2019 ROOKIE Defensive Line rankings

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Re: 2019 ROOKIE Defensive Line rankings

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TEAM A - 12 teams (2018 champ, 2017 R/U)
BREES, Jimmy G, Rivers, Dalton
COOK/JACOBS/GURLEY, Shady, Gio, Gallman, Walton, Ollison, D Washington, Scarlett, Foreman, Ware, Rodney A
NUK/HILL/EVANS/GOLLADAY/K ALLEN, Edelman, Alshon, Sammy, P Campbell, JJAW, Wims, Dez
KITTLE, OJ Howard, Herndon, Eifert
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Not listing my IDP, but they matter as much as offense in this league
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TEAM B - 32 teams, double copy - TEs get slight bump in scoring (1st year league, tanking this year to build through 2020 draft)
DARNOLD, Carr, Rosen, Eli, Tyrod
KAMARA/MIXON, Hines, L Miller
NUK/EVANS/OBJ/K ALLEN/HOLLYWOOD, Coutee, Latimer
ANDREWS/NJOKU, Ian Thomas, James O
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Danielle Hunter, Ngakoue, and then a bunch of maybes for IDP

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Re: 2019 ROOKIE Defensive Line rankings

Postby lukkynumber13 » Thu May 02, 2019 3:40 pm

vtejrep wrote:
Thu May 02, 2019 2:04 pm
where are you drafting Bosa in Dynasty Rookie drafts? He is worth a pick in the late 1st?
If he falls past 5, I will be trying very hard to trade back into the First and snag him.
TEAM A - 12 teams (2018 champ, 2017 R/U)
BREES, Jimmy G, Rivers, Dalton
COOK/JACOBS/GURLEY, Shady, Gio, Gallman, Walton, Ollison, D Washington, Scarlett, Foreman, Ware, Rodney A
NUK/HILL/EVANS/GOLLADAY/K ALLEN, Edelman, Alshon, Sammy, P Campbell, JJAW, Wims, Dez
KITTLE, OJ Howard, Herndon, Eifert
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Not listing my IDP, but they matter as much as offense in this league
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TEAM B - 32 teams, double copy - TEs get slight bump in scoring (1st year league, tanking this year to build through 2020 draft)
DARNOLD, Carr, Rosen, Eli, Tyrod
KAMARA/MIXON, Hines, L Miller
NUK/EVANS/OBJ/K ALLEN/HOLLYWOOD, Coutee, Latimer
ANDREWS/NJOKU, Ian Thomas, James O
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Danielle Hunter, Ngakoue, and then a bunch of maybes for IDP

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Re: 2019 ROOKIE Defensive Line rankings

Postby millworkguy » Thu May 02, 2019 4:13 pm

vtejrep wrote:
Thu May 02, 2019 2:04 pm
where are you drafting Bosa in Dynasty Rookie drafts? He is worth a pick in the late 1st?

Depends on your scoring, but yes I'll be taking him in my leagues if he is there at 7/8
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Re: 2019 ROOKIE Defensive Line rankings

Postby yonald » Fri May 03, 2019 5:14 pm

Where would you rank Sweat? He’s listed as a DE on fantrax so that may increase his value?
12 team. .5 PPR, 6pt passing, 6 pt rushing/receiving. 25 man roster.
Keepers offense - 1 QB 1 RB 1 WR 1 TE 1 FLEX
defense - 3 of any position
rookies - 3 of any position

QB: Watson, Winston
RB: Cook, Ingram, Hyde, R Freeman
WR: Nuke, Tyreke Hill, T Williams, Shepard, Hardman, Renfrow, Harry, Erickson
TE: Waller, Everett

DE: D Law, Heyward
LB: D Jones, Martinez, Roquan Smith, Onwuasor
DB: Bell, Simmonds, R Jones

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Re: 2019 ROOKIE Defensive Line rankings

Postby lukkynumber13 » Sat May 04, 2019 12:08 am

yonald wrote:
Fri May 03, 2019 5:14 pm
Where would you rank Sweat? He’s listed as a DE on fantrax so that may increase his value?
Probably right behind Oliver he is a DE on your site
TEAM A - 12 teams (2018 champ, 2017 R/U)
BREES, Jimmy G, Rivers, Dalton
COOK/JACOBS/GURLEY, Shady, Gio, Gallman, Walton, Ollison, D Washington, Scarlett, Foreman, Ware, Rodney A
NUK/HILL/EVANS/GOLLADAY/K ALLEN, Edelman, Alshon, Sammy, P Campbell, JJAW, Wims, Dez
KITTLE, OJ Howard, Herndon, Eifert
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Not listing my IDP, but they matter as much as offense in this league
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TEAM B - 32 teams, double copy - TEs get slight bump in scoring (1st year league, tanking this year to build through 2020 draft)
DARNOLD, Carr, Rosen, Eli, Tyrod
KAMARA/MIXON, Hines, L Miller
NUK/EVANS/OBJ/K ALLEN/HOLLYWOOD, Coutee, Latimer
ANDREWS/NJOKU, Ian Thomas, James O
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Danielle Hunter, Ngakoue, and then a bunch of maybes for IDP

