryin wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 12:09 pm
Let the over-analyzing begin!
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby bjd5211 » Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:27 pm

https://247sports.com/Article/Jalen-Rea ... ssion=true

Jalen Reagor WR TCU declares for the draft.

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby bjd5211 » Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:29 pm

https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... -nfl-draft

As does one of the top TE prospects

Albert Okwuegbunam, Missouri

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby davieglove34 » Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:55 pm

Chwf3rd wrote:
Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:30 pm
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Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:01 pm
Does anyone else see CPat when watching Laviska?
He’s much more skilled. Sammy Watkins is my favorite comp for him.
As a Colorado alum, I've watched every game Laviska has played for CU. I'm probably biased, but Laviska is a beast. He's a totally different player from Sammy Watkins. He's bigger than Sammy and is a shade slower, (6'2, 225 lbs for Shenault, 6'1, 211 for Watkins). I've seen experts compare him to JuJu Smith-Schuster and Anquan Bolden. He's almost got a RB-type build, and he plays like it. He even lines up in the wild-cat for us. It almost always takes more than one guy to tackle him. He's got unbelievably strong hands, makes contested catches, and is extremely elusive in open space. He doesn't quite have the elite skillset of size, speed, and route running of a Jerry Jeudy, but depending of who drafts him, I could definitely see him being a monster in the NFL. If you don't believe me, haven't seen him much, or just enjoy watching him play, check out his game against Nebraska last season:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7izvSV1-iOw
10-Team, .5 PPR Dynasty League.
1-QB / 2-RB / 2-WR / 1-TE / 2-FLEX / 1-D/ST / 1-K / 12-BN / 3-IR / 3-TAXI SQUAD


QB: Josh Allen / Ryan Fitzpatrick / (Former Andrew Luck owner)
RB: Le'Veon Bell / James Conner / Chris Carson / Mark Ingram / Bo Scarbrough / Jaylen Samuels / Bilal Powell
WR: Odell Beckham Jr. / Amari Cooper / Mike Evans / Sammy Watkins / Emmanuel Sanders / Dede Westbrook / Terry McLaurin
TE: Jacob Hollister / Jack Doyle / Gronk
D/ST: Patriots / Steelers
K: Mason Crosby

IR: Ben Roethlisberger / Will Dissly / Matthew Stafford

Taxi: Noah Fant / Preston Williams

Picks:
2020: 1st
2021: 2nd / 3rd
2022: 1st / 2nd / 3rd

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby Lord_Varys » Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:19 pm

Might be out on a limb, but I don't like Laviska as a pro prospect. He reminds me of N'Keal Harry -- good at contested catches, uber explosive and great after the catch, but doesn't show nearly enough as a route runner creating separation for me to feel comfortable with his pro prospects. I prefer WRs who win on separation in the NFL.

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby nathanq42 » Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:22 pm

Lord_Varys wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:19 pm
Might be out on a limb, but I don't like Laviska as a pro prospect. He reminds me of N'Keal Harry -- good at contested catches, uber explosive and great after the catch, but doesn't show nearly enough as a route runner creating separation for me to feel comfortable with his pro prospects. I prefer WRs who win on separation in the NFL.
To my eye, Shenault looks a lot faster, and moves much better laterally than Harry did/does
12 Team 20 man roster 4 reserve slots 1 ppr .2 points per carry
Garbage
1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1WR/RB/TE 1K 1DEF
QB Jimmy Garoppolo, Jared Goff, Nick Foles, Gardner Minshew
RB Rashaad Penny, Austin Ekeler, Royce Freeman, Jerrick McKinnon, Justice Hill
WR Mike Evans, Odell Beckham Junior, DJ Moore, Dede Westbrook, Parris Campbell, Preston Williams, Zach Parscal, James Washington, Hakeem Butler
TE TJ Hockenson, Darren Waller, Jacob Hollister

Picks
5 2020 firsts (3 in top 6 lottery, 2 in playoffs)
2 2021 firsts (both mid to late)

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby alewilliam789 » Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:42 pm

I think Shenault and Eteinne are going to be the most controversial prospects because their projections could have them being top tier players in the right situation to possible back-ups/gadget roles.

If Shenault is smart he should tell teams he’s just an athlete willing to participate in all the offensive skill position drills (TE, WR, RB). I truly believe that Shenault will be more successful in the NFL being used as part TE, part Wildcat RB, and part WR than solely being any one of those positions.
12 Owner 1 PPR (4th Season) 1QB, 2WR, 1RB, 1TE, 1 FLEX, 1K, 1 DEF -- 20 man roster
Record: 7-6
QB - Watson, Prescott, Carr
WR - Courtland Sutton, Michael Gallup, AJ Brown, JJ Arcega-Whiteside, John Brown, Andy Isabella, Josh Reynolds
RB - Miles Sanders
TE - T.J. Hockenson, I Thomas, J. Oliver

Picks:
2020-
4 1sts, 5 2nds, and a 3rd


12 Owner 1 PPR (3rd Season) 1QB, 2WR, 1RB, 1TE, 1 FLEX, 1K, 1 DEF -- 20 man roster
Record: 6-7
QB: Rivers, Wentz, Lock
RB: David Johnson, Mixon, Hyde
WR: Michael Thomas, Amari Cooper, Brandin Cooks, AJ Green, JJ Arcega-Whiteside, Josh Reynolds, Andy Isabella
TE: Kittle, OJ Howard, Chris Herndon

Picks:
2020-
1st and 3rd

12 Owner 1 PPR (1st Season) 1QB 1-3 RB 1-3 WR 1-2 TE
1 K 1D/ST — 20 man rosters
Record: 7-6
QB: Mahomes, Stafford
RB: Chubb, Guice, Penny, Duke Johnson, Darrell Henderson
WR: Landry, Sutton, Marvin Jones, Harry, Crowder, Josh Reynolds
TE: Hooper, Goedert

2020:
2 1st, 1 2nd, 1 3rd Round Picks

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby nathanq42 » Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:47 pm

alewilliam789 wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:42 pm
I think Shenault and Eteinne are going to be the most controversial prospects because their projections could have them being top tier players in the right situation to possible back-ups/gadget roles.

