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LB advice

Postby bot » Sat Jan 19, 2019 1:24 pm

For team in sig. I have been kicking the tires on trying to get another elite LB to pair with Wagner. Asked about D Jones, Edmunds and Martinez. As you can see tho I currently have a bunch of young guys at the position on the end of my bench that I have been holding and waiting to see who (if any) hit next year -- .

Do I have enough to build a solid LB group with what I have or should I just bite the bullet and give up what it takes to get Deion or Edmunds (prob something along the lines of a late 1st in value based on convos with those owners)?

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Re: LB advice

Postby lukkynumber13 » Sat Jan 19, 2019 2:03 pm

Don’t ever go buy an elite LB.
BOTH TEAMS BELOW ARE 1QB

TEAM A - 12 teams (19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
BREES, Ryan, Herbert, Tua
COOK/JACOBS/MIXON, Dobbins, Hunt, Swift, Singletary, Bell, B Hill, Wilkins
NUK/HILL/GOLLADAY/K ALLEN, M Brown, D Johnson, Ruggs, Hilton, Pittman, G Davis, Ford, Wims
KITTLE, Waller, Akins, H Bryant
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Not listing my IDP, but they matter as much as offense in this league. The Bosa Bros, D-Buck, and Cam Jordan are my main studs.
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TEAM B - 32 teams, double copy - TEs get 1.5x bump in scoring
LAMAR, Rivers, Cousins, Darnold, J Love, Brissett
SAQUON/MIXON/GORDON, Carson, Dobbins, Ingram, D Freeman, Clement
NUK/EVANS/GOLLADAY/K ALLEN/JULIO, Thielen, DJ Moore, Lamb, Alshon
KITTLE/HENRY, James O
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Danielle Hunter, Aaron Donald, and Chris Jones are the cornerstones of my IDP squad. LBs and DBs are rag tag for now.

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Re: LB advice

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lukkynumber13 wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 2:03 pm
Don’t ever go buy an elite LB.
Thanks Lukky. It's always what I have felt in the past. I know with a pretty good starting lineup now I have found myself looking for holes and small ways I can improve but I know I never liked the price I would need to pay to get a stud LB.

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Re: LB advice

Postby FiremanEd » Mon Jan 21, 2019 3:19 pm

I would stand pat. You can put together a sufficient unit with Wagner, Demario, Warner, Kirksey, Shaq, and Milano...and then see what happens with Burfict.

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Re: LB advice

Postby bronx » Mon Jan 21, 2019 7:07 pm

lukkynumber13 wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 2:03 pm
Don’t ever go buy an elite LB.
Is this for the general IDP leagues that aren't balanced in scoring?

Darius Leonard was #19 and Luke Kuechly was #32 in scoring in my league, across all players. In that instance, would you still advise against going after an elite LB?
12-team PPR IDP Dynasty
League Champion '16, '18

QB: T. Brady, P. Rivers, D. Carr
RB: C. Edwards-Helaire, J.K. Dobbins, A. Jones, S. Michel, D. Johnson, J. Richard, J. Samuels, M. Boone
WR: D. Hopkins, D. Adams, M. Evans, A. Cooper, B. Aiyuk, C. Davis, J. Washington, A. Brown
TE: T. Kelce, T. Higbee
PK: G. Zuerlein
DL: C. Campbell, C. Heyward, J. Allen, M. Crosby, E. Griffen
LB: B. Wagner, C. Mosley, J. Hicks, R. Smith, I. Simmons, B. Dupree, W. Gay, J. Davis
DB: D. James, J. Johnson, H. Clinton-Dix, M. Hooker, K. Dugger

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Re: LB advice

Postby lukkynumber13 » Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:40 pm

bronx wrote:
Mon Jan 21, 2019 7:07 pm
lukkynumber13 wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 2:03 pm
Don’t ever go buy an elite LB.
Is this for the general IDP leagues that aren't balanced in scoring?

Darius Leonard was #19 and Luke Kuechly was #32 in scoring in my league, across all players. In that instance, would you still advise against going after an elite LB?
Yes, because Leonard’s year was a total outlier. The #15 linebacker didn’t score that many less points than the #2 or #3.
BOTH TEAMS BELOW ARE 1QB

TEAM A - 12 teams (19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
BREES, Ryan, Herbert, Tua
COOK/JACOBS/MIXON, Dobbins, Hunt, Swift, Singletary, Bell, B Hill, Wilkins
NUK/HILL/GOLLADAY/K ALLEN, M Brown, D Johnson, Ruggs, Hilton, Pittman, G Davis, Ford, Wims
KITTLE, Waller, Akins, H Bryant
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Not listing my IDP, but they matter as much as offense in this league. The Bosa Bros, D-Buck, and Cam Jordan are my main studs.
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TEAM B - 32 teams, double copy - TEs get 1.5x bump in scoring
LAMAR, Rivers, Cousins, Darnold, J Love, Brissett
SAQUON/MIXON/GORDON, Carson, Dobbins, Ingram, D Freeman, Clement
NUK/EVANS/GOLLADAY/K ALLEN/JULIO, Thielen, DJ Moore, Lamb, Alshon
KITTLE/HENRY, James O
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Danielle Hunter, Aaron Donald, and Chris Jones are the cornerstones of my IDP squad. LBs and DBs are rag tag for now.

