2019 ROOKIE Defensive Line rankings

General discussion and team advice concerning IDP Leagues.
User avatar
lukkynumber13
GOAT
GOAT
Posts: 11220
Joined: Fri May 20, 2016 2:41 pm

2019 ROOKIE Defensive Line rankings

Postby lukkynumber13 » Wed May 01, 2019 12:48 pm

1. Nick Bosa (he’s already my DL9 in dynasty) - I’ve heard some say he’s a better pure prospect than his big brother. Even if he never hits that ceiling, he looks to be a consistent DL1 for the next few years, maybe like a Carlos Dunlap or Cameron Jordan.

2. Josh Allen - his floor is what we have seen from Leonard Floyd, but his ceiling is Demarcus Lawrence (EDIT: I’m hearing scuttlebutt that Jax may be switching to a 3-4?? This is news to me. Who knows...)

3. Clelin Ferrell - I’ve bumped Ferrell ahead of Burns, mostly because of some concerns I have with Burns. I see Clelin Ferrell as a very SAFE prospect. He probably won’t be Cameron Jordan, but he might be what we have gotten from Trey Flowers.

4. Quinnen Williams - Big time disrupter. Perhaps a smaller Deforest Buckner?

5. Brian Burns - His big knock coming out was his weight. He played at a smaller size than Kelvin Benjamin, for instance. Granted, he’s a very good athlete, but guys that rely all on speed can get pushed around easily (Vic Beasley, other than his one magical statistical year). I don’t love his college tape. I’m worried he doesn’t have the polish to be a full time edge player. (EDIT: Hearing 3-4 talk with Carolina as well. Welp, looks like I need to be listening to more rumors...)

6. Christian Wilkins - I comp him to Jurrell Casey. Not super sexy, but a very good player that might have ceiling years of double digit sacks.

7. Ed Oliver - High floor, and theoretically a high ceiling, but his pass rush has yet to develop. A more powerful yet not quite as polished version of Jonathan Allen.

8. LJ Collier - Not a fan. Almost as much of a reach as the Hawks’ 2018 first round gamble, Rashad Penny. They’re hoping he can play the Michael Bennett “Big End” role, but he’s just not very good. Maybe he is Vinny Curry?

9. Chase Winovich - Drafted quite a bit later than all these other dudes, but he’s got a very high floor. His white comp has always been Clay Matthews, & that’s a good one. Definitely has opportunity to get snaps right away in NE’s barren Edge group.

10. Jerry Tillery - Some have comp’d him to Buckner, due to the size, but that’s pretty darn lofty. Still tho, he’s got a great shot to put up some nice stats inside that Chargers’ 4-3 D, with Bosa & Ingram beside him.

Jeffery Simmons is a fantastic stash.

Rashan Gary might be an OLB in Green Bay, might be a DE (in terms of MFL classification). Either way, he’s raw. Just a stash IMO.

Keep an eye on Trysten Hill, if playing in any sort of DT-premium league. He’s got a lot of oppurtunity in Dallas.
Last edited by lukkynumber13 on Wed May 01, 2019 10:49 pm, edited 2 times in total.
TEAM A - 12 teams (2018 champ, 2017 R/U)
BREES, Jimmy G, Rivers, Dalton
COOK/JACOBS/GURLEY, Shady, Gio, Gallman, Walton, Ollison, D Washington, Scarlett, Foreman, Ware, Rodney A
NUK/HILL/EVANS/GOLLADAY/K ALLEN, Edelman, Alshon, Sammy, P Campbell, JJAW, Wims, Dez
KITTLE, OJ Howard, Herndon, Eifert
-
Not listing my IDP, but they matter as much as offense in this league
///
///
TEAM B - 32 teams, double copy - TEs get slight bump in scoring (1st year league, tanking this year to build through 2020 draft)
DARNOLD, Carr, Rosen, Eli, Tyrod
KAMARA/MIXON, Hines, L Miller
NUK/EVANS/OBJ/K ALLEN/HOLLYWOOD, Coutee, Latimer
ANDREWS/NJOKU, Ian Thomas, James O
-
Danielle Hunter, Ngakoue, and then a bunch of maybes for IDP

jp4703
Role Player
Role Player
Posts: 431
Joined: Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:27 am

Re: 2019 ROOKIE Defensive Line rankings

Postby jp4703 » Wed May 01, 2019 1:02 pm

So I'm assuming you believe Jax will use Josh Allen as a DE and not LB?

