Randomly stumbled across this article- https://football.razzball.com/idp-draft ... er-edition. It argues that players with a high ratio of solo tackles per assist (like Perry Riley's 1.27 in 2012) have more repeatable/sustained value than a 7.33 (Derrick Johnson).
Has anyone heard of this? Has there been more research supporting or disproving it in the years since?
Tackle Ratio- Solo vs Assist
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Re: Tackle Ratio- Solo vs Assist
My only is issue is that stadium stat crews are responsible for keep tabs on this info. Check this article out: https://subscribers.footballguys.com/a ... stat-crewsPullo Vision wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:19 pm Randomly stumbled across this article- https://football.razzball.com/idp-draft ... er-edition. It argues that players with a high ratio of solo tackles per assist (like Perry Riley's 1.27 in 2012) have more repeatable/sustained value than a 7.33 (Derrick Johnson).
Has anyone heard of this? Has there been more research supporting or disproving it in the years since?
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Re: Tackle Ratio- Solo vs Assist
Thanks, this is great! The article I had made a passing mention of teams that have more and less tackles than average (Bills, Giants, Titans on the high end) but this goes into much, much greater detail.TB3falcons wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 10:01 pmMy only is issue is that stadium stat crews are responsible for keep tabs on this info. Check this article out: https://subscribers.footballguys.com/a ... stat-crewsPullo Vision wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:19 pm Randomly stumbled across this article- https://football.razzball.com/idp-draft ... er-edition. It argues that players with a high ratio of solo tackles per assist (like Perry Riley's 1.27 in 2012) have more repeatable/sustained value than a 7.33 (Derrick Johnson).
Has anyone heard of this? Has there been more research supporting or disproving it in the years since?
It'd be interesting to see how those results compare to offensive pace and total defensive snaps. Comparing those 2017 rankings to 2020 teams, I see a number that are run heavier offenses right now.
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Re: Tackle Ratio- Solo vs Assist
I'd like to know why it's "more sustainable" value?
I see no reason for it.
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Maybe sustainable wasnt the right term-
"If you want some next-level analysis, look for players with high-assisted tackle rates. Assist rates for defensive players are somewhat like BABIP for baseball players. They may be extremely high or low one year, but over the long run they are likely to regress to the mean. So players like Perry Riley with an assist rate of 1.27 (solos per assist) are likely to see some of those assists turn into twice-as-valuable solo tackles in 2013, while players like Derrick Johnson with an assist rate of 7.33 may see their point totals drop off."
I don't do fantasy baseball, but it almost sounds like the focus is what percentage of their total tackles are solo. A high solo percentage is a quirk, like a high catch total and low TD number. So, you bank on players whose assisted tackle percentage was higher than the average, with the expectation that those assistscould become solos in the future. You sell guys whose solo tackle percentage was high with the expectation that regresses.
"If you want some next-level analysis, look for players with high-assisted tackle rates. Assist rates for defensive players are somewhat like BABIP for baseball players. They may be extremely high or low one year, but over the long run they are likely to regress to the mean. So players like Perry Riley with an assist rate of 1.27 (solos per assist) are likely to see some of those assists turn into twice-as-valuable solo tackles in 2013, while players like Derrick Johnson with an assist rate of 7.33 may see their point totals drop off."
I don't do fantasy baseball, but it almost sounds like the focus is what percentage of their total tackles are solo. A high solo percentage is a quirk, like a high catch total and low TD number. So, you bank on players whose assisted tackle percentage was higher than the average, with the expectation that those assistscould become solos in the future. You sell guys whose solo tackle percentage was high with the expectation that regresses.
League #1- 14 tm ppr, 1Q, 2R, 3W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1K
1 DT, 2 DE, 2 LB, 1 CB, 1 S, 1 flex
League #2- 12 team PPR, 1Q, 1R, 2W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1 W/R/T, 1 Def
League #3- 12 tm PPR, 1Q, 0R (yes, ZERO RB) 3W, 1T, 2 R/W/T flex, 1 Def
1 DT, 2 DE, 2 LB, 1 CB, 1 S, 1 flex
League #2- 12 team PPR, 1Q, 1R, 2W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1 W/R/T, 1 Def
League #3- 12 tm PPR, 1Q, 0R (yes, ZERO RB) 3W, 1T, 2 R/W/T flex, 1 Def
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