Tua vs Lawrence

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Tua vs Lawrence

Postby Pullo Vision » Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:39 am

How do these two college players compare? Who has the higher ceiling, and the firmer floor? How do they compare to recent prospects? Given how strong a number of people think next year's draft is for dynasty, where would you slot them? Are these two the only high quality prospects likely to come out next year?
14 tm ppr, 1Q, 2R, 3W, 1T, R/W/T
1 DT, 2 DE, 2 LB, 1 CB, 1 S, 1 flex
R Wilson, Brees
Zeke, D Freeman, Darwin Thompson, B Hill, A Morris, Jus Jackson, Yeldon, Ajayi, R Armstead, D Hilliard, Ogunbowale
Hopkins, Evans, R Anderson, Marvin Jones, Moncrief, A Wilson, D Cain, Conley, G Jennings
Kittle, Jimmy G, K Warring

IDP core- DT Kenny Clark; DEs Watt, Ngakoue; LBs David, K Mack
2020- 1, 1, 2, 2, 3
2021- 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4

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Re: Tua vs Lawrence

Postby Krypto_King » Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:50 am

Lawrence is class of 21 and I'd say he has the higher ceiling based on tools and frame. He was the best FR I can remember so I'd think he will be up there with Baker, Luck, Stafford, Cam, Bradford as the best prospects in the last 10-15 years. Some other big names for '20 - Fromm, Eason, Patterson, Herbert

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Re: Tua vs Lawrence

Postby tresskid84 » Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:06 am

Generation talent is a phrase that gets thrown around a lot, but Trevor Lawrence is an actual Generational talent. Tua looks like he could be a great qb, but talents like Lawrence are rare
DLF EBS Startup Draft, 16 tm PPR, Superflex (4pt pass td)
1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 SF, 2 Flex

QB: Cousins, Mariota, Dalton, Finley (R)
RB: Henry, Cohen, R Freeman, Ekeler, Love (R), Gaskin (R) Abdullah, Nall
WR: Woods, Sutton, Jeffery, Pettis, Snead, Richardson, C Coleman, K White, Gabriel, Amendola, Meredith, A Johnson (R)
TE: Kittle, Ertz, Henry
2020 Picks: 3-Thirds

16tm PPR, Superflex, TE prem, DEVY:
1 QB, 1 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 SF, 3 Flex
Draft is rookie and devy (only NFL draft-eligible players for the following year) combined

QB: Tagovailoa (DEVY), Grier, Costello (DEVY), R Finley, Rudolph, Sloter
RB: M Sanders, N Harris (DEVY), T Sermon (DEVY), J Adams, K Brooks (DEVY), K Whyte, T Homer, A Barnes
WR: Higgins (DEVY), J Reagor (DEVY), D Samuel, Isabella, Gallup, D Hamilton, T Wallace (DEVY), G Jennings, A Johnson, Quinn, T Vaughns (DEVY), Cantrell, E Hall, C Thompson, K Johnson
TE: Hockenson, Okwuegbunam (DEVY), C Wilson
2020 Picks: 5-Firsts, 1-Fourth

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Re: Tua vs Lawrence

Postby Indygator » Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:31 am

I'd take Lawrence over Tua any day and not even close. Lawrence is possibly the best prospect to come out since Peyton Manning.
QB: A. Rodgers, D. Watson, B. Mayfield
RB: L. Miller, D. Henry, C. Hyde, CJA, D. Foreman, D. Martin, D. Lewis, N. Hines, I. Smith
WR: D. Adams, D. Hopkins, S. Diggs, D. Thomas, J. Landry, M. Lee, R. Anderson, K. Cole, Q. Enunwa
TE: J. Graham, Njoku, G. Olsen, J. Smith,

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Re: Tua vs Lawrence

Postby Pullo Vision » Mon Apr 22, 2019 5:05 pm

I saw that championship game last year and Tua looked amazing. Thanks for clarifying for me he is nowhere near as good as Lawrence. Thanks for the list, Krypto. How should these QB prospects be tiered?- Tua, Fromm, Eason, Patterson, Herbert.
14 tm ppr, 1Q, 2R, 3W, 1T, R/W/T
1 DT, 2 DE, 2 LB, 1 CB, 1 S, 1 flex
R Wilson, Brees
Zeke, D Freeman, Darwin Thompson, B Hill, A Morris, Jus Jackson, Yeldon, Ajayi, R Armstead, D Hilliard, Ogunbowale
Hopkins, Evans, R Anderson, Marvin Jones, Moncrief, A Wilson, D Cain, Conley, G Jennings
Kittle, Jimmy G, K Warring

IDP core- DT Kenny Clark; DEs Watt, Ngakoue; LBs David, K Mack
2020- 1, 1, 2, 2, 3
2021- 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4

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Re: Tua vs Lawrence

Postby tresskid84 » Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:14 am

Pullo Vision wrote:
Mon Apr 22, 2019 5:05 pm
I saw that championship game last year and Tua looked amazing. Thanks for clarifying for me he is nowhere near as good as Lawrence. Thanks for the list, Krypto. How should these QB prospects be tiered?- Tua, Fromm, Eason, Patterson, Herbert.
I'm not Krypto, but I have them Tua, Herbert, Fromm, Eason, and Patterson.
DLF EBS Startup Draft, 16 tm PPR, Superflex (4pt pass td)
1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 SF, 2 Flex

