TE value in Superflex TE Premium league? 1.5ppr

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TE value in Superflex TE Premium league? 1.5ppr

Postby Crouchy » Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:52 am

How much do we bump up the value of a TE in a superflex league where receptions are 1.5ppr but Tight Ends get 1.5ppr

How would you compare elite receivers such as Adams, Hill, Metcalf and Jefferson vs Kelce and Kittle.

If you are picking around the turn or early second in a startup and the top tier of QBs have been picked, would you pick Kelce and Kittle before any of these receivers, or still load up on the elite receivers first?

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Re: TE value in Superflex TE Premium league? 1.5ppr

Postby Overachiever77 » Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:52 am

I’m still loading up on the WRs there. Then I’d try to grab upside TE player s later. If I went TE there, I’d go Kittle over Kielce.
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Re: TE value in Superflex TE Premium league? 1.5ppr

Postby dynastyninja » Tue Feb 09, 2021 6:23 am

I haven't fully studied your league rules, but in general, I wouldn't even consider a WR in the first 5+ rounds. QB, RB, and TE are way too hard in 2QB/TE+. You can get plenty of receivers after the 4th-5th round. Focus on stockpiling the tough positions.

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Re: TE value in Superflex TE Premium league? 1.5ppr

Postby Mjvb5 » Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:53 am

dynastyninja wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 6:23 am I haven't fully studied your league rules, but in general, I wouldn't even consider a WR in the first 5+ rounds. QB, RB, and TE are way too hard in 2QB/TE+. You can get plenty of receivers after the 4th-5th round. Focus on stockpiling the tough positions.
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Whats the realistic difference in team contribution between say lamb and Moore or mclaurin

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Re: TE value in Superflex TE Premium league? 1.5ppr

Postby Crouchy » Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:02 am

Interesting about WR but makes sense in terms of scarcity. In this league you start 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1 TE, 1 superflex and 2 flex, so I guess that makes it even more so that you can leave WR a bit?

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Re: TE value in Superflex TE Premium league? 1.5ppr

Postby briank » Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:07 am

Crouchy wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:52 am How much do we bump up the value of a TE in a superflex league where receptions are 1.5ppr but Tight Ends get 1.5ppr

How would you compare elite receivers such as Adams, Hill, Metcalf and Jefferson vs Kelce and Kittle.

If you are picking around the turn or early second in a startup and the top tier of QBs have been picked, would you pick Kelce and Kittle before any of these receivers, or still load up on the elite receivers first?
I'm guessing that's a typo? How much do WR/RB get for receptions?
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 9
QB Allen/Tubisky/Lock
RB Mixon/Harris/Etienne
WR DJ Moore
TE Kelce/Irv
2022 1.06/1.09
2023 3x 1st

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Ryan
RB CMC/Zeke/Mixon/Sanders
WR Evans/Godwin/Robinson/Golladay/Thielen/Lockett/Fuller
TE Kittle/Waller/L. Thomas

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Brady
RB CMC
WR Adams/Hill/Diggs/AJ Brown/Aiyuk/Woods/R. Moore
TE Kelce/Kittle/Njoku
2x 2023 1sts

12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Herbert/Tua/Lawrence/Fields
RB Harris/Etienne
WR Jefferson/Deebo/Lamb/DSmith/Sutton/Juedy/Kirk/E. Moore/R. Moore
TE Kittle/Pitts/Waller/Fant/Njoku
2022 1.01/1.12/2.02

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Re: TE value in Superflex TE Premium league? 1.5ppr

Postby Crouchy » Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:22 am

yeah sorry. full ppr with 1.5 ppr for TE, so tight ends get a 0.5 bonus.

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Re: TE value in Superflex TE Premium league? 1.5ppr

Postby dynastyninja » Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:19 am

Mjvb5 wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:53 am
dynastyninja wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 6:23 am I haven't fully studied your league rules, but in general, I wouldn't even consider a WR in the first 5+ rounds. QB, RB, and TE are way too hard in 2QB/TE+. You can get plenty of receivers after the 4th-5th round. Focus on stockpiling the tough positions.
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Whats the realistic difference in team contribution between say lamb and Moore or mclaurin
Precisely. I was in a startup last year where there were a million reliable receivers in rounds 6-10.

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Re: TE value in Superflex TE Premium league? 1.5ppr

Postby briank » Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:20 am

Crouchy wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:22 am yeah sorry. full ppr with 1.5 ppr for TE, so tight ends get a 0.5 bonus.
Honestly, I wouldn't treat it any different than a normal league. I always prioritize getting a top TE regardless, especially in dynasty. An extra .5 doesn't really make them more value compared to other positions. All TE get the same boost. It might separate the best ones further from the pack, but it's not significant to me.
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 9
QB Allen/Tubisky/Lock
RB Mixon/Harris/Etienne
WR DJ Moore
TE Kelce/Irv
2022 1.06/1.09
2023 3x 1st

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Ryan
RB CMC/Zeke/Mixon/Sanders
WR Evans/Godwin/Robinson/Golladay/Thielen/Lockett/Fuller
TE Kittle/Waller/L. Thomas

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Brady
RB CMC
WR Adams/Hill/Diggs/AJ Brown/Aiyuk/Woods/R. Moore
TE Kelce/Kittle/Njoku
2x 2023 1sts

12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Herbert/Tua/Lawrence/Fields
RB Harris/Etienne
WR Jefferson/Deebo/Lamb/DSmith/Sutton/Juedy/Kirk/E. Moore/R. Moore
TE Kittle/Pitts/Waller/Fant/Njoku
2022 1.01/1.12/2.02

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Re: TE value in Superflex TE Premium league? 1.5ppr

Postby killer_of_giants » Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:35 am

briank wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:20 am
Crouchy wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:22 am yeah sorry. full ppr with 1.5 ppr for TE, so tight ends get a 0.5 bonus.
Honestly, I wouldn't treat it any different than a normal league. I always prioritize getting a top TE regardless, especially in dynasty. An extra .5 doesn't really make them more value compared to other positions. All TE get the same boost. It might separate the best ones further from the pack, but it's not significant to me.
how about no premium, but start 2TEs?

