Shoreline Steamers wrote: ↑
Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:59 pm
Ice wrote: ↑
Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:36 am
bjd5211 wrote: ↑
Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:19 am
The rules don't stop those hits happening, took out Rodgers last year even with the rules in place.
Of course they don’t stop all hits from happening as evidenced by so many roughing penalties.
That said, for QB’s this season, diving forward is no different than sliding for a QB these days as it relates to ball position. Not sure I like that btw.
Maybe I'm not getting exactly what you're trying to say here, but there most definitely are a couple of differences between a QB diving for yardage versus sliding if my interpretation of the rules is accurate.
1. A diving QB will have the ball placed at the spot it ends up in when downed by contact, as a forward diving QB is a player you can hit. Of course, the defender must take care not to hit late, or hit to the head. But you can hit a QB who is diving forward.
2. You cannot hit a QB who is sliding feet forward, baseball style. They have given themself up, and hitting them results in a penalty. Additionally, the ball is placed at the spot it was when the QB initiated the slide. Not where the slide finishes. I'm pretty sure it was Kirk Cousins in Week 9 who was scrambling for a first-down, but when he saw the defenders heading his way decided to slide. Unfortunately for the Vikings, he initiated his slide short of the first down marker so they did not pick up a new set of downs.
Nah they changed it for headfirst to be treated like sliding feet first in Aug 2018.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... st-slides/
In 2018, the NFL is considering a player to have given himself up if he dives head first, the same way a player has given himself up when he slides feet first. That means a player can’t be hit after he goes into a head-first dive, and it also means the ball will be spotted at the point where the player began to dive, rather than at the point where the player finished moving forward.
“A quarterback does not have to slide feet first to be considered to be giving himself up,” the league’s online rules say. “Regardless whether the slide is feet first or head first, as long as he gives himself up, he should receive the protections afforded to him as a player in a defenseless posture.”
There was a play early this season where the QB dove headfirst to try and break the plane for a TD and he was ruled short due to the rule change from last year.
10 tm ppr 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 2 Flex, TE, K, TDEF (Yr 6)
QB - Ryan, Wentz
RB - Gurley, A Jones, Cohen, Kerryon, Dam Williams, Duke, I Smith, Armstead, T Carson
WR - AJG, Watkins, ARob, A. Cooper, K Allen, M Williams, Godwin, Callaway, JJAW
TE - Gesicki, I Smith, Herndon, Eifert, Sternberger, Dissly
10 tm TE prem 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, K, 2 DB, 2 DL, 2 LB (Yr 5)
QB - Mahomes, Mayfield, Wentz,
RB - Zeke, Chubb, Kerryon, Duke, Edmonds, B Hill
WR - Nuk, AJG, ARob, JJS, Samuel, MVS, T Smith, D Hamilton, Gallup, K Johnson
TE - Njoku, Eifert, Herndon, I Smith, I Thomas, Moreau
DL - Watt, K Clark, Q Williams
LB - D Jones, D Bush
DB - K Neal, Bell
DLF Early Birds - 16 tm SF (1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex, 1 SF
QB - A Rodgers, Darnold, Rosen, M Rudolph, Luck
RB - Damian Williams, J Howard, Duke, AP, Gore
WR - Julio, Golladay, Kirk, Stills, Manny Sanders, N Harry
TE - Jarwin, Gesicki, Boyle, Sprinkle