QB: Cousins, Mariota, Dalton, Finley (R)
RB: Henry, Cohen, R Freeman, Ekeler, Love (R), Gaskin (R) Abdullah, Nall
WR: Woods, Sutton, Jeffery, Pettis, Snead, Richardson, C Coleman, K White, Gabriel, Amendola, Meredith, A Johnson (R)
TE: Kittle, Ertz, Henry
2020 Picks: 3-Thirds

16tm PPR, Superflex, TE prem, DEVY:
1 QB, 1 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 SF, 3 Flex
Draft is rookie and devy (only NFL draft-eligible players for the following year) combined

QB: Tagovailoa (DEVY), Grier, Costello (DEVY), R Finley, Rudolph, Sloter
RB: M Sanders, N Harris (DEVY), T Sermon (DEVY), J Adams, K Brooks (DEVY), K Whyte, T Homer, A Barnes
WR: Higgins (DEVY), J Reagor (DEVY), D Samuel, Isabella, Gallup, D Hamilton, T Wallace (DEVY), G Jennings, A Johnson, Quinn, T Vaughns (DEVY), Cantrell, E Hall, C Thompson, K Johnson
TE: Hockenson, Okwuegbunam (DEVY), C Wilson
2020 Picks: 5-Firsts, 1-Fourth

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Re: Tua vs Lawrence

Postby Pullo Vision » Wed May 01, 2019 5:04 pm

tresskid84 wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:14 am
Pullo Vision wrote:
Mon Apr 22, 2019 5:05 pm
I saw that championship game last year and Tua looked amazing. Thanks for clarifying for me he is nowhere near as good as Lawrence. Thanks for the list, Krypto. How should these QB prospects be tiered?- Tua, Fromm, Eason, Patterson, Herbert.
I'm not Krypto, but I have them Tua, Herbert, Fromm, Eason, and Patterson.
Thanks, tresskid!
14 tm ppr, 1Q, 2R, 3W, 1T, R/W/T
1 DT, 2 DE, 2 LB, 1 CB, 1 S, 1 flex
R Wilson, Brees
Zeke, D Freeman, Darwin Thompson, B Hill, A Morris, Jus Jackson, Yeldon, Ajayi, R Armstead, D Hilliard, Ogunbowale
Hopkins, Evans, R Anderson, Marvin Jones, Moncrief, A Wilson, D Cain, Conley, G Jennings
Kittle, Jimmy G, K Warring

IDP core- DT Kenny Clark; DEs Watt, Ngakoue; LBs David, K Mack
2020- 1, 1, 2, 2, 3
2021- 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4

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Re: Tua vs Lawrence

Postby Pullo Vision » Wed May 01, 2019 7:13 pm

Vegas odds list Tua most likely to go #1 overall next year, Fromm and Herbert IP next- https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... t-in-2020/
14 tm ppr, 1Q, 2R, 3W, 1T, R/W/T
1 DT, 2 DE, 2 LB, 1 CB, 1 S, 1 flex
R Wilson, Brees
Zeke, D Freeman, Darwin Thompson, B Hill, A Morris, Jus Jackson, Yeldon, Ajayi, R Armstead, D Hilliard, Ogunbowale
Hopkins, Evans, R Anderson, Marvin Jones, Moncrief, A Wilson, D Cain, Conley, G Jennings
Kittle, Jimmy G, K Warring

IDP core- DT Kenny Clark; DEs Watt, Ngakoue; LBs David, K Mack
2020- 1, 1, 2, 2, 3
2021- 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4

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Re: Tua vs Lawrence

Postby Smoking Guns » Wed May 01, 2019 8:01 pm

Lawrence much higher ceiling- true freshman lit it up last year, including the almighty Bama. Best prospect since Luck imo.

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Re: Tua vs Lawrence

Postby ehasz15 » Sat May 25, 2019 5:43 pm

Forgot about Fields!!!!!!!!! Just wait

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Re: Tua vs Lawrence

Postby Smoking Guns » Sat May 25, 2019 5:47 pm

Lawrence and it isn’t close for me- higher floor and ceiling, different classes though so you won’t have to make that decision - Lawrence still has two years and Tua is eligible next year

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Re: Tua vs Lawrence

Postby MoneyPumpkins » Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:17 am

In a superflex, would you give up Devante Adams for devy rights to Lawrence?
10 Team. 29 man roster, 0.5 PPR: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Def, 1 K
QB: J. Winston, J. Garoppolo, P Rivers, J Rosen
RB: S. Barkley, D. Cook, M. Breida, A. Jones, J. Kelly
WR: C. Davis, M. Williams, J. Brown, J. Gordon, C. Sutton, A. Miller, DJ Moore, J. Crowder, K. Coutee, M. Gallup, G. Allison, D. Moore, L. Treadwell, C. Meredith, C. Samuel
TE: G. Kittle, D. Njoku, D. Goedert
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Re: Tua vs Lawrence

Postby Lumps » Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:04 am

MoneyPumpkins wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:17 am
In a superflex, would you give up Devante Adams for devy rights to Lawrence?
Oof. That's a tough one. So much could go wrong for Lawrence before he's drafted as he had two more years. But it could basically be owning Peyton for his entire career in a SF.

It's easy to get caught up in the love but I think you still need something coming back to shop Adams.
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