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Derwin James Value

Postby Nflnz » Thu Apr 01, 2021 8:35 pm

In a 12 Team 1QB with IDP (6 Spots, 2 LB, 2 DL, 2DB) what would you pay for Derwin James in picks?
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12 Team 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex R/W/T
QB: Dak, Stafford, Tannehill, Levis
RB: Taylor, Mixon, Etienne, Hall, White
WR: Chase, Lamb, Puka, M Williams, JSN, Juju, R Moore
TE: Kelce, Hock, Mcbride
2024 1st, 2ndx2, 3rd, 4th, 5th

Team 2.
12 Team SF TE Prem
1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 4flex R/W/T, 1 SFlex Q/R/W/T
QB: A Rich, R Wilson, Geno, Zappe
RB: Roschon, Millar, Dobbins, Rivers
WR: London, Addison, Tank, M Wilson, Mingo, Tillman, Perry, Heath
TE: Kincaid, McBride, Gray
2024 1stx2, 2ndx2, 3rdx2, 4th, 5th

Team 3
12 Team SF TE Prem
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2flex R/W/T, 1 SFlex Q/R/W/T
QB: Hurts, Lawrence, Jimmy G, Young
RB: Etienne, Walker, CMC, Gainwell, Mattison, Gibson
WR: Higgins, Adams, London, Cooks, Hodgins, Landry, Doubs, Mims
TE: McBride, Okonkwo, Trautman, Bellinger
2024 1st, 2nd x2, 3rd x2, 4th, 5th

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Re: Derwin James Value

Postby krtbuckeye » Fri Apr 02, 2021 4:29 am

This is very dependent on IDP scoring, but I still view James as a top 2-3 DB as he does a bit of everything. I usually try to break down my IDP valuations in terms of how they scored relative to WRs, because the player pool vs starting/roster spots kind of shakes out to similar ratios generally for DBs (or other IDP position).

I’d put James right there behind Baker and Adams at DB though, so if those guys scored close to what elite WRs did, I’d say an early-mid 1st for James. If they scored more in the Flex range, then maybe a mid-late 2nd. It really does all depends on your Lagunes IDP scoring.
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10 Team SF, PPR, Roster: 33+2 IR+2 Taxi
Start: QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, SF, FLX (RB/WR), K, 2 DL, LB, 2 DB, 2 IDP FLX

**IDP scoring is TKL heavy (1.0 solo and asst), no QBH or TFL.**

QB: Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts
RB: Jahmyr Gibbs, D’Andre Swift, Jerome Ford, Khalil Herbert, Jaleel McLaughlin, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Isaiah Spiller, Chase Brown, Evan Hull (IR), Sean Tucker
WR: Amon-Ra St. Brown, DeVonta Smith, Tee Higgins, Jordan Addison, Jaxon Smith-Njigba, Josh Palmer, Demario Douglas, Alec Pierce, Michael Wilson, Jalin Hyatt, Kayshon Boutte (Taxi)
TE: Sam LaPorta, Trey McBride
K: Jake Elliott
DL: Danielle Hunter, Aiden Hutchinson, Jaelan Phillips (IR)
LB: Bobby Wagner, Jordyn Brooks, Logan Wilson, Ernest Jones
DB: Derwin James, Brian Branch

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Re: Derwin James Value

Postby FiremanEd » Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:22 am

In a 12 team league that only starts 2 DB, and given his recent injury history, the most I’m paying is a 3rd. Even then I’d probably prefer to use the capital elsewhere. I just don’t see a huge reason to invest in DB unless the scoring is very high and he provides a tangible edge (assuming he’s even healthy).

Edit: It being 1 QB boosts it a little bit, as I do all SF which adds later pick value, but still think a 3rd is all I’d jump at. That means I won’t get him, but not sure I want to jump to a 2nd unless I’m on the clock and know what I’m passing on. I prefer to maintain the flexibility within the draft.

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Re: Derwin James Value

Postby IR1 » Sun Apr 04, 2021 4:37 pm

I’m in a high scoring idp league, I moved him and a 2nd for Akers. I’d value James early/mid second, but I could see people going late first depending on the league
10Team PPR-QB/RB/WR/WR/TE/PK/flex-DT/DE/DE/LB/LB/LB/CB/CB/S/S/flex
QB- Herbert, Tua
RB- Barkley, Swift, Montgomery, Dobbins, Walker
WR-Adams, ARSB, JWilliams, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Kirk, Flowers
TE- Kelce, Goedert
PK
DT- Buckner, Simmons, QWilliams,
DE- Hunter, JBosa, Thibodeaux, JPHillips, Rousseau, Paye, Greenard
LB- Edmunds, Warner, E Kendricks, Wagner, De"Vondre Campbell, Asamoah, Sanders
CB- Moore, Howard, Reed
S- Dugger, Pitre, Thompson
IR Dobbins, Dulcich
Taxi- Kincaid, QJohnston

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Re: Derwin James Value

Postby saw061600 » Sun Apr 04, 2021 5:12 pm

You have to lower his value, just like you would any other player that hadn't played much for 2 years even if it's a high scoring IDP. Not paying more than a 4th for a DB that's been injured for 2 years.
10 TM No PPR or waiver 85RST
Herbert Fields Garoppolo Ridder
JT Barkley Etienne Ingram Charb CEH
Evans Aiyuk Dionte Jeudy London JWill GWils EMoore JMyers Mims Moorex2
Andrews Kinkaid Pits Freiermuth
NBosa Quinnen DJJones Clark F-Myers Taylor Graham
Darius Okereke Kendricks DCampbell DJones Baker Kiser Brooks
Adams Simmons Vaccaro Joseph

12 TM .5ppr 45 RST
Herbert Stroud Mayfield
JT Achane Kamara Ford Pacheco Jaleel
AJB DK Godwin Aiyuk Kirk ZJones RMoore Thornton
Hock F-muth
LWilliams Payne Reed Greenard
Bernard Kendricks Warner Baker Williams Tranquil
Budda McKinney Clark Wilson

1-2QB 2-4RB 3-5WR 1-3TE 11OFF/DEF
Herbert Stafford Brock Dobbs
Taylor Jacobs Mattison Kyren Jaleel Ford Bigsby
AJB Diggs Evans Kirk McLaurin Dionte Boyd Renfrow JuJu
Kelce Pitts Deguara
Hutchinson Rousseau Greenard Travon Demarcus
QWilliams EJones TBernard Dean ShaqT Kyzir
Amos Bates Peppers Murray Fitz Clark

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Re: Derwin James Value

Postby FiremanEd » Mon Apr 19, 2021 1:27 pm

Recently bought Derwin in a 30 team (2x player copy), start 2 S league with heavy tackle scoring for S. Paid Rapp + high. 3rd.


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