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LB Rookie Rankings - 2020

Postby lukkynumber13 » Thu May 07, 2020 8:08 pm

1. Isaiah Simmons - If Derwin James or Jamal Adams decided to play LB, here you go. You guys know the drill tho - let your leaguemates draft him at 6 or 8 or 10, while you scoop up a falling Henry Ruggs or Justin Jefferson, and then pick up this year's version of Cory Littleton off the wire :)
2. Patrick Queen is solidly ranked at #2, but notice I don't have him in a separate tier. He is the perfect LB for the modern NFL (gosh that's such a cliche now), and went to a fantastic organization that is DYING for talent and consistency at ILB. 100+ combined tackles in his rookie year, bet on that.
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3. Kenneth Murray's coverage limitations may limit him to being a 70-80% player, at least this year. And then when you factor in the maddening handling of off-ball LBs that we have seen from the Chargers the last several years, ugh... you should be drafting other positions in rookie drafts anyway ;)
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4. Willie Gay checks in here, as a supremely talented 2nd round pick who definitely has less-than-stellar LBs ahead of him on the depth chart. Some character concerns, for sure, and I doubt he sees the field in a starting capacity right away, but he could be an LB1 by season's end.
5. Jordyn Brooks was just the latest in a LONG line of hilariously crappy Seahawks 1st-round selections, but here we are - ans man, I'm puzzled. Is KJ Wright going to get benched? Will their 1st round rookie LB get benched?? Will KJW play SLB on early downs, and then supplant Brooks on the weak-side on passing-downs? Didn't they just draft 2 off-ball backers relatively early last year...? I don't think he will be a reliable fantasy starter until year 2, sadly.
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6. Logan Wilson was a 3rd rounder, but only slightly removed from having been listed as a 2nd-round pick, obviously. Point being, linebackers taken in the first 75 picks usually end up getting at least a SHOT to prove themselves as starting caliber players. I have never loved Germaine Pratt's game, but he does have a year in the system so he probably opens the year as one starter for Cincy; one of their vets (Josh Bynes being the favorite, Jordan Evans being the underdog) will probably man the other spot for a fair bit, but Wilson could very well earn a starting nod by 2021.
7. Zach Baun was the target of a trade up, always a good sign. He played a lot off the edge in college, but is expected to play off the ball for New Orleans. There is certainly opportunity there, next to Davis!
8. Jacob Phillips was probably overdrafted, but Kirksey/Schobert/Collins have left behind a gaping hole in Cleveland, so he's worth a dart throw at the end of your rookie draft if he's there.
BOTH TEAMS BELOW ARE 1QB

TEAM A - 12 teams (19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Brees, Tua, Wentz
COOK/JACOBS/MIXON, Dobbins, Swift, Hunt, Singletary, Bell, B Hill, Wilkins
NUK/HILL/GOLLADAY/K ALLEN, Diontae J, Hollywood, Ruggs, Pittman, Hilton, G Davis, Snead
KITTLE, Waller, Akins, H Bryant
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Not listing my IDP, but they matter as much as offense in this league. Joey Bosa, Buckner, Sweat, and Cam Jordan are my main studs.
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TEAM B - 32 teams, double copy - TEs get 1.5x bump in scoring
LAMAR, Cousins, Rivers, J Love
SAQUON/MIXON/CARSON, Dobbins, Lindsay, Mattison, Ingram, D Freeman, Clement
NUK/K ALLEN/JULIO/AROB, Evans, Thielen, DJ Moore, Lamb, Boyd, Coutee, Alshon
KITTLE/L Thomas, Ertz, Reed
Danielle Hunter, Aaron Donald, and Chris Jones are the cornerstones of my IDP squad.

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Re: LB Rookie Rankings - 2020

Postby LPN » Fri May 08, 2020 3:37 pm

My LBs are Jerome Baker, Fred Warner and Darius Leonard because ...of YOU man ! Love your work, looking forward to your ranking every year, thanks man !

