Cameron Jordan offer made...is it bad?

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Cameron Jordan offer made...is it bad?

Postby lawilt » Mon Sep 05, 2016 2:51 pm

16 team league where you only need to start 2 DE

offered a 2017 1st for Cameron Jordan

Is that an insulting offer? After it was made got a bunch of intential lowballs back where the guy clearly took offense to that. Side note the owner of Jordan is no where near being a contender and he's got 2 years left on his deal.

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Re: Cameron Jordan offer made...is it bad?

Postby bruiser » Mon Sep 05, 2016 3:22 pm

I like it. Sometimes bad owners just continue down their lonely trail. You can lead a horse to water....
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Re: Cameron Jordan offer made...is it bad?

Postby breeze » Mon Sep 05, 2016 5:06 pm

I'd potentially trade Jordan for a 2nd and I love Jordan. Be happy he rejected. You were significantly overpaying
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Re: Cameron Jordan offer made...is it bad?

Postby Coogan Football » Mon Sep 05, 2016 6:19 pm

In a league that big I think he's worth a late 1st/early 2nd based on the scoring.

I've owned him since he was a rookie and he always seems to get tackles and tipped balls on a regular basis. I like being able to kind of peg him in for at least 2 or 3 tackles every week and then hope for a sack or FF.
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Re: Cameron Jordan offer made...is it bad?

Postby lawilt » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:34 pm

Mack was just sold for a 1st in this league couple weeks ago so I figured this would be more then fair

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Re: Cameron Jordan offer made...is it bad?

Postby icemic » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:51 pm

I also play in a 16 team league where we start two DE and own Jordan. I agree with the above statements. He's worth a late 1st/ early 2nd. So no, not a bad offer at all. And given how the 2017 draft class is shaping up, I don't know that I would offer that pick, unless you are confident it will be late.
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Re: Cameron Jordan offer made...is it bad?

Postby lawilt » Tue Sep 06, 2016 3:09 pm

have a feeling I won't be aquiring a DE in this league...just tried getting Griffen (miny) for a 2nd or Shaq Thompson and a 4th and just got a counter where he wants Jordan Reed straight up.

this is just getting ridiculous. I think I've offered a 1st for every DE in the top 12ish rankings and been turned down. Even tried getting Curry for a 2nd and me getting a 4th back in the deal and got countered Curry plus a 3 I think for Ogletree. I swear this league is attached to DE's.

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Re: Cameron Jordan offer made...is it bad?

Postby lukkynumber13 » Tue Sep 06, 2016 5:12 pm

lawilt wrote:have a feeling I won't be aquiring a DE in this league...just tried getting Griffen (miny) for a 2nd or Shaq Thompson and a 4th and just got a counter where he wants Jordan Reed straight up.

this is just getting ridiculous. I think I've offered a 1st for every DE in the top 12ish rankings and been turned down. Even tried getting Curry for a 2nd and me getting a 4th back in the deal and got countered Curry plus a 3 I think for Ogletree. I swear this league is attached to DE's.

That sucks :(

Just spitballing, maybe target Charles Johnson, Devin Taylor, Mario Williams, Henry Anderson, and Ty Crawford. Should be fairly cheap considering what they could give you
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Re: Cameron Jordan offer made...is it bad?

Postby lawilt » Tue Sep 06, 2016 5:51 pm

Finally got clarification on how he values Jordan. Greater then 1first but less than 3...not really sure what that means. I guess by that value watt should go for 6 1s.

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Re: Cameron Jordan offer made...is it bad?

Postby WONDERBALLS » Tue Sep 06, 2016 8:04 pm

It was a generous offer. I got Cam Jordan for a 2016 2nd and 3rd last year when JPP went Pyrotecnic and he paid dividends at that price.
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