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Re: LB advice

Postby GridironGuerilla » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:09 am

I still wish you could "like" comments in these forums.
Bo Knows Dynasty (12 Team IDP/Roster-30/8 IR/8 Taxi)1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 2 LB, 2 DL, 2 DB
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Dragon Eggs Devy (14 Team IDP/Roster-53/10 IR/8 Taxi)1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 4 Flex QB/RB/WR/TE, 2 LB, 1 DT, 2 DE, 1 CB, 2 DB, 2 Flex
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1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex QB/RB/WR/TE, 1 DT, 2 DE, 3 LB, 2 S, 1 CB, 1 Flex

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Re: LB advice

Postby bronx » Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:50 pm

lukkynumber13 wrote:
Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:40 pm
bronx wrote:
Mon Jan 21, 2019 7:07 pm
lukkynumber13 wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 2:03 pm
Don’t ever go buy an elite LB.
Is this for the general IDP leagues that aren't balanced in scoring?

Darius Leonard was #19 and Luke Kuechly was #32 in scoring in my league, across all players. In that instance, would you still advise against going after an elite LB?
Yes, because Leonard’s year was a total outlier. The #15 linebacker didn’t score that many less points than the #2 or #3.
Damn. Seriously, thank you for the reality check. Even with our high scoring settings for IDP, there is only a 48.00 point spread between #3 and #15, which is only a 3.00 point difference per game across a 16-game season.
12-team PPR IDP Dynasty
League Champion '16, '18

QB: T. Brady, P. Rivers, D. Carr
RB: C. Edwards-Helaire, J.K. Dobbins, A. Jones, S. Michel, D. Johnson, J. Richard, J. Samuels, M. Boone
WR: D. Hopkins, D. Adams, M. Evans, A. Cooper, B. Aiyuk, C. Davis, J. Washington, A. Brown
TE: T. Kelce, T. Higbee
PK: G. Zuerlein
DL: C. Campbell, C. Heyward, J. Allen, M. Crosby, E. Griffen
LB: B. Wagner, C. Mosley, J. Hicks, R. Smith, I. Simmons, B. Dupree, W. Gay, J. Davis
DB: D. James, J. Johnson, H. Clinton-Dix, M. Hooker, K. Dugger

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Re: LB advice

Postby Space Cowboy » Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:43 pm

I agree with Lukky, never buy although I am going after Roquan Smith. Half of the reason is the guy is a trade whore and I think I can get him relatively cheap.

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Re: LB advice

Postby dawgs4life » Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:09 pm

Space Cowboy wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:43 pm
I agree with Lukky, never buy although I am going after Roquan Smith. Half of the reason is the guy is a trade whore and I think I can get him relatively cheap.
Just as a gage what is relatively cheap? I tried to acquire Jared Davis last off-season to no avail. But I also know not to pay too much when trading for lbs.

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Re: LB advice

Postby lukkynumber13 » Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:50 pm

dawgs4life wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:09 pm
Space Cowboy wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:43 pm
I agree with Lukky, never buy although I am going after Roquan Smith. Half of the reason is the guy is a trade whore and I think I can get him relatively cheap.
Just as a gage what is relatively cheap? I tried to acquire Jared Davis last off-season to no avail. But I also know not to pay too much when trading for lbs.
If you can get a long-term starting LB for a 4th or even late 3rd, that’s fine. I wouldn’t pay more than that unless they’re a top 10ish dynasty LB.
BOTH TEAMS BELOW ARE 1QB

TEAM A - 12 teams (19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
BREES, Ryan, Herbert, Tua
COOK/JACOBS/MIXON, Dobbins, Hunt, Swift, Singletary, Bell, B Hill, Wilkins
NUK/HILL/GOLLADAY/K ALLEN, M Brown, D Johnson, Ruggs, Hilton, Pittman, G Davis, Ford, Wims
KITTLE, Waller, Akins, H Bryant
-
Not listing my IDP, but they matter as much as offense in this league. The Bosa Bros, D-Buck, and Cam Jordan are my main studs.
///
///
TEAM B - 32 teams, double copy - TEs get 1.5x bump in scoring
LAMAR, Rivers, Cousins, Darnold, J Love, Brissett
SAQUON/MIXON/GORDON, Carson, Dobbins, Ingram, D Freeman, Clement
NUK/EVANS/GOLLADAY/K ALLEN/JULIO, Thielen, DJ Moore, Lamb, Alshon
KITTLE/HENRY, James O
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Danielle Hunter, Aaron Donald, and Chris Jones are the cornerstones of my IDP squad. LBs and DBs are rag tag for now.

