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Su'a Cravens 2017 outlook

Postby Dyno_7 » Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:41 am

What's everyone's opinion on Cravens in 2017? Does he become a full time safety? I'm still pretty bullish on his upside, but haven't heard a lot in the IDP world about his expectations for year 2. I have to think Donte Whitner was just a 1 year rental while he learns the defense. If he's ready to go, I can see him in a similar role as Geathers. SS in base, LB in subs? Either way, I'm still high on the guy. Thoughts?
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TEAMS 1&2: 10tm. Non-PPR +IDP.
Starters: 1QB-2RB-3WR-1TE-1K-2DL-1EDR-3LB-3DB

TEAM 1:
QB: C.Wentz, P.Rivers, J.Rosen, L.Jackson.
RB: J.Mixon, L.Fournette, J.Howard, D.Williams
WR: O.BeckhamJr, M.Thomas, S.Diggs, J.Smith-Schuster, S.Watkins, C.Godwin, C.Sutton.
TE: Z.Ertz, M.Gesicki, G.Kittle.
DL: D.Hunter, D.Barnett, C.Jones.
EDR: H.Landry.
LB: M.Jack, Z.Cunningham, A.Williamson, L.Vander Esch, C.Littleton.
DB: R.Jones, B.McDougald, S.Williams.

TEAM 2:
QB: D.Watson.
RB: D.Cook, A.Kamara, J.Mixon, C.Hyde, N.Chubb, A.Jones.
WR: A.Cooper, M.Thomas, J.Smith-Schuster, J.Gordon, M.Williams, K.Golladay, C.Godwin, C.Kirk.
TE: E.Engram, D.Njoku, D.Goedert.
DL: K.Mack, D.Hunter, D.Ware
EDR: V.Miller
LB: T.Smith, M.Jack, D.Jones, Z.Cunningham, T.Edmunds, L.Vander Esch.
DB: B.Baker, D.James, C.Geathers.

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Re: Sua Cravens

Postby bruiser » Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:06 am

Here's the conversation that began after Cravens was drafted:

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Re: Sua Cravens

Postby bruiser » Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:16 am

This is another thread started with the exact same title

Su'a Cravens June 7, 2016 by Yung Don
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Re: Su'a Cravens 2017 outlook

Postby Dyno_7 » Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:23 am

Thanks fellas. Newer to the forum, didn't think to go back and look at older threads.
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TEAMS 1&2: 10tm. Non-PPR +IDP.
Starters: 1QB-2RB-3WR-1TE-1K-2DL-1EDR-3LB-3DB

TEAM 1:
QB: C.Wentz, P.Rivers, J.Rosen, L.Jackson.
RB: J.Mixon, L.Fournette, J.Howard, D.Williams
WR: O.BeckhamJr, M.Thomas, S.Diggs, J.Smith-Schuster, S.Watkins, C.Godwin, C.Sutton.
TE: Z.Ertz, M.Gesicki, G.Kittle.
DL: D.Hunter, D.Barnett, C.Jones.
EDR: H.Landry.
LB: M.Jack, Z.Cunningham, A.Williamson, L.Vander Esch, C.Littleton.
DB: R.Jones, B.McDougald, S.Williams.

TEAM 2:
QB: D.Watson.
RB: D.Cook, A.Kamara, J.Mixon, C.Hyde, N.Chubb, A.Jones.
WR: A.Cooper, M.Thomas, J.Smith-Schuster, J.Gordon, M.Williams, K.Golladay, C.Godwin, C.Kirk.
TE: E.Engram, D.Njoku, D.Goedert.
DL: K.Mack, D.Hunter, D.Ware
EDR: V.Miller
LB: T.Smith, M.Jack, D.Jones, Z.Cunningham, T.Edmunds, L.Vander Esch.
DB: B.Baker, D.James, C.Geathers.

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Re: Su'a Cravens 2017 outlook

Postby bruiser » Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:25 am

No sweat. If you go back out to the IDP subforum, you can search any player's name by using quotes:

"Su'a Cravens" will now turn up three different threads.
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Re: Su'a Cravens 2017 outlook

Postby lukkynumber13 » Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:58 am

Bnew_7 wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:41 am
What's everyone's opinion on Cravens in 2017? Does he become a full time safety? I'm still pretty bullish on his upside, but haven't heard a lot in the IDP world about his expectations for year 2. I have to think Donte Whitner was just a 1 year rental while he learns the defense. If he's ready to go, I can see him in a similar role as Geathers. SS in base, LB in subs? Either way, I'm still high on the guy. Thoughts?
It appears to be all but settled that he will be a safety full time this year.
BOTH TEAMS BELOW ARE 1QB

TEAM A - 12 teams (19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Brees, Tua, Wentz
COOK/JACOBS/MIXON, Dobbins, Swift, Hunt, Singletary, Bell, B Hill, Wilkins
NUK/HILL/GOLLADAY/K ALLEN, Diontae J, Hollywood, Ruggs, Pittman, Hilton, G Davis, Snead
KITTLE, Waller, Akins, H Bryant
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Not listing my IDP, but they matter as much as offense in this league. Joey Bosa, Buckner, Sweat, and Cam Jordan are my main studs.
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TEAM B - 32 teams, double copy - TEs get 1.5x bump in scoring
LAMAR, Cousins, Rivers, J Love
SAQUON/MIXON/CARSON, Dobbins, Lindsay, Mattison, Ingram, D Freeman, Clement
NUK/K ALLEN/JULIO/AROB, Evans, Thielen, DJ Moore, Lamb, Boyd, Coutee, Alshon
KITTLE/L Thomas, Ertz, Reed
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Re: Su'a Cravens 2017 outlook

Postby FiremanEd » Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:45 pm

The big question is how much will Cravens play in the box, and does he play LB in the Nickel. At this point I can't say, but there is potential upside here. I like his game, though won't have high expectations for making an impact in the pass game.