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Re: 2019 ROOKIE Defensive Line rankings

Postby Kcarr » Sun May 05, 2019 8:50 am

In a couple of leagues I have had rookie drafts in, both 14 team superflex with pretty good scoring for DEs though one waters it down some allowing all edge players a DE designation, he went 2.04 and 1.13. In both I was throwing offers out to try to move back in and take him, in the one I had 1.06 and took haskins and didn't have another pick until 2.09, the other was a co-OP league and I already had Aaron Donald, Myles Garrett qnd Frank Clark and had been unable to move any of them, despite them scoring 275, 192, and 186 points, making them the number 17, 75, and 89 overall scorers, just no market there to get a late 1st or early 2nd, so at 1.09 we took fant and i couldn't get back in to take bosa. In that one it would have been tough though as even if he hits I dont know that I could have moved him for the pick I would have taken him at. I am determined to get him somewhere though and am considering him mid 1st in an upcoming draft in a contract league and if not there he will join his brother, hunter, and cam Jordan on my dline in the 1st round of a 12 team start 2 DE league
4th and long: ppr, 10 team, qb, rb, rb, wr, wr, wr, flex, flex, te, k, dl, dl, lb, lb, db, db, dflex, dflex

QB: Kirk Cousins Tyrod Taylor, Jared Goff
RB: Melvin Gordon, Ezekiel Elliot, Theo Riddick, D'Onta Foreman, James Conner, Jamal Williams
WR: Alshon Jeffrey, Amari Cooper, Sammy Watkins, Keenan Allen, Jordan Matthews, Cole Beasley, Robby Anderson, Corey Davis, Breshad Perriman, Eli Rogers
TE: Eric Ebron, , David Njoku, Jack Doyle
K: Will Lutz
DL: Frank Clark, Danielle Hunter
LB: Luke Kuechley, Bobby Wagner, Jordan Hicks, Mark Barron, Darron Lee
DB: Sean Davis, Morgan Burnett,

IR: Clayton Geathers, Quincy Enunwa, Raekwon McMillan

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Re: 2019 ROOKIE Defensive Line rankings

Postby Papa Stephano » Mon May 06, 2019 8:00 am

lukkynumber13 wrote:
Thu May 02, 2019 3:40 pm
vtejrep wrote:
Thu May 02, 2019 2:04 pm
where are you drafting Bosa in Dynasty Rookie drafts? He is worth a pick in the late 1st?
If he falls past 5, I will be trying very hard to trade back into the First and snag him.
I just drafted him at 1.06 in a very balanced scoring 16 team league. When I took him the 1.07 & 1.08 owners said he was their pick.
12 Team, Salary Cap & Contact, IDP, 53 Man Roster
QB - Mayfield, Tanahill, Jackson
RB - Bell, Ajayi, Guice, Cohen, Hines
WR - Thielen, Kupp, Kirk, M. Williams
TE - Ebron, Graham
DT - D. Harrison, Ogunjobi
DE - C. Jones, D. Lawrence, Pierre-Paul
LB - V. Miller, J. Brown, J. Davis
CB - Poole, S. Griffin, J. Alexander
S - J. Johnson, Joyer, T.J. McDonald
Draft Picks: 2-2nd's, 3rd, 4th, 5th

12 Team, 18 Man Roster, 4 Man Taxi
QB - Big Ben
RB - Kamara, , A. Jones, Cohen, Yeldon
WR - Hill, M. Thomas, Kupp, Tate, Coleman, T. Taylor, D. Moore
TE - Everett
TAXI - L. Jackson, Chark, Tre'Quan Smith, St. Brown
Draft Picks: 2nd, 4th

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Re: 2019 ROOKIE Defensive Line rankings

Postby FiremanEd » Tue May 07, 2019 1:12 pm

Lucky, where did you read the Jags May be switching to 3-4? Is it credible?

Looking at Josh Allen at a very near pick and just saw that comment. He’s LB now, but I assumed he would go to DL. Designation will impact my decision.

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Re: 2019 ROOKIE Defensive Line rankings

Postby Space Cowboy » Tue May 07, 2019 1:18 pm

I've seen some good DLineman in the later rounds, still going through the fifth round but some good names I've come across.....

Khalen Saunders
Dremont Jones
Shareef Miller
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Zach Allen

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Re: 2019 ROOKIE Defensive Line rankings

Postby Space Cowboy » Tue May 07, 2019 1:19 pm

FiremanEd wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 1:12 pm
Lucky, where did you read the Jags May be switching to 3-4? Is it credible?