So far MFL has him as a LB which is making it hard to judge. I'm about to hit the second round of my draft so I might have to see what my defensive options are.
16 team - 42rosters - 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2FLEX, 1PK, 3DE/DL, 2DB, 2LB, 1DFLEX
QB: D. Brees, M. Stafford.
RB: L. Bell, D. Cook, J. Conner, M. Sanders, A. Blue, J. Ajayi, A. Barnes.
WR: M. Thomas, A.J. Green, J. Jones, C. Godwin, Z. Jones, J. Reynolds, K. Kirkwood, J. Moore, J. Hurd, T. Benjamin.
TE: Z. Ertz, J. Smith, M. Andrews, D. Waller, J. Sternberger.
K: M. Badgley.
DB: L. Collins, J. Johnson, J. Tart, C. Geathers, M. Blair.
DL: C. Dunlap, D. Barnett, J. Casey, B. Graham, G. McCoy, J. Allen.
LB: T. Whitehead, J. Hicks, J. Collins, J. Brown, K. White, G. Avery, C. Barton, B. Cashman, J. Ryan, J. Tavai, Q. Williams.
Picks:
2020: 2, 4, 4, 5
2021: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

User avatar
lukkynumber13
GOAT
GOAT
Posts: 11220
Joined: Fri May 20, 2016 2:41 pm

Re: 2019 ROOKIE Defensive Line rankings

Postby lukkynumber13 » Wed May 01, 2019 1:12 pm

jp4703 wrote:
Wed May 01, 2019 1:02 pm
So I'm assuming you believe Jax will use Josh Allen as a DE and not LB?

So far MFL has him as a LB which is making it hard to judge. I'm about to hit the second round of my draft so I might have to see what my defensive options are.
He was projected to be a better fit as a 3-4 OLB rather than a hand-in-dirt DE in a 4-3, which is why he’s currently listed almost everywhere as a LB. But I do not expect him to play off the ball. He did play off the ball a bit in college, but that’s not why Jax took him 7 overall, at least not in my opinion.

Some risk tho.
TEAM A - 12 teams (2018 champ, 2017 R/U)
BREES, Jimmy G, Rivers, Dalton
COOK/JACOBS/GURLEY, Shady, Gio, Gallman, Walton, Ollison, D Washington, Scarlett, Foreman, Ware, Rodney A
NUK/HILL/EVANS/GOLLADAY/K ALLEN, Edelman, Alshon, Sammy, P Campbell, JJAW, Wims, Dez
KITTLE, OJ Howard, Herndon, Eifert
-
Not listing my IDP, but they matter as much as offense in this league
///
///
TEAM B - 32 teams, double copy - TEs get slight bump in scoring (1st year league, tanking this year to build through 2020 draft)
DARNOLD, Carr, Rosen, Eli, Tyrod
KAMARA/MIXON, Hines, L Miller
NUK/EVANS/OBJ/K ALLEN/HOLLYWOOD, Coutee, Latimer
ANDREWS/NJOKU, Ian Thomas, James O
-
Danielle Hunter, Ngakoue, and then a bunch of maybes for IDP

millworkguy
Starter
Starter
Posts: 515
Joined: Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:09 pm
Location: Right here

Re: 2019 ROOKIE Defensive Line rankings

Postby millworkguy » Wed May 01, 2019 2:15 pm

Thank you sir,
PPR IDP Contract Cap:
ConF (16 Team)
DAF (16 team)
DW2- Co-Commish (16 Team)

PPR IDP Salary Cap:
Hardcore - LAC (32 team)
T1 - Commish (12 team)
T2 - Commish (16 Team)

Online
User avatar
saw061600
Legend
Legend
Posts: 5482
Joined: Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:58 pm