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Re: TE value in Superflex TE Premium league? 1.5ppr

Postby CGW » Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:50 am

killer_of_giants wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:35 am
briank wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:20 am
Crouchy wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:22 am yeah sorry. full ppr with 1.5 ppr for TE, so tight ends get a 0.5 bonus.
Honestly, I wouldn't treat it any different than a normal league. I always prioritize getting a top TE regardless, especially in dynasty. An extra .5 doesn't really make them more value compared to other positions. All TE get the same boost. It might separate the best ones further from the pack, but it's not significant to me.
how about no premium, but start 2TEs?
That adds alot more value to TEs.

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Re: TE value in Superflex TE Premium league? 1.5ppr

Postby zaner75 » Tue Feb 09, 2021 12:27 pm

Kelce and Kittle are clearly above the pack at TE. Add in the premium and they score in the WR1-6 range. With them being the only 2 TE capable of scoring at that rate, you have a definite advantage taking either and a lower tier WR than a top WR and a lower tier TE.
Maybe target Waller in round 3/4 but after that, the 1.5 premium has a negligible effect at bumping TE over WR/RB for a flex spot.

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Re: TE value in Superflex TE Premium league? 1.5ppr

Postby briank » Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:41 pm

killer_of_giants wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:35 am
briank wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:20 am
Crouchy wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:22 am yeah sorry. full ppr with 1.5 ppr for TE, so tight ends get a 0.5 bonus.
Honestly, I wouldn't treat it any different than a normal league. I always prioritize getting a top TE regardless, especially in dynasty. An extra .5 doesn't really make them more value compared to other positions. All TE get the same boost. It might separate the best ones further from the pack, but it's not significant to me.
how about no premium, but start 2TEs?
If you must start 2, then I view that as a massive premium and the top TEs have 1st round startup value.
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 9
QB Allen/Tubisky/Lock
RB Mixon/Harris/Etienne
WR DJ Moore
TE Kelce/Irv
2022 1.06/1.09
2023 3x 1st

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Ryan
RB CMC/Zeke/Mixon/Sanders
WR Evans/Godwin/Robinson/Golladay/Thielen/Lockett/Fuller
TE Kittle/Waller/L. Thomas

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Brady
RB CMC
WR Adams/Hill/Diggs/AJ Brown/Aiyuk/Woods/R. Moore
TE Kelce/Kittle/Njoku
2x 2023 1sts

12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Herbert/Tua/Lawrence/Fields
RB Harris/Etienne
WR Jefferson/Deebo/Lamb/DSmith/Sutton/Juedy/Kirk/E. Moore/R. Moore
TE Kittle/Pitts/Waller/Fant/Njoku
2022 1.01/1.12/2.02

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Re: TE value in Superflex TE Premium league? 1.5ppr

Postby briank » Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:42 pm

zaner75 wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 12:27 pm Kelce and Kittle are clearly above the pack at TE. Add in the premium and they score in the WR1-6 range. With them being the only 2 TE capable of scoring at that rate, you have a definite advantage taking either and a lower tier WR than a top WR and a lower tier TE.
Maybe target Waller in round 3/4 but after that, the 1.5 premium has a negligible effect at bumping TE over WR/RB for a flex spot.
Waller is right there with Kittle and Kelce for me. People don't seem to realize how good he was this year.
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 9
QB Allen/Tubisky/Lock
RB Mixon/Harris/Etienne
WR DJ Moore
TE Kelce/Irv
2022 1.06/1.09
2023 3x 1st

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Ryan
RB CMC/Zeke/Mixon/Sanders
WR Evans/Godwin/Robinson/Golladay/Thielen/Lockett/Fuller
TE Kittle/Waller/L. Thomas

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Brady
RB CMC
WR Adams/Hill/Diggs/AJ Brown/Aiyuk/Woods/R. Moore
TE Kelce/Kittle/Njoku
2x 2023 1sts

12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Herbert/Tua/Lawrence/Fields
RB Harris/Etienne
WR Jefferson/Deebo/Lamb/DSmith/Sutton/Juedy/Kirk/E. Moore/R. Moore
TE Kittle/Pitts/Waller/Fant/Njoku
2022 1.01/1.12/2.02

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Re: TE value in Superflex TE Premium league? 1.5ppr

Postby briank » Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:45 pm

If it's must start 2 with the premium, and Kelce/Kittle are both there at the turn, I would strongly consider taking both of them. That would give you a massive advantage over your league mates IMO.
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 9
QB Allen/Tubisky/Lock
RB Mixon/Harris/Etienne
WR DJ Moore
TE Kelce/Irv
2022 1.06/1.09
2023 3x 1st

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Ryan
RB CMC/Zeke/Mixon/Sanders
WR Evans/Godwin/Robinson/Golladay/Thielen/Lockett/Fuller
TE Kittle/Waller/L. Thomas

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Brady
RB CMC
WR Adams/Hill/Diggs/AJ Brown/Aiyuk/Woods/R. Moore
TE Kelce/Kittle/Njoku
2x 2023 1sts

12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Herbert/Tua/Lawrence/Fields
RB Harris/Etienne
WR Jefferson/Deebo/Lamb/DSmith/Sutton/Juedy/Kirk/E. Moore/R. Moore
TE Kittle/Pitts/Waller/Fant/Njoku
2022 1.01/1.12/2.02


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