Garoppolo vs. Murray

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Garoppolo vs Murray

Garoppolo
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35%
Murray
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65%
 
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Garoppolo vs. Murray

Postby snuffalupicus » Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:52 am

I found it interesting that Murray has a higher ADP then Garoppolo by almost 3 rounds. Garoppolo has done well in a small sample and Murray hasn’t played at the NFL level yet.

What’s your opinion on this ranking? Do you think this is just a bit of rookie fever? Who would you rather have? Who do you think will have the better career between the two?
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Re: Garoppolo vs. Murray

Postby Blueboy » Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:35 am

Has Garoppolo done that well in a small sample size (for fantasy)? He's had seven starts as the 49ers QB and scored 20+ points three times. His ceiling might be a low-end QB1, which certainly isn't bad, but I can understand why folk would chase Murray's ceiling instead.

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Re: Garoppolo vs. Murray

Postby snuffalupicus » Sat Jun 29, 2019 11:12 am

Not a bad start for getting used to a new offense. Garoppolo did well in his 3 starts in NE too. I understand Murray has a potentially high ceiling with his running, but that also comes with potentially shorter career due to injury risk.
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Re: Garoppolo vs. Murray

Postby moishetreats » Sat Jun 29, 2019 2:43 pm

In a one-QB league, I'm chasing the ceiling. JG's likely isn't high enough. Though I'm not sold on Murray, his ceiling is higher.

SF/2QB, though, and JG easily for me. No way that I'm gambling JG's high floor and high-enough ceiling to chase a QB whose range of outcomes is as wide as Murray's.
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Re: Garoppolo vs. Murray

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Mon Jul 01, 2019 7:21 am

I'd say Garoppolo >= Murray. I wouldn't add much to either one to get the other.
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Re: Garoppolo vs. Murray

Postby Servo » Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:40 am

I'd rather take the chance on Murray tbh, when Nick Mullens puts up similar stats as a Joe Blow out of USM....is Jimmy G all that everyone wants him to be? Dunno.

On paper, Kingsbury is going to implement a pretty QB friendly offense...that alone has me optimistic on Murray at the minimum.

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Re: Garoppolo vs. Murray

Postby Krypto_King » Thu Jul 04, 2019 8:17 pm

snuffalupicus wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2019 11:12 am Not a bad start for getting used to a new offense. Garoppolo did well in his 3 starts in NE too. I understand Murray has a potentially high ceiling with his running, but that also comes with potentially shorter career due to injury risk.
which one is the injury risk?

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Re: Garoppolo vs. Murray

Postby CD_23 » Sat Jul 06, 2019 8:57 am

moishetreats wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2019 2:43 pm In a one-QB league, I'm chasing the ceiling. JG's likely isn't high enough. Though I'm not sold on Murray, his ceiling is higher.

SF/2QB, though, and JG easily for me. No way that I'm gambling JG's high floor and high-enough ceiling to chase a QB whose range of outcomes is as wide as Murray's.
Well said. I had the chance to acquire either as my QB2 in SFlex and went Jimmy

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Re: Garoppolo vs. Murray

Postby Spongehack » Sat Jul 06, 2019 10:41 am

I wouldn't trade Murray for Jimmy G.
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Re: Garoppolo vs. Murray

Postby DynastyDegenerate » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:12 pm

If I owned Jimmy G I would be very happy to swap him for Kyler.

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Re: Garoppolo vs. Murray

Postby lanemitchell96 » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:02 am

During a startup I tried trading Jimmy + for Murray and it was declined
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Re: Garoppolo vs. Murray

Postby GridironGuerilla » Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:28 pm

I agree with the upside take. Similar value IMO, and to be fair, Jiimmy really hasn't done much to solidify his value. I go with the upside and youth here.
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Re: Garoppolo vs. Murray

Postby FuzzySignificance » Thu Aug 01, 2019 4:26 am

garoppolo was bad last year. like, really bad.
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Re: Garoppolo vs. Murray

Postby DynastyDegenerate » Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:54 pm

If Garroppolo isn't good or gets hurt again this year he's probably gone with the way his contract is structured. I've heard some talk of Mullins passing him, though not sure I remember where or what the credibility of it was. Just the existence of the narrative is a bit concerning, with trade value being mostly based on perception.

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Re: Garoppolo vs. Murray

Postby Servo » Thu Aug 01, 2019 3:24 pm

Mullens averaged 284.63 yards per game which equals 4560 yards over 16 games, that would have been 7th in the NFL.

Mullens had 13 TD's in 8 games, 26 over 16 games, that would have been 12th.

It's one of a couple of things:

- Mullens is good?
- JG's ceiling probably isn't that much higher than those stats above ^^
- Is JG truly good? I think SF could get out from JG's contract without a ton of pain after this season.
- Or are they both system QBs under Shanahan, but interesting to note that Shanahan didn't find Mullens. Denver's new OC did.

I'd rather roll the dice on Murray.


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