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Re: Su'a Cravens 2017 outlook

Postby DLF_Pierson » Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:02 am

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Re: Su'a Cravens 2017 outlook

Postby GridironGuerilla » Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:49 am

What do you guys think the odds are that he ends up in the box more often than not? Is there a chance up a Barron/Bucannon ala 2015 type DB?
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Re: Su'a Cravens 2017 outlook

Postby Dyno_7 » Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:16 pm

I think there's a good chance he plays near the LOS a lot. He's not playing deep that's for sure. Last year Ihenacho, Bruton & Whitner all split time at SS. All had productive tackle opportunities.
TEAMS 1&2: 10tm. Non-PPR +IDP.
Starters: 1QB-2RB-3WR-1TE-1K-2DL-1EDR-3LB-3DB

TEAM 1:
QB: C.Wentz, P.Rivers, J.Rosen, L.Jackson.
RB: J.Mixon, L.Fournette, J.Howard, D.Williams
WR: O.BeckhamJr, M.Thomas, S.Diggs, J.Smith-Schuster, S.Watkins, C.Godwin, C.Sutton.
TE: Z.Ertz, M.Gesicki, G.Kittle.
DL: D.Hunter, D.Barnett, C.Jones.
EDR: H.Landry.
LB: M.Jack, Z.Cunningham, A.Williamson, L.Vander Esch, C.Littleton.
DB: R.Jones, B.McDougald, S.Williams.

TEAM 2:
QB: D.Watson.
RB: D.Cook, A.Kamara, J.Mixon, C.Hyde, N.Chubb, A.Jones.
WR: A.Cooper, M.Thomas, J.Smith-Schuster, J.Gordon, M.Williams, K.Golladay, C.Godwin, C.Kirk.
TE: E.Engram, D.Njoku, D.Goedert.
DL: K.Mack, D.Hunter, D.Ware
EDR: V.Miller
LB: T.Smith, M.Jack, D.Jones, Z.Cunningham, T.Edmunds, L.Vander Esch.
DB: B.Baker, D.James, C.Geathers.

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Re: Su'a Cravens 2017 outlook

Postby breeze » Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:56 am

I'd personally be selling Cravens if someone gives me a price assuming he is 100% going to be a DB and stay there. They needed SS help badly last year and chose to keep him as a 3rd ILB only in subpackages. I think he is a very good football player but 4.7 wheels against NFL WRs scare me. Especially since the Giants only run 3WR (and mostly shotgun) sets. Sounds like he will get a shot to play SS but he dabbled in it in training camp last year then didn't play a single snap at Safety. I think his better fit is at weakside linebacker. If I had to make vegas odds I would say -150 that he starts at SS in week 1. So it's the favorite but far from definite.
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Re: Su'a Cravens 2017 outlook

Postby bruiser » Fri Feb 24, 2017 10:58 am

Bruiser wrote:
Tue May 03, 2016 1:35 pm
I'm not jumping in on Cravens. Maybe there's opportunity in Washington from lack of competition, but I just don't view him as better than average. I think there were some potentially better players for Washington at that pick for that same role.
I'm still here. The needle hasn't moved.
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Re: Su'a Cravens 2017 outlook

Postby Fantasyfanatic11 » Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:01 am

Now that he's been traded to Denver, worth an add?
10 team PPR
QB: Mahomes Tagovailoa Rivers
RB: Barkley Elliott CEH Dobbins D.Williams Hines
WR: Julio Godwin Allen Lockett Golladay Hilton AJG Ruggs Samuel Tate J.Brown Anderson AB
TE: Higbee Cook Eifert Njoku

16 Team PPR
QB: Stafford Darnold
RB: Chubb Kamara Singletary Ingram Guice Harris
WR: OBJ Cooper Hilton P.Williams Beasley J.Gordon DJax J.Grant
TE: Kittle Waller Gronk

10 team PPR
QB: Rodgers Garoppolo
RB: Elliott A.Jones Gurley Gordon L.Murray J.Williams D.Freeman
WR: Julio Tyreek Allen Golladay AJG Harry Pittman Aiyuk Lazard Sanu
TE: Kelce Fant Howard

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Re: Su'a Cravens 2017 outlook

Postby lukkynumber13 » Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:55 am

Waiver material.
BOTH TEAMS BELOW ARE 1QB

TEAM A - 12 teams (19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Brees, Tua, Wentz
COOK/JACOBS/MIXON, Dobbins, Swift, Hunt, Singletary, Bell, B Hill, Wilkins
NUK/HILL/GOLLADAY/K ALLEN, Diontae J, Hollywood, Ruggs, Pittman, Hilton, G Davis, Snead
KITTLE, Waller, Akins, H Bryant
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Not listing my IDP, but they matter as much as offense in this league. Joey Bosa, Buckner, Sweat, and Cam Jordan are my main studs.
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TEAM B - 32 teams, double copy - TEs get 1.5x bump in scoring
LAMAR, Cousins, Rivers, J Love
SAQUON/MIXON/CARSON, Dobbins, Lindsay, Mattison, Ingram, D Freeman, Clement
NUK/K ALLEN/JULIO/AROB, Evans, Thielen, DJ Moore, Lamb, Boyd, Coutee, Alshon
KITTLE/L Thomas, Ertz, Reed
Danielle Hunter, Aaron Donald, and Chris Jones are the cornerstones of my IDP squad.


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