Unvaccinated Player List

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Re: Unvaccinated Player List

Postby jcc6fd » Tue Aug 10, 2021 10:56 am

Vaccination status definitely impacts fantasy football, but it's obviously contentious. Hoping we can stick to stating who is unvaccinated for football availability reasons.

Gesicki and Shaheen are apparently both unvaccinated, leaving a potential hole at TE for MIA.
10 Team Half PPR Scoring SF
QB: Mahomes, Hurts, Minshew
RB: Kamara, K. Hunt, Warren, Bigsby, D. Cook, Jamaal Williams, J. Wilson, McLaughlin, McKinnon, J. Kelley
WR: A.J. Brown, Diggs, K. Allen, C. Watson, Cooks, Pickens, W. Robinson
TE: Kelce, J. Smith, Musgrave

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Re: Unvaccinated Player List

Postby Patsfan86 » Tue Aug 10, 2021 12:04 pm

Blah blah blah blah blah
this is your fault
blah blah blah blah blur blah blah blah
So the meaningless message board arguing got us nowhere? Wow im surprised.

Ok there is your political argument, had to get it out of the way.

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Re: Unvaccinated Player List

Postby Kurt G.O.A.T. » Wed Aug 11, 2021 3:59 am

can you imagine these footballers talking to their coke dealer? "hey, what's in this coke man? give me a list of every ingredient".

haha, they're all suddenly professors about vaccines.

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Re: Unvaccinated Player List

Postby hockeyBjj » Wed Aug 11, 2021 10:38 am

Thread should be able to stay on topic. Opinions aside, this is to address the risks that come with owning unvaccinated players due to the differing rules on close contacts equalling games missed. Let's just keep discussion to those parameters.

As far as I know, Baker Mayfield, Patrick Mahomes, and Ryan Tannenhill are the only confirmed vaccinated starting QBs

Dak, Lamar, Cousins, Josh Allen definitely not. Brady and Rodgers dodge the question so likely not
Team 1- 10 team ppr, 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flx, 1D, 1K
2022: 1-8
Finishes: 6th, 6th, 1st, 5th, 6th, 9th
QB: Lamar Jackson, Purdy
RB: Bijan, Dobbins, Achane, Charbonnet, Algier, McBride, waiver trash
WR: JSN, QJ, Addison, Dotson, Skyy Moore, Jameson Williams, Hyatt, T Dell, Boutte, Skowronek, Quez Watkins, Greg Dortch, waiver trash
TE: Hockenson, F Monroe, Juwan, Musgrave
D/K: Patriots, Vikings, Saints, Dicker

picks-
2024- 1,1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,4,5,5
2025 1,1,1,2,3,4,5

team 2- 12 team SF, .5PPR, .5TE boost, 1QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
2022: 8-1
Finishes: 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd :wall:
QB: Ljax, GenoD Jones, Minshew, Dobbs
RB: CMC, Stevenson, A Jones, Chubb, A Mattison, D cook, Perine, Mckinnon,
WR:Tyreek, Diggs, C Kupp, D Adams, Keenan Allen, Lockett, Gallup, A Lazard, Hodgins
TE: Kelce, LaPorta, Irv Smith,
No picks until 2026 5th rounder lol

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Re: Unvaccinated Player List

Postby CGW » Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:09 am

I'm willing to buy unvaccinated players at discounts, if there's any to be had...so I like the idea of this list/thread.

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Re: Unvaccinated Player List

Postby Ice » Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:15 am

CGW wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:09 am I'm willing to buy unvaccinated players at discounts, if there's any to be had...so I like the idea of this list/thread.
The only real way of knowing status is if the player actually states he has not been vaccinated. BTW, players that have already had Covid have the antibodies so they are pretty safe even if they get the latest Variant.

Saying they wish to keep their information private doesn't really mean anything more than those comments.