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Re: LB Rookie Rankings - 2020

Postby DynastyDynasty » Fri May 08, 2020 6:13 pm

I'm excited by your breakdown of Gay. I was excited to get him at pick 5.11 in my rookie draft. Simmons, Murray & Queen all went in the 2nd round. I had a heck of a time picking between him and Chinn at S. Which one would you rather have? Did I do it right by picking Gay?
12 Team, PPR, TE Premium, IDP, 1RB, 1WR, 1TE, 3Flex, 1DL, 1LB, 1DB, 1Flex
QB-Mahomes,Ryan,Roeth
RB-McCaffrey,Kamara,J.Wilson,J.Williams,Hines,Perine
WR-Hill,Ridley,Golladay,Godwin,Boyd,Coutee,Hardman,Patrick,Campbell
TE-Kittle,Reed,Dwelley,Akins,Butler
DL-Hunter,Ogbah,Graham,Q.Williams
LB-Wagner,David,Thompson,W.Gay,Morrow,D.Davis,Reddick,Mosley
DB-Curl,Ryan,Clark,Phillips
2021 picks-1.03,2.03,2.05,3.07,4.07,5.03
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Re: LB Rookie Rankings - 2020

Postby UnsafeAtAnySpd » Fri May 08, 2020 7:57 pm

Good stuff! Appreciate the writeup!

In my deepest/most complex IDP league (32 team single copy, salary cap/contracts, balanced scoring, etc), I was pumped to have Queen drop to me at 1.23 (after grabbing Reagor at 1.13). I then took Kinlaw at 2.13 (just missed Epenesa going two spots earlier [start 2 DE]).

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Re: LB Rookie Rankings - 2020

Postby lukkynumber13 » Fri May 08, 2020 10:35 pm

DynastyDynasty wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 6:13 pm
I'm excited by your breakdown of Gay. I was excited to get him at pick 5.11 in my rookie draft. Simmons, Murray & Queen all went in the 2nd round. I had a heck of a time picking between him and Chinn at S. Which one would you rather have? Did I do it right by picking Gay?
I would much prefer Chinn there, but don’t lose sleep over it.
BOTH TEAMS BELOW ARE 1QB

TEAM A - 12 teams (19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Brees, Tua, Wentz
COOK/JACOBS/MIXON, Dobbins, Swift, Hunt, Singletary, Bell, B Hill, Wilkins
NUK/HILL/GOLLADAY/K ALLEN, Diontae J, Hollywood, Ruggs, Pittman, Hilton, G Davis, Snead
KITTLE, Waller, Akins, H Bryant
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Not listing my IDP, but they matter as much as offense in this league. Joey Bosa, Buckner, Sweat, and Cam Jordan are my main studs.
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TEAM B - 32 teams, double copy - TEs get 1.5x bump in scoring
LAMAR, Cousins, Rivers, J Love
SAQUON/MIXON/CARSON, Dobbins, Lindsay, Mattison, Ingram, D Freeman, Clement
NUK/K ALLEN/JULIO/AROB, Evans, Thielen, DJ Moore, Lamb, Boyd, Coutee, Alshon
KITTLE/L Thomas, Ertz, Reed
Danielle Hunter, Aaron Donald, and Chris Jones are the cornerstones of my IDP squad.

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Re: LB Rookie Rankings - 2020

Postby DynastyDynasty » Fri May 08, 2020 10:49 pm

lukkynumber13 wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 10:35 pm
DynastyDynasty wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 6:13 pm
I'm excited by your breakdown of Gay. I was excited to get him at pick 5.11 in my rookie draft. Simmons, Murray & Queen all went in the 2nd round. I had a heck of a time picking between him and Chinn at S. Which one would you rather have? Did I do it right by picking Gay?
I would much prefer Chinn there, but don’t lose sleep over it.
Thanks for the reply. I won't lose sleep, but it's good to get feedback so I can learn.
I was 5.11 and I was hoping Chinn would make it past 5.12 so I could scoop him off our waivers, but sure enough, he went 5.12 to a savvy owner.
Live and learn. Thanks, Lukky!
12 Team, PPR, TE Premium, IDP, 1RB, 1WR, 1TE, 3Flex, 1DL, 1LB, 1DB, 1Flex
QB-Mahomes,Ryan,Roeth
RB-McCaffrey,Kamara,J.Wilson,J.Williams,Hines,Perine
WR-Hill,Ridley,Golladay,Godwin,Boyd,Coutee,Hardman,Patrick,Campbell
TE-Kittle,Reed,Dwelley,Akins,Butler
DL-Hunter,Ogbah,Graham,Q.Williams
LB-Wagner,David,Thompson,W.Gay,Morrow,D.Davis,Reddick,Mosley
DB-Curl,Ryan,Clark,Phillips
2021 picks-1.03,2.03,2.05,3.07,4.07,5.03
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Re: LB Rookie Rankings - 2020