If Shenault is smart he should tell teams he’s just an athlete willing to participate in all the offensive skill position drills (TE, WR, RB). I truly believe that Shenault will be more successful in the NFL being used as part TE, part Wildcat RB, and part WR than solely being any one of those positions.
I don't think anyone will be more controversial than Reagor...

I agree shenault should say he is willing to fill any roll they think he will fit into
12 Team 20 man roster 4 reserve slots 1 ppr .2 points per carry
Garbage
1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1WR/RB/TE 1K 1DEF
QB Jimmy Garoppolo, Jared Goff, Nick Foles, Gardner Minshew
RB Rashaad Penny, Austin Ekeler, Royce Freeman, Jerrick McKinnon, Justice Hill
WR Mike Evans, Odell Beckham Junior, DJ Moore, Dede Westbrook, Parris Campbell, Preston Williams, Zach Parscal, James Washington, Hakeem Butler
TE TJ Hockenson, Darren Waller, Jacob Hollister

Picks
5 2020 firsts (3 in top 6 lottery, 2 in playoffs)
2 2021 firsts (both mid to late)

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby Forza_Azzurri » Tue Dec 03, 2019 8:05 pm

nathanq42 wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:47 pm
alewilliam789 wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:42 pm
I think Shenault and Eteinne are going to be the most controversial prospects because their projections could have them being top tier players in the right situation to possible back-ups/gadget roles.

If Shenault is smart he should tell teams he’s just an athlete willing to participate in all the offensive skill position drills (TE, WR, RB). I truly believe that Shenault will be more successful in the NFL being used as part TE, part Wildcat RB, and part WR than solely being any one of those positions.
I don't think anyone will be more controversial than Reagor...

I agree shenault should say he is willing to fill any roll they think he will fit into
He’s has had such a bad year ... I surprised that he declared for the draft.

16 Team PPR | QB (1) RB (2-4) WR (2-5) TE (1-2) K (1) | DT (1-2) DE (2-4) LB (2-5) CB (3-6) S (2-5)

|QB| R. Wilson, J. Allen, D. Carr, D. Lock, E. Stick (taxi)
|RB| A. Kamara, J. Jacobs, J. Mixon, L. Murray, R. Anderson (IR)
|WR| C. Godwin, D.J. Moore, D.K. Metcalf, M. Gallup, , J. Ross, Da. Moore
|TE| J. Hollister, M. Gesicki, K. Rudolph, T. Eifert, I. Thomas, M. LaCosse, R. Gronkowski
|K| B. Maher
|DT| S. Richardson, Q. Williams, T. Bryan, T. Hill (taxi)
|DE| J. Clowney, Y. Ngakoue, J. Pierre-Paul, D. Barnett, T. Charlton, E. Ansah, A. Key (IR), J. Sweat (taxi)
|LB| L. Vander Esch, D. Trevathan, C. Holcomb, N. Gerry, M. Kendricks, S. Dion Hamilton, S. Ebukam, T.J. Edwards, M. Jefferson, V. Joseph (IR), R. Foster (IR), K. Beckwith (IR), D. Cole (IR), S. Eguavoen (taxi)
|CB| S. Gilmore, M. Peters, D. Trufant, G. Conley, B. Jones, G. Haley
|S| M. Fitzpatrick, T. Walker, X. Woods, E. Thomas, E. Murray
|2020 PICKS| #1 (x2), #3, #6
|2021 PICKS| #1, #2, #3

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby alewilliam789 » Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:44 pm

I think people expect this draft to be better than any draft before, but I think it’s more like a deeper 2018. Obviously that was a good draft as well, but it wasn’t one of the greatest of all time
12 Owner 1 PPR (4th Season) 1QB, 2WR, 1RB, 1TE, 1 FLEX, 1K, 1 DEF -- 20 man roster
Record: 7-6
QB - Watson, Prescott, Carr
WR - Courtland Sutton, Michael Gallup, AJ Brown, JJ Arcega-Whiteside, John Brown, Andy Isabella, Josh Reynolds
RB - Miles Sanders
TE - T.J. Hockenson, I Thomas, J. Oliver

Picks:
2020-
4 1sts, 5 2nds, and a 3rd


12 Owner 1 PPR (3rd Season) 1QB, 2WR, 1RB, 1TE, 1 FLEX, 1K, 1 DEF -- 20 man roster
Record: 6-7
QB: Rivers, Wentz, Lock
RB: David Johnson, Mixon, Hyde
WR: Michael Thomas, Amari Cooper, Brandin Cooks, AJ Green, JJ Arcega-Whiteside, Josh Reynolds, Andy Isabella
TE: Kittle, OJ Howard, Chris Herndon

Picks:
2020-
1st and 3rd

12 Owner 1 PPR (1st Season) 1QB 1-3 RB 1-3 WR 1-2 TE
1 K 1D/ST — 20 man rosters
Record: 7-6
QB: Mahomes, Stafford
RB: Chubb, Guice, Penny, Duke Johnson, Darrell Henderson
WR: Landry, Sutton, Marvin Jones, Harry, Crowder, Josh Reynolds
TE: Hooper, Goedert

2020:
2 1st, 1 2nd, 1 3rd Round Picks


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