So rumors going around that Panthers might be going after Joe Borrow.
The already got his OC from LSU, how much more would this increase his value?
An offense with; CMC, DJ Moore, Samuel ect.
Borrow value in SF, if Panthers breaks the bank
Borrow value in SF, if Panthers breaks the bank
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Re: Borrow value in SF, if Panthers breaks the bank
Not happening, Cincinnati has zero interest (rightfully so) in reading the 1st overall pick.
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Re: Borrow value in SF, if Panthers breaks the bank
It's not happening, and even if it did it wouldn't change his value at all for me, he's already really good no matter where he goes.
Edit: I am already willing to take him in a startup and bet on his upside over every QB in the league except:
Mahomes
Lamar
Watson
Wilson
Kyler
Wentz
Edit: I am already willing to take him in a startup and bet on his upside over every QB in the league except:
Mahomes
Lamar
Watson
Wilson
Kyler
Wentz
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Re: Borrow value in SF, if Panthers breaks the bank
I don't think I would prefer Burrow on the Panthers over the Bengals. I would say mostly neutral difference in landing spots.
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Re: Borrow value in SF, if Panthers breaks the bank
I'm basically there except I might be convinced to take him over Kyler but I would add Allen to the list, I wouldn't trade Allen for the 1.01.bjd5211 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:15 pm It's not happening, and even if it did it wouldn't change his value at all for me, he's already really good no matter where he goes.
Edit: I am already willing to take him in a startup and bet on his upside over every QB in the league except:
Mahomes
Lamar
Watson
Wilson
Kyler
Wentz
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Re: Borrow value in SF, if Panthers breaks the bank
As an owner of Moore & Mixon ... this is like asking which of my two kids I love more ... this thread should be deleted immediately to protect my sanity.
Re: Borrow value in SF, if Panthers breaks the bank
Agreed hahahaForza_Azzurri wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:21 pm As an owner of Moore & Mixon ... this is like asking which of my two kids I love more ... this thread should be deleted immediately to protect my sanity.
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Re: Borrow value in SF, if Panthers breaks the bank
I would. Allen isn't a very good QB. His rushing is great, but I won't value a sub par passer over a top prospect like Burrow. If his rushing drops at all, he's not a productive QB. It's really all that's keeping him afloat in FF.AussieMate wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:05 pmI'm basically there except I might be convinced to take him over Kyler but I would add Allen to the list, I wouldn't trade Allen for the 1.01.bjd5211 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:15 pm It's not happening, and even if it did it wouldn't change his value at all for me, he's already really good no matter where he goes.
Edit: I am already willing to take him in a startup and bet on his upside over every QB in the league except:
Mahomes
Lamar
Watson
Wilson
Kyler
Wentz
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Re: Borrow value in SF, if Panthers breaks the bank
I like Allen a lot, and he's probably top 10 for me in fantasy, but I would take Burrow over him without 2nd thought. The only guy I left off my list that I might waffle on taking over Burrow is Dak, but I've just never been a big believer in Dak, and think Burrow could be one of the best QBs in the league in a few years.
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Re: Borrow value in SF, if Panthers breaks the bank
I don't think Burrow going to Carolina makes a difference. Sure, Joe Brady is there, but I don't think he's dependent on being in Brady's offense to be really good.
Ultimate, the Bengals have already committed to taking Burrow #1.
Ultimate, the Bengals have already committed to taking Burrow #1.
Re: Borrow value in SF, if Panthers breaks the bank
The only team I see being able to make a strong enough offer to sway the Bengals is Miami, and even then I don't think the 2 sides agree. Would Miami be willing to trade all 3 of their 1st rounders this year, plus their 1 next year? I doubt it, but I think that's about what it would recquire to get Cincy to move off that pick.
Re: Borrow value in SF, if Panthers breaks the bank
In what world would cincy demand 4 1sts for moving down 4 spots ? Thats unheard offbjd5211 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:19 am The only team I see being able to make a strong enough offer to sway the Bengals is Miami, and even then I don't think the 2 sides agree. Would Miami be willing to trade all 3 of their 1st rounders this year, plus their 1 next year? I doubt it, but I think that's about what it would recquire to get Cincy to move off that pick.
Team 1 : 1QB 2RB 3 WR 1TE 1Flex 1K 1TM 2 IR 12 Keepers
QB: Carson Wentz, P. Mahomes
RB: A. Jones, MGIII, Dobbins, L. Bell, Ingram, J Williams & Gaskin
WR: D. Hopkins, J. Jones, K. Allen, J Crowder, Humpries & Agolor
TE: E. Engram, Trey Burton, V Davis & J. Doyle
Team 2: 1QB 1 SF 3RB 5WR 2TE 2FLEX DEF 26 Keepers 2019 Champ 2020 third place
QB: J. Allen Wentz Watson D. Lock.
RB: Barkley Zeke CEH J. Robinson D. Freeman Penny
WR: M. Thomas Cooper Godwin Juju J. Washington Renfrow, Jeudy, R. Moore TreQuan, P. Williams
TE: Waller Engram OJH & Everett
DEF: Pats & Browns
Team 3: 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 1FLEX DEF K
QB: Wilson Wentz Tannehill Brees Haskins Foles
RB: CMC Zeke Miles CEH AP J. Jackson B. Scott
WR: Evans Adams Landry Metcalf E. Sanders Lazard
TE: Engram Hurts Ebron Herndon
QB: Carson Wentz, P. Mahomes
RB: A. Jones, MGIII, Dobbins, L. Bell, Ingram, J Williams & Gaskin
WR: D. Hopkins, J. Jones, K. Allen, J Crowder, Humpries & Agolor
TE: E. Engram, Trey Burton, V Davis & J. Doyle
Team 2: 1QB 1 SF 3RB 5WR 2TE 2FLEX DEF 26 Keepers 2019 Champ 2020 third place
QB: J. Allen Wentz Watson D. Lock.
RB: Barkley Zeke CEH J. Robinson D. Freeman Penny
WR: M. Thomas Cooper Godwin Juju J. Washington Renfrow, Jeudy, R. Moore TreQuan, P. Williams
TE: Waller Engram OJH & Everett
DEF: Pats & Browns
Team 3: 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 1FLEX DEF K
QB: Wilson Wentz Tannehill Brees Haskins Foles
RB: CMC Zeke Miles CEH AP J. Jackson B. Scott
WR: Evans Adams Landry Metcalf E. Sanders Lazard
TE: Engram Hurts Ebron Herndon
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