Postby Shankopotamus » Sat May 09, 2020 3:12 am

Lucky, appreciate your rankings. You're the only reason my IDP is decent at best. Hadn't seen you in a while and was hoping you'd post these.
12 Team Super-Flex Dynasty (2019 & 2020 Runner-Up) :wall:
1 QB, 3 RB, 4 WR, Flex, SF, 2 TE, IDP

QB- Jared Goff, Justin Herbert, Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, Andy Dalton, Jordan Love
RB- Aaron Jones, Nick Chubb, Cam Akers, Phillip Lindsey, James White, Kerryon Johnson, Gus Edwards, A.J. Dillon, Jamychal Hasty, Salvon Ahmed, Adrian Peterson
WR- Mike Evans, DJ Moore, Allen Robinson, Robert Woods, DK Metcalf, Hollywood Brown, Marvin Jones, Dante Pettis, Marquez Callaway
TE-Mark Andrews, Noah Fant, Hayden Hurst, Jace Sternberger, Donald Parham
DL-Chris Jones, Deforest Buckner, Jonathon Allen, Akeim Hicks, Montez Sweat
LB Zach Cunningham, Jayon Brown, Rashaan Evans, Devin White, Devin Bush, Troy Reeder
DB-John Johnson, Adrian Phillips, Taylor Rapp, Josh Jones, Jeremy Chinn, Ronnie Harrison
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Re: LB Rookie Rankings - 2020

Postby saw061600 » Sat May 09, 2020 6:52 am

Great information as always.
10 TM No PPR or waiver 85RST
Herbert JimmyG Dalton Winston
Barkley Chubb JT RoJo Sony Bell
Evans ARob Aiyuk Dionte Jeudy Boyd OBJ GDavis MWill
Kelce Andrews Jonnu Hooper
Watt Williams Richardson Taylor Graham
Kendricks DCampbell DJones Baker Kiser Brooks
Adams Simmons Vaccaro Joseph

12 TM .5ppr 45 RST
Dak Herbert
JT JRob Mixon Carson Henderson Penny DEvans Duke
DK Godwin ARob Boyd Cooks Thielen Shepard BEdwards DGabriel
Kelce Tonyan
Hunter Barnett Clark Crosby G-Matur
Kendricks Warner Perryman Milano Campbell Baker Jack
Budda Neal Clark Karl

1-2QB 2-4RB 3-4WR 1-3TE
QB Herbert Murray Stafford
RB Taylor Jacobs Gaskin Hines Penny Mack Hill Peterson
WR Ridley Jefferson Golladay JuJu Diggs Reagor Chark Boyd
TE Kittle Kelce AOk
DL Gholston Fowler Barnett Lawson Hall Kinlaw
LB Queen Thompson Jewell Nwosu Kwon Kyzir
DB Peppers Fitz Clark Sorensen KJoseph

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Re: LB Rookie Rankings - 2020

Postby TUDL » Sat May 09, 2020 8:36 am

DynastyDynasty wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 6:13 pm
I'm excited by your breakdown of Gay. I was excited to get him at pick 5.11 in my rookie draft. Simmons, Murray & Queen all went in the 2nd round. I had a heck of a time picking between him and Chinn at S. Which one would you rather have? Did I do it right by picking Gay?
I would much prefer Chinn there, but don’t lose sleep over it.
What about Murray vs Chinn Lukky, and by how much? As you’ll see below LB’s & DB’s are very close until Top 40 in our 10 team league, so I rarely need to dip into the 40’s for players.