Looking at Josh Allen at a very near pick and just saw that comment. He’s LB now, but I assumed he would go to DL. Designation will impact my decision.
I doubt it, there was no coordinator change and their D has been fine. No need to fix what isnt broken, especially just because a rookie is added.

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Re: 2019 ROOKIE Defensive Line rankings

Postby lukkynumber13 » Tue May 07, 2019 1:27 pm

FiremanEd wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 1:12 pm
Lucky, where did you read the Jags May be switching to 3-4? Is it credible?

Looking at Josh Allen at a very near pick and just saw that comment. He’s LB now, but I assumed he would go to DL. Designation will impact my decision.
Just speculation from Jax media websites, no idea how credible the articles are, but it was enough to make me pause.
TEAM A - 12 teams (2018 champ, 2017 R/U)
BREES, Jimmy G, Rivers, Dalton
COOK/JACOBS/GURLEY, Shady, Gio, Gallman, Walton, Ollison, D Washington, Scarlett, Foreman, Ware, Rodney A
NUK/HILL/EVANS/GOLLADAY/K ALLEN, Edelman, Alshon, Sammy, P Campbell, JJAW, Wims, Dez
KITTLE, OJ Howard, Herndon, Eifert
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Not listing my IDP, but they matter as much as offense in this league
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TEAM B - 32 teams, double copy - TEs get slight bump in scoring (1st year league, tanking this year to build through 2020 draft)
DARNOLD, Carr, Rosen, Eli, Tyrod
KAMARA/MIXON, Hines, L Miller
NUK/EVANS/OBJ/K ALLEN/HOLLYWOOD, Coutee, Latimer
ANDREWS/NJOKU, Ian Thomas, James O
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Danielle Hunter, Ngakoue, and then a bunch of maybes for IDP

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Re: 2019 ROOKIE Defensive Line rankings

Postby Lumps » Wed May 08, 2019 11:19 am

lukkynumber13 wrote:
Thu May 02, 2019 3:40 pm
vtejrep wrote:
Thu May 02, 2019 2:04 pm
where are you drafting Bosa in Dynasty Rookie drafts? He is worth a pick in the late 1st?
If he falls past 5, I will be trying very hard to trade back into the First and snag him.
Just started up the 6th round and I'm eying adding another DE since it looks like that is where the most talent is left. I blew the team up right before the draft, so I'm going the young route. 16 team league that can start up to 3 DEs: 2 DE with a DL flex spot.

So far I've drafted Bosa and Burns, having Carl Nassib and Arden Key for youth and some other schmoes. I think what is left is:

DE: Zach Allen, Anthony Nelson and on down
DT: If this is even a consideration.... Lawrence, Hill..


Feels like Nelson has some opportunity now with JPP.
If the AZ experiment pans out, Allen could have lots of chances for sacks. Is he someone that the best we can hope for is AZ Calais? Lots of tackles... a couple sacks?
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Re: 2019 ROOKIE Defensive Line rankings

Postby lukkynumber13 » Wed May 08, 2019 11:28 am

Zach Allen is a somewhat high floor, very low ceiling type of guy. MAYBE he can be Derek Wolfe, Manny Ogbah, etc

Anthony Nelson tested like a freak athlete. I’d gamble on him.
TEAM A - 12 teams (2018 champ, 2017 R/U)
BREES, Jimmy G, Rivers, Dalton
COOK/JACOBS/GURLEY, Shady, Gio, Gallman, Walton, Ollison, D Washington, Scarlett, Foreman, Ware, Rodney A
NUK/HILL/EVANS/GOLLADAY/K ALLEN, Edelman, Alshon, Sammy, P Campbell, JJAW, Wims, Dez
KITTLE, OJ Howard, Herndon, Eifert
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Not listing my IDP, but they matter as much as offense in this league
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TEAM B - 32 teams, double copy - TEs get slight bump in scoring (1st year league, tanking this year to build through 2020 draft)
DARNOLD, Carr, Rosen, Eli, Tyrod
KAMARA/MIXON, Hines, L Miller
NUK/EVANS/OBJ/K ALLEN/HOLLYWOOD, Coutee, Latimer
ANDREWS/NJOKU, Ian Thomas, James O
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Danielle Hunter, Ngakoue, and then a bunch of maybes for IDP

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Re: 2019 ROOKIE Defensive Line rankings

Postby Space Cowboy » Wed May 08, 2019 11:47 am

Allen reminds me a little but of Ionodias on the Redskins. Big body with some underrated wiggle and relentless fight. Moves east and west well too.

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Re: 2019 ROOKIE Defensive Line rankings

Postby problemsolver » Sat May 11, 2019 5:10 am

I'm in a 12 team draft that is nearing its end and Josh Allen and Brian Burns went at 4.03 abd 6.06 respectively. That seems low to me on both of them. Its a MFL league with some savvy owners ( I think) so that LB designation seems to be scaring people off. I admit i was one I had them both in my crosshairs earlier in the draft and couldn't pull the trigger


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