Re: 2019 ROOKIE Defensive Line rankings

Postby saw061600 » Wed May 01, 2019 6:02 pm

Some are predicting Quiennen will do well, I assume well means top 24, even as DT in non DT premium leagues. You think that's true?
10 TM No PPR or waiver 85RST
Lamar Winston TruB Finley Mariota
Bell Chubb DFreeman Sony DMonty RFreeman RoJo Gio Hines Snell
Evans Cooper ARob Boyd Watkins Agholor NHarry MWill JJAW Isabella Keke AMiller
Kelce Andrews Jimmy Jonnu
Watt Ansah Williams Richardson Taylor Graham
Davis Collins Mosley Kendricks Bucannon DCampbell DJones DLee Compton
Adams Vaccaro Joseph Iloka McLeod Williams

12 TM .5ppr 45 RST
Dak Rivers Dalton Rudolph
Mixon DHenry Penny Shady Duke Ekeler Snell Armstead
Julio Cooks Cooper ARob DK Isabella Stills KeeSean Agholor Callaway
Kelce Andrews
Hunter Barnett Clark Burns
Williamson Warner Perryman Milano Campbell Baker ShaqT Jewell Kendricks
Budda JJohnson Thornhill Vaccaro

12TM .5PPR 45RST
Wilson Rivers Dalton
Freeman Henry AP JHow Ajayi Nyheim Ito Justice Snell Barnes Tvon
Cooks Amari ARob Landry Watkins Keke Samuel JJAW Isabella
Ertz Andrews Herndon
NBosa Garrett Barnett Clark Leo
Perryman Lee JBrown Milano Wright Baker Tavai Burks
Jones Geathers SWill Abram

User avatar
lukkynumber13
GOAT
GOAT
Posts: 11220
Joined: Fri May 20, 2016 2:41 pm

Re: 2019 ROOKIE Defensive Line rankings

Postby lukkynumber13 » Wed May 01, 2019 6:31 pm

saw061600 wrote:
Wed May 01, 2019 6:02 pm
Some are predicting Quiennen will do well, I assume well means top 24, even as DT in non DT premium leagues. You think that's true?
Yes, similar to Geno Atkins or Fletcher Cox only younger.
TEAM A - 12 teams (2018 champ, 2017 R/U)
BREES, Jimmy G, Rivers, Dalton
COOK/JACOBS/GURLEY, Shady, Gio, Gallman, Walton, Ollison, D Washington, Scarlett, Foreman, Ware, Rodney A
NUK/HILL/EVANS/GOLLADAY/K ALLEN, Edelman, Alshon, Sammy, P Campbell, JJAW, Wims, Dez
KITTLE, OJ Howard, Herndon, Eifert
-
Not listing my IDP, but they matter as much as offense in this league
///
///
TEAM B - 32 teams, double copy - TEs get slight bump in scoring (1st year league, tanking this year to build through 2020 draft)
DARNOLD, Carr, Rosen, Eli, Tyrod
KAMARA/MIXON, Hines, L Miller
NUK/EVANS/OBJ/K ALLEN/HOLLYWOOD, Coutee, Latimer
ANDREWS/NJOKU, Ian Thomas, James O
-
Danielle Hunter, Ngakoue, and then a bunch of maybes for IDP

TheBelgian
Practice Squad
Practice Squad
Posts: 122
Joined: Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:55 pm

Re: 2019 ROOKIE Defensive Line rankings

Postby TheBelgian » Wed May 01, 2019 7:09 pm

Thank you, Lukky. I drafted Darius Leonard last year after looking at your rankings a year ago. I've been waiting on these rankings since the draft ended.
Baltimore Ravens
32 Team Contract/Salary Cap w/ IDP -- 1 copy
Salary Cap (70M) -- Cap Space a little over 22M
Start: QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, FLEX -- 3DL, 3LB, 4DB 2FLEX -- 1K
2019 Roster
QB- Murray $3M, Minshew 230k
RB- Darrell Williams 400k, Myles Gaskin 400k
WR- Austin $1.5M, Switzer $520K, Kumerow $400k,
TE- Witten $4M, Seals-Jones 830k, Watson $965K, Schultz 400k
DL- McKinley $500K, Barnett $677K, Winovich 400k, Dareus $3.2M
LB- , Jacobs $430k, Tavai 553k, Hewitt 540k, Goode 700k, Reed $700k, Board $305k, O'Daniel $600k
DB-Jarrod Wilson 600k, Sendejo 700k, Willis 400k, Will Harris 230k, Ward 380k, Peterson $2.5M