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Re: LB advice

Postby dawgs4life » Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:17 am

lukkynumber13 wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:50 pm
dawgs4life wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:09 pm
Space Cowboy wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:43 pm
I agree with Lukky, never buy although I am going after Roquan Smith. Half of the reason is the guy is a trade whore and I think I can get him relatively cheap.
Just as a gage what is relatively cheap? I tried to acquire Jared Davis last off-season to no avail. But I also know not to pay too much when trading for lbs.
If you can get a long-term starting LB for a 4th or even late 3rd, that’s fine. I wouldn’t pay more than that unless they’re a top 10ish dynasty LB.
Yeah Ive offered high 3rd with a player back and got quick rejects for Jared davis. Im sure I'd get the same for Roquan or any of the other rookies. I have a hard time giving up a 2nd considering I can just draft one of the top rookie LBs with that pick. Thx for the info bud, you have confirmed what I thought.
I only play in 16x53 with 10+ taxi size leagues with full IDP. All are PPR and most value return yardage. So my opinions may be skewed To these deep roster leagues.

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Re: LB advice

Postby Space Cowboy » Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:22 am

dawgs4life wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:09 pm
Space Cowboy wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:43 pm
I agree with Lukky, never buy although I am going after Roquan Smith. Half of the reason is the guy is a trade whore and I think I can get him relatively cheap.
Just as a gage what is relatively cheap? I tried to acquire Jared Davis last off-season to no avail. But I also know not to pay too much when trading for lbs.
Haven't sent anything yet, will do around draft time but I'm thinking something like round 3 (8 round draft with balanced IDP scoring) John Brown and Nyheim Hines. (maybe throw in Ekeler, Moncrief or Bernard too)

Light offer but he's a trade whore who has no depth.

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Re: LB advice

Postby Kcarr » Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:36 am

I generally try to be on the side selling stud lbs, drafting guys like deion Jones, jaylon Smith, darius Leonard, Jordan hicks, kwon Alexander, etc. As rookies and then selling off the extras once they hit. In rookie drafts there are always nearly surefire starting lbs who fall if you do your research and that can be had late 2nd or 3rd round. Take shots at them and when you have too many sell off.
4th and long: ppr, 10 team, qb, rb, rb, wr, wr, wr, flex, flex, te, k, dl, dl, lb, lb, db, db, dflex, dflex

QB: Kirk Cousins Tyrod Taylor, Jared Goff
RB: Melvin Gordon, Ezekiel Elliot, Theo Riddick, D'Onta Foreman, James Conner, Jamal Williams
WR: Alshon Jeffrey, Amari Cooper, Sammy Watkins, Keenan Allen, Jordan Matthews, Cole Beasley, Robby Anderson, Corey Davis, Breshad Perriman, Eli Rogers
TE: Eric Ebron, , David Njoku, Jack Doyle
K: Will Lutz
DL: Frank Clark, Danielle Hunter
LB: Luke Kuechley, Bobby Wagner, Jordan Hicks, Mark Barron, Darron Lee
DB: Sean Davis, Morgan Burnett,

IR: Clayton Geathers, Quincy Enunwa, Raekwon McMillan

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Re: LB advice

Postby lukkyseven » Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:05 am

The more I play IDP, the more I don't care about having a stud LB. Give me stud DE's because that give's me an advantage over my opponents. I want to have 5-6 LB's I can feel comfortable with every week. That or 4-5 and two rookies I'm hopeful on.
Team 1: 16 team 53 man roster IDP/PPR - Year 2
Line up: 1 QB, 1-4 RB, 2-5 WR, 1-3 TE ( 9 total offense), 1-2 DT, 2-3 DE, 3-4 LB, 2-3 S, 2-3 CB (11 total IDP)
QB: Brees, Carr
RB: Zeke, Hyde, Mattison, L Miller, D Lewis,
WR: Julio, Tyrell Williams, Preston Williams, Marvin Jones, Beasley, AJG, Humphries
TE: Hooper, Andrews, Dissly
DT: Harrison, Wilkins, Oliver
DE: Josh Allen, Ingram, Ngakoue
LB: R Smith, Alexander, Cunningham, McKinney, Kendricks
S: Bates, Whitehead
CB: Poole, Coleman
2020 picks: 1sts, 2nd, 3rd, 4th

Team 2: 32 team 53 man IDP/PPR double copy league - 2023 super pot
QB: Wentz, Foles, Haskins
RB: Jacobs, Guice, Gus, Ito, Singletary, Love
WR: Harry, Metcalf, M Brown, Grant, Boykin, Harmon, Lee
TE: Fant, Hurst, Oliver
DT: Richardson
DE: J. Allen, Beasley
LB: Clowney, Onwuasor, Pratt, Tavai
S: Randall, Evans
CB: streaming


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