Trade Winovich for a 2021 3?

[Easy Breesy]

Hey guys I’m sending a package of Rashaad Penny+Winovich for a 2021 2+3 what do you think?

I acquired Winovich for a 2021 4+7 earlier in the offseason

[Bronco Billy]

Hey guys I’m sending a package of Rashaad Penny+Winovich for a 2021 2+3 what do you think?

I acquired Winovich for a 2021 4+7 earlier in the offseason

Without knowing your scoring, starting, and roster requirements:

Sounds like you’re tired of waiting for Penny to produce. He flashed for a couple of games and then promptly wreaked his ACL plus additional knee ligament damage according to reports. You might get someone to nibble on his remaining potential.

Winovich looks like he’s going to amount to a FF depth DE, so I’d say if you can get your trade partner to bite on giving you a 2021 2nd & 3rd that you’ll have done pretty well. Don’t be surprised by a counteroffer or a flat out refusal - I think you’re getting the better end of the deal by a bit.

[Kcarr]

I would say penny still is on his own worth more than a 2021 3rd and winovich is worth right around a 2021 3rd. Unless I was just really wanting to move on from penny I wouldnt be looking at that offer seriously. I would probably sell chase for that on his own though

[Bronco Billy]

I would say penny still is on his own worth more than a 2021 3rd and winovich is worth right around a 2021 3rd. Unless I was just really wanting to move on from penny I wouldnt be looking at that offer seriously. I would probably sell chase for that on his own though

I’m curious to hear your projection for Winovich that you think he’s worth a 2021 3rd.

[lukkynumber13]

I will absolutely take the value, especially since it’s liquid, of the picks over the 2 guys who may be roster cloggers going forward.

[Kcarr]

Going by sig it looks like 16 teams and in would assume at least 10 defensive starters though that part isnt listed, just says full idp. Also my assumption with those posting on here unless specified is balanced enough scoring for idps to be close to offensive players in terms of scoring.

This means placing chase around the 40th rookie next year and that being a year out. This year in an exceptionally strong draft puts him with a few idps thrown in around the range of lamical perine, tyler johnson, and jalen hurts if you are looking at 1 qb rankings. Now if we discount that for being a year out and drop it another 10 spots this is valuing him within the range of quintez cephus and Darnell mooney and this is in an exceptionally deep class so this is setting the value level.

Now last year chase only played 500 or so snaps but had a sack about every 10th one. I think he should be able to improve on that. He was, by a quick search in one league, the 57th DE. If he can increase to just 750 snaps, typical DE2 range, his points should increase to mid DE2 levels just from the increased volume. That makes him a weekly starter which I would value right along with those offensive guys at least

[Bronco Billy]

Going by sig it looks like 16 teams and in would assume at least 10 defensive starters though that part isnt listed, just says full idp. Also my assumption with those posting on here unless specified is balanced enough scoring for idps to be close to offensive players in terms of scoring.

This means placing chase around the 40th rookie next year and that being a year out. This year in an exceptionally strong draft puts him with a few idps thrown in around the range of lamical perine, tyler johnson, and jalen hurts if you are looking at 1 qb rankings. Now if we discount that for being a year out and drop it another 10 spots this is valuing him within the range of quintez cephus and Darnell mooney and this is in an exceptionally deep class so this is setting the value level.

Now last year chase only played 500 or so snaps but had a sack about every 10th one. I think he should be able to improve on that. He was, by a quick search in one league, the 57th DE. If he can increase to just 750 snaps, typical DE2 range, his points should increase to mid DE2 levels just from the increased volume. That makes him a weekly starter which I would value right along with those offensive guys at least

750 snaps at DE? In Belichick’s D? This guy ain’t Trey Flowers. If he gets 450-475 snaps at DE (typical Belichick rotation for all but bonafide stud DEs) - and BTW, Winovich’s 500 snaps were combined DE/ST - he’ll be doing very well. Belichick loves to rotate his DL. And a sack every 10 snaps? Didn’t he have 5.5 sacks last year?

You look to be projecting at his absolute ceiling and maybe even beyond that. I’d be surprised if Winovich cracked DE40 give or take, and that would be a good year for him. IMO of course.

[Kcarr]

I meant every 100, missed a 0. typing on my phone. Good point on that including special teams though, if we only count defense it was one every 50. Also then he just needs to get to 450 defensive snaps to project out to those numbers, which doesn't seem out of the question, as it is what even you are saying he should expect, assuming he also maintains the special teams tackles and if he can push beyond that which I don't see as impossible, then I think he could be even more than that, but if he can just push up into that 7 or 8 sacks range, not out of the question for a guy who as a rookie got 5.5, that makes him pretty much a starter in a league that size and I would take that over those late round shot WRs