User avatar
lukkynumber13
GOAT
GOAT
Posts: 11220
Joined: Fri May 20, 2016 2:41 pm

Re: 2019 ROOKIE Defensive Line rankings

Postby lukkynumber13 » Wed May 01, 2019 7:21 pm

TheBelgian wrote:
Wed May 01, 2019 7:09 pm
Thank you, Lukky. I drafted Darius Leonard last year after looking at your rankings a year ago. I've been waiting on these rankings since the draft ended.
Thank you for the kind words, and for your patience! I hope I can be of assistance.
TEAM A - 12 teams (2018 champ, 2017 R/U)
BREES, Jimmy G, Rivers, Dalton
COOK/JACOBS/GURLEY, Shady, Gio, Gallman, Walton, Ollison, D Washington, Scarlett, Foreman, Ware, Rodney A
NUK/HILL/EVANS/GOLLADAY/K ALLEN, Edelman, Alshon, Sammy, P Campbell, JJAW, Wims, Dez
KITTLE, OJ Howard, Herndon, Eifert
-
Not listing my IDP, but they matter as much as offense in this league
///
///
TEAM B - 32 teams, double copy - TEs get slight bump in scoring (1st year league, tanking this year to build through 2020 draft)
DARNOLD, Carr, Rosen, Eli, Tyrod
KAMARA/MIXON, Hines, L Miller
NUK/EVANS/OBJ/K ALLEN/HOLLYWOOD, Coutee, Latimer
ANDREWS/NJOKU, Ian Thomas, James O
-
Danielle Hunter, Ngakoue, and then a bunch of maybes for IDP

lukkyseven
Practice Squad
Practice Squad
Posts: 130
Joined: Mon May 14, 2018 10:29 am

Re: 2019 ROOKIE Defensive Line rankings

Postby lukkyseven » Thu May 02, 2019 4:22 am

Always appreciated OG Lukky ;).

My stash pick for the year (also a noted homer pick) is Jaylon Ferguson and I will be grabbing him late in as many drafts as I can this year.
Team 1: 16 team 53 man roster IDP/PPR - Year 2
Line up: 1 QB, 1-4 RB, 2-5 WR, 1-3 TE ( 9 total offense), 1-2 DT, 2-3 DE, 3-4 LB, 2-3 S, 2-3 CB (11 total IDP)
QB: Brees, Carr
RB: Zeke, Hyde, Mattison, L Miller, D Lewis,
WR: Julio, Tyrell Williams, Preston Williams, Marvin Jones, Beasley, AJG, Humphries
TE: Hooper, Andrews, Dissly
DT: Harrison, Wilkins, Oliver
DE: Josh Allen, Ingram, Ngakoue
LB: R Smith, Alexander, Cunningham, McKinney, Kendricks
S: Bates, Whitehead
CB: Poole, Coleman
2020 picks: 1sts, 2nd, 3rd, 4th

Team 2: 32 team 53 man IDP/PPR double copy league - 2023 super pot
QB: Wentz, Foles, Haskins
RB: Jacobs, Guice, Gus, Ito, Singletary, Love
WR: Harry, Metcalf, M Brown, Grant, Boykin, Harmon, Lee
TE: Fant, Hurst, Oliver
DT: Richardson
DE: J. Allen, Beasley
LB: Clowney, Onwuasor, Pratt, Tavai
S: Randall, Evans
CB: streaming

jp4703
Role Player
Role Player
Posts: 431
Joined: Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:27 am

Re: 2019 ROOKIE Defensive Line rankings

Postby jp4703 » Thu May 02, 2019 8:58 am

lukkynumber13 wrote:
Wed May 01, 2019 1:12 pm
jp4703 wrote:
Wed May 01, 2019 1:02 pm
So I'm assuming you believe Jax will use Josh Allen as a DE and not LB?

So far MFL has him as a LB which is making it hard to judge. I'm about to hit the second round of my draft so I might have to see what my defensive options are.
He was projected to be a better fit as a 3-4 OLB rather than a hand-in-dirt DE in a 4-3, which is why he’s currently listed almost everywhere as a LB. But I do not expect him to play off the ball. He did play off the ball a bit in college, but that’s not why Jax took him 7 overall, at least not in my opinion.