I do like the let's try to get a discount angle. Let us know if that works! :D
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Re: Unvaccinated Player List

Postby abloom » Wed Aug 11, 2021 12:40 pm

Ice wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:15 am
CGW wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:09 am I'm willing to buy unvaccinated players at discounts, if there's any to be had...so I like the idea of this list/thread.
The only real way of knowing status is if the player actually states he has not been vaccinated. BTW, players that have already had Covid have the antibodies so they are pretty safe even if they get the latest Variant.

Saying they wish to keep their information private doesn't really mean anything more than those comments.

I do like the let's try to get a discount angle. Let us know if that works! :D
um no: see Lamar Jackson. The antibodies following covid19 infection is not very long lasting. It is not currently known how long (if any) immunity post covid19 infection lasts, but i've seen some doctors suggesting up to 3 months. Additionally as seen previously antibody effectiveness is strain dependent.
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, Fields, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens, wilson
T: Kelce, Goedert, Thomas, woods
D: cle, nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson, Browning, Rudolph, Zappe
R: Swift, Walker, Dobbins, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen, Nuk, Tre tucker, C Samuel,
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Team #4 3rd
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2023/ ... =0004&O=01

Team #5 4th
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2023/ ... =0009&O=01

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Re: Unvaccinated Player List

Postby Ice » Wed Aug 11, 2021 2:09 pm

abloom wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 12:40 pm
Ice wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:15 am
CGW wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:09 am I'm willing to buy unvaccinated players at discounts, if there's any to be had...so I like the idea of this list/thread.
The only real way of knowing status is if the player actually states he has not been vaccinated. BTW, players that have already had Covid have the antibodies so they are pretty safe even if they get the latest Variant.

Saying they wish to keep their information private doesn't really mean anything more than those comments.

I do like the let's try to get a discount angle. Let us know if that works! :D
um no: see Lamar Jackson. The antibodies following covid19 infection is not very long lasting. It is not currently known how long (if any) immunity post covid19 infection lasts, but i've seen some doctors suggesting up to 3 months. Additionally as seen previously antibody effectiveness is strain dependent.
Not going to debate how long the adaptive human body will make antibodies regarding Covid but production may in fact be a lifetime. When the body is called on to produce specific targeted antibodies they do through MBC. That is what happens as a result of Vaccine or past infection.

The effectiveness which is what I think you are getting at is very much still in question just like the effectiveness of the vaccine over time is obviously very much in question.

Personally, I would recommend the elderly with any health issue to get vaccinated regardless if they already have had Covid. One thing that is almost a certainty is we will be seeing annual booster shots much like getting an annual flu shot going forward.

Not sure why so many won't get the vaccine but my guess is many know if they are young and healthy they will get over it.

What is obvious is young adults simply are not getting vaccinated at the same rate. Here is an an interesting and very informative link regarding vaccination rates in NYC. 70 plus% over 65 have been vaccinated. Over 26% of adults haven't even had one dose. Demographic information is interesting as well.

https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/covid/cov ... cines.page

BTW,

From the for what its worth department; What I hear in the industry is both Vaccines or immunity from acquiring Covid seem to work around 8 months and if secondary covid infection does occur antibody production kicks up making the second go around not as bad overall.

The spike we are seeing today is from primarily the young adults with no vaccination history or never have had Covid in the first place.
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Re: Unvaccinated Player List

Postby YouMightDieTryin » Wed Aug 11, 2021 2:11 pm

And here we go!
10-Team Dynasty League QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/WR/FLEX (23 man rosters + 2 IR + 2 Taxi, non-PPR scoring)
QB: Herbert, Goff
RB: Bijan, JT, Saquon, J.Cook, K.Hunt, Foreman, Z.White, McKinnon, S.Tucker
WR: G.Wilson, Olave, Jeudy, Pittman, J.Williams, OBJ, N. Brown, JuJu,
TE: Chig, Conklin, L. Thomas
Taxi: M.Mims, Ro. Johnson
'24: (4) 1sts, 2nd, (2) 3rds, 4th
'25: (2) 1sts, 2nd, 3rd, 4th

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Re: Unvaccinated Player List

Postby Ice » Wed Aug 11, 2021 2:13 pm

YouMightDieTryin wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 2:11 pm And here we go!
That was far from political.....Just saying Not all information has to be politics based.
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Re: Unvaccinated Player List

Postby grandmabetty » Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:30 pm

The real question here is what do the league rules say about players who have already had a confirmed case of covid and are again exposed. Whether or not the person is immune is irrelevant. If the NFL doesn't let them get on the field that's what will effect fantasy football

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Re: Unvaccinated Player List

Postby Csl312 » Thu Aug 12, 2021 6:10 pm

grandmabetty wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:30 pm The real question here is what do the league rules say about players who have already had a confirmed case of covid and are again exposed. Whether or not the person is immune is irrelevant. If the NFL doesn't let them get on the field that's what will effect fantasy football
As far as I can tell past infection is not considered equivalent to vaccination for nfl protocol purposes. From what I have seen out there from researchers immunity is more durable from vaccination than from infection with the virus. This article has a pretty good summary https://www.jhsph.edu/covid-19/article ... ction.html

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Re: Unvaccinated Player List

Postby abloom » Thu Aug 12, 2021 7:32 pm

grandmabetty wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:30 pm The real question here is what do the league rules say about players who have already had a confirmed case of covid and are again exposed. Whether or not the person is immune is irrelevant. If the NFL doesn't let them get on the field that's what will effect fantasy football
Whether or not the player was previously infected or vaccinated, if they test positive they are required to isolate. The difference is that unvaccinated players who are deemed close contacts due to contact tracing are also required to isolate while those who have been vaccinated are not (i believe).
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, Fields, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens, wilson
T: Kelce, Goedert, Thomas, woods
D: cle, nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson, Browning, Rudolph, Zappe
R: Swift, Walker, Dobbins, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen, Nuk, Tre tucker, C Samuel,
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Team #4 3rd
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Team #5 4th
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Re: Unvaccinated Player List

Postby Jrblaha » Fri Aug 13, 2021 7:23 am

I made this thread because there’s a billion factors that come into play when determining risk/reward of players. It’s possible this vac/unvaccinated won’t matter, but in the chance that it does, or creates new player values, I’m always opt in learn more info/ versus less. Understanding how the league will handle things also (could) matters. Good stuff from some of you, keep it coming.
12 team. PPR. QB pass td = 6
Starters: QB(1) FLEX (RB/WR/TE)(2) RB(2) WR(3) TE(1)

QB: AR, DJones
RB: Gibby, Charb, KMiller, Akers
WR: Chase, Lamb, G Wilson, Tank Dell, Burks, Mimsy, Tutu, W Robinson, Tucker, Wicks, RBell
TE: DNjoku, Hunter Henry

Draft Picks: 2024: 1.2, 1.5, 1.11. 2025: 1st Round (2) 2nd Round (1), 2026: 1st Round (1) 2nd Round (2)

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Re: Unvaccinated Player List

Postby M-Dub » Fri Sep 03, 2021 11:12 pm

I think at this point, regardless of where anyone stands personally on vaccinations, it seems pretty apparent that being unvaccinated is a liability for fantasy football purposes.

I guess we can add Crowder to the list?
Both are 12-team 1QB PPR dynasties

🦬PRIME🦬
QB: Hurts, Howell
RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Cooper, Lockett, Flowers, Chark, Collins, Hollins, Tillman, Tolbert
TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
Taxi: Willis, Z. White, M. Mims, T. Palmer

Hull Awaits
$450 cap, 60 contract years

QB: Lawrence $5/3, Richardson $5/5, Minshew $1/0, Jones $1/0, Heinicke $1/0, Tyrod $1/0
RB: Achane $4/4, Warren $2/4, Roschon $7/5, Dillon $4/1, Hubbard $2/1, Kelley $1/0
WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
TE: Thomas $1/0, Hill $1/0, Parham $1/0


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