LB: D Jone, R Smith, D Tranquill (TS)
DB: J Adams, J Peppers, K Willis (TS)

10 Team League, Starts 2 DB’s & 2 LB’s, max 4 of each on roster.
Scoring: Top 10 Avg & falloff % from that.
Pos Avg: Top 10 // Top 20 // Top 30 // Top 40
LB: 2.08 // 85% // 77% // 68%
DB: 2.11 // 86% // 80% // 76%

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Re: LB Rookie Rankings - 2020

Postby lukkynumber13 » Sat May 09, 2020 8:41 am

Honestly if you’re only starting 2 of each, I would look hard at offense over either guy on defense.

But to answer the question, I’ll take Chinn just in case he turns into the next Landon Collins/Jon Cyprien, etc
BOTH TEAMS BELOW ARE 1QB

TEAM A - 12 teams (19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Brees, Tua, Wentz
COOK/JACOBS/MIXON, Dobbins, Swift, Hunt, Singletary, Bell, B Hill, Wilkins
NUK/HILL/GOLLADAY/K ALLEN, Diontae J, Hollywood, Ruggs, Pittman, Hilton, G Davis, Snead
KITTLE, Waller, Akins, H Bryant
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Not listing my IDP, but they matter as much as offense in this league. Joey Bosa, Buckner, Sweat, and Cam Jordan are my main studs.
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TEAM B - 32 teams, double copy - TEs get 1.5x bump in scoring
LAMAR, Cousins, Rivers, J Love
SAQUON/MIXON/CARSON, Dobbins, Lindsay, Mattison, Ingram, D Freeman, Clement
NUK/K ALLEN/JULIO/AROB, Evans, Thielen, DJ Moore, Lamb, Boyd, Coutee, Alshon
KITTLE/L Thomas, Ertz, Reed
Danielle Hunter, Aaron Donald, and Chris Jones are the cornerstones of my IDP squad.

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Re: LB Rookie Rankings - 2020

Postby TUDL » Sat May 09, 2020 9:11 am

Thank you Lukky. Always enjoy your rankings & comments.

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Re: LB Rookie Rankings - 2020

Postby bruiser » Sun May 10, 2020 10:42 am

Great job, lukky. I have an owner in my 16-tm league that took 5 of your top 6 (passed on K. Murray). He'll do well with them, but also passed on solid offensive value picks.

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Re: LB Rookie Rankings - 2020

Postby lawilt » Sun May 10, 2020 11:26 am

Thoughts on Uche?

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Re: LB Rookie Rankings - 2020

Postby lukkynumber13 » Sun May 10, 2020 11:45 am

lawilt wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 11:26 am
Thoughts on Uche?
I gave him a mention in my DL post, because on the very small chance that he gets a DE designation, that’s the only way I’m drafting him.

Definitely a watch list guy tho, as he may be the Van Noy replacement.
BOTH TEAMS BELOW ARE 1QB

TEAM A - 12 teams (19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Brees, Tua, Wentz
COOK/JACOBS/MIXON, Dobbins, Swift, Hunt, Singletary, Bell, B Hill, Wilkins
NUK/HILL/GOLLADAY/K ALLEN, Diontae J, Hollywood, Ruggs, Pittman, Hilton, G Davis, Snead
KITTLE, Waller, Akins, H Bryant
-
Not listing my IDP, but they matter as much as offense in this league. Joey Bosa, Buckner, Sweat, and Cam Jordan are my main studs.
///
///
TEAM B - 32 teams, double copy - TEs get 1.5x bump in scoring
LAMAR, Cousins, Rivers, J Love
SAQUON/MIXON/CARSON, Dobbins, Lindsay, Mattison, Ingram, D Freeman, Clement
NUK/K ALLEN/JULIO/AROB, Evans, Thielen, DJ Moore, Lamb, Boyd, Coutee, Alshon
KITTLE/L Thomas, Ertz, Reed
Danielle Hunter, Aaron Donald, and Chris Jones are the cornerstones of my IDP squad.

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Re: LB Rookie Rankings - 2020

Postby lawilt » Sun May 10, 2020 2:13 pm

I liked him for the Van Noy role, I figured he has value in round 5 or 6 for deep leagues


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