Some risk tho.
I hope so because I just drafted him 2.11(28th overall) in my draft. Seems like he was falling in our draft since everyone was worried about the LB tag. So I felt it was a high risk high reward pick since I can use some youth and help at DE.
16 team - 42rosters - 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2FLEX, 1PK, 3DE/DL, 2DB, 2LB, 1DFLEX
QB: D. Brees, M. Stafford.
RB: L. Bell, D. Cook, J. Conner, M. Sanders, A. Blue, J. Ajayi, A. Barnes.
WR: M. Thomas, A.J. Green, J. Jones, C. Godwin, Z. Jones, J. Reynolds, K. Kirkwood, J. Moore, J. Hurd, T. Benjamin.
TE: Z. Ertz, J. Smith, M. Andrews, D. Waller, J. Sternberger.
K: M. Badgley.
DB: L. Collins, J. Johnson, J. Tart, C. Geathers, M. Blair.
DL: C. Dunlap, D. Barnett, J. Casey, B. Graham, G. McCoy, J. Allen.
LB: T. Whitehead, J. Hicks, J. Collins, J. Brown, K. White, G. Avery, C. Barton, B. Cashman, J. Ryan, J. Tavai, Q. Williams.
Picks:
2020: 2, 4, 4, 5
2021: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

User avatar
Team Tacos
MVP
MVP
Posts: 2657
Joined: Wed Aug 08, 2012 7:30 am

Re: 2019 ROOKIE Defensive Line rankings

Postby Team Tacos » Thu May 02, 2019 12:08 pm

woah, two lukkys

User avatar
Space Cowboy
Degenerate
Degenerate
Posts: 7635
Joined: Thu May 26, 2011 1:47 pm

Re: 2019 ROOKIE Defensive Line rankings

Postby Space Cowboy » Thu May 02, 2019 12:10 pm

How about Sweat? Surprised he's not here.

User avatar
lukkynumber13
GOAT
GOAT
Posts: 11220
Joined: Fri May 20, 2016 2:41 pm

Re: 2019 ROOKIE Defensive Line rankings

Postby lukkynumber13 » Thu May 02, 2019 12:15 pm

Space Cowboy wrote:
Thu May 02, 2019 12:10 pm
How about Sweat? Surprised he's not here.
He’s almost sure to be an OLB, unless they decide to play him as a 3-4 end like Bosa in his rookie year.
TEAM A - 12 teams (2018 champ, 2017 R/U)
BREES, Jimmy G, Rivers, Dalton
COOK/JACOBS/GURLEY, Shady, Gio, Gallman, Walton, Ollison, D Washington, Scarlett, Foreman, Ware, Rodney A
NUK/HILL/EVANS/GOLLADAY/K ALLEN, Edelman, Alshon, Sammy, P Campbell, JJAW, Wims, Dez
KITTLE, OJ Howard, Herndon, Eifert
-
Not listing my IDP, but they matter as much as offense in this league
///
///
TEAM B - 32 teams, double copy - TEs get slight bump in scoring (1st year league, tanking this year to build through 2020 draft)
DARNOLD, Carr, Rosen, Eli, Tyrod
KAMARA/MIXON, Hines, L Miller
NUK/EVANS/OBJ/K ALLEN/HOLLYWOOD, Coutee, Latimer
ANDREWS/NJOKU, Ian Thomas, James O
-
Danielle Hunter, Ngakoue, and then a bunch of maybes for IDP

vtejrep
Combine Attendee
Combine Attendee
Posts: 9
Joined: Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:12 pm

Re: 2019 ROOKIE Defensive Line rankings

Postby vtejrep » Thu May 02, 2019 2:04 pm

where are you drafting Bosa in Dynasty Rookie drafts? He is worth a pick in the late 1st?

User avatar
Space Cowboy
Degenerate
Degenerate
Posts: 7635
Joined: Thu May 26, 2011 1:47 pm

Re: 2019 ROOKIE Defensive Line rankings

Postby Space Cowboy » Thu May 02, 2019 2:33 pm

vtejrep wrote:
Thu May 02, 2019 2:04 pm
where are you drafting Bosa in Dynasty Rookie drafts? He is worth a pick in the late 1st?
He went 1.07 in my sack heavy league. Can you name 7 better prospects? Plus this is a 2 QB league. He went before Jones and Lock, rightfully so.


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest