Dynasty League Football Forum

failblazer wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:27 am

Bronco Billy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 6:48 am

failblazer wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:58 am I swapped Kiser for Simmons straight up after week 2 for a team going nowhere this season. I snagged Kiser in round 10 of our rookie and FA draft so to flip him for a guy taken in the 2nd was a huge win. As you said, obviously there is worry when he has done so little early on but they have some solid guys in front of him so I guess the expectation of him being an immediate LB1 or LB2 were probably wishful thinking.

It’s not a win when the guy you traded away is outproducing the guy you got - in this case by a wide margin.

This draft capital mentality stops as soon as the guys put on the pads and accumulate stats. Then it’s all about talent, fit, and opportunity.

Kiser has all 3. Simmons is missing on at least two of those right now, and there’s no telling if it will ever change. How many times have we seen NFL teams accumulate multiple high 1st rounders on their rosters and continue to fail. Don’t be the Lions or Raiders of your FF league.

Honestly, I don't need him to produce right now. You're right, if I needed a guy to jam into my lineup for this season I'd have held Kiser but I am 1-4 and lucky to be doing that well. This team is a total rebuild that won't be competing until next year at the very earliest (and likely not until 2022). I'm not a Simmons guy to be honest but I'll take a gamble on his upside over Kiser who I think is an average player in a good situation. Littleton is a better player and has disappeared since leaving the Rams and Kiser could do the same if they don't resign him after next year.

I totally understand your point of not being blinded by draft stock because it absolutely not the be all and end all. Plenty of unheralded players do turn out to be very valuable in dynasty and especially in IDP but when I am building out a roster to compete in a year or two years out I want potential building blocks.

I just made a similar (if less extreme) example move, shipping out Jayon Brown and a 3rd (16 team) for Kenneth Murray and a 5th. To me, we know what Brown is and in a year or two years there's no guarantee he'll be relevant. I'll take my chances on a younger guy who could be a building block for the next 4-7 years.

Bronco Billy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:00 am


Good luck. IMO you’re underestimating Kizer and overestimating Simmons, but I understand your logic.

Space Cowboy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:18 am

Bronco Billy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:00 am


Good luck. IMO you’re underestimating Kizer and overestimating Simmons, but I understand your logic.

I was thinking the same. I never understand why someone will use 1.08 on Devin White when I can get Nat Gerry off the WW and get 80 if not 90% of the production.

Guys like Kiser is what IDP is all about.

saw061600 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:45 am Didn't feel like quoting it all, getting long. Simmons looks bad right now but sometimes you got to take an IDP risk with a higher pick. Grabbed Queen and I'm pretty happy right now where I did. He's 36th in league scoring in a SPFLX, ahead of guys like D Henry and Kelce. Flip side, he's only 30 points ahead of Kyzir White so I suppose that 5 pts a game may not be worth it; it's a hard call either way.

Forza_Azzurri wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:09 pm So why, exactly, has Simmons been sitting on the bench all season?

failblazer wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 4:48 am

Forza_Azzurri wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:09 pm So why, exactly, has Simmons been sitting on the bench all season?

He is a very young and came into the league behind two established and productive starters. People expecting him to come in week 1 and light up the stat sheet were being unrealistic. Very nice to see a performance like this from him though. Certainly gives his owners some confidence that he can be the difference maker we all hoped for.

Forza_Azzurri wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:09 pm So why, exactly, has Simmons been sitting on the bench all season?

Space Cowboy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:07 pm

Forza_Azzurri wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:09 pm So why, exactly, has Simmons been sitting on the bench all season?

He whiffed on a tackle and then bit hard on an 80 yard Mostert TD pass. Week 1 right to the bench and he stayed for a while.