This is for the first team in my signature.
I've got an owner that is pretty stacked (too stacked, actually) at the LB position, pretty short everywhere else, and interested in moving Brown for Snead.
Thing is, I'm not sure I necessarily need Brown. Or do I? Or would a 2017 2nd prove more beneficial? And this is where I'd really like some feedback.
For context, our league is scarily balanced, in terms of scoring. Brown was LB23, and the 98th overall scorer with 176.85 points last season. Snead was WR34, and the 157th overall scorer with 147.90 points.
So, with the above information and my roster below, should I be content with Brown? Should I take the 2017 2nd? Should I go nuts and ask for Barron (LB14)? Would anyone not trade Snead for any of the above?
Preston Brown or 2017 2nd?
Preston Brown or 2017 2nd?
12-team PPR IDP Dynasty
League Champion '16, '18
QB: T. Brady, J. Hurts
RB: A. Jones, C. Edwards-Helaire, J.K. Dobbins, D. Harris, S. Michel, J. Kelley, J. Wilson
WR: D. Adams, D. Hopkins, M. Evans, A. Cooper, D. Moore, C. Davis, M. Brown, A. Brown, S. Watkins
TE: T. Kelce, T. Higbee, A. Okwuegbunam
DL: J. Allen, M. Crosby, Y. Gross-Matos
LB: R. Smith, B. Wagner, H. Reddick, J. Hicks, L. Floyd, C. Moseley, D. Hightower, B. Dupree, C. Littleton
DB: D. James, J. Jones, K. Dugger, X. McKinney, X. Howard
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QB: T. Brady, J. Hurts
RB: A. Jones, C. Edwards-Helaire, J.K. Dobbins, D. Harris, S. Michel, J. Kelley, J. Wilson
WR: D. Adams, D. Hopkins, M. Evans, A. Cooper, D. Moore, C. Davis, M. Brown, A. Brown, S. Watkins
TE: T. Kelce, T. Higbee, A. Okwuegbunam
DL: J. Allen, M. Crosby, Y. Gross-Matos
LB: R. Smith, B. Wagner, H. Reddick, J. Hicks, L. Floyd, C. Moseley, D. Hightower, B. Dupree, C. Littleton
DB: D. James, J. Jones, K. Dugger, X. McKinney, X. Howard
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Re: Preston Brown or 2017 2nd?
I would much prefer the 2nd rounder to P. Brown.
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
/
TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
LAPORTA
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
/
TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
/
TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
/
TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
LAPORTA
Re: Preston Brown or 2017 2nd?
I might actually lean towards Brown here. If you start 4 LBs your depth doesn't inspire me [especially Attaochu] and Brown is fairly reliable. He played 98% of snaps last year, the Ryans have been talking him up something chronic and the Bills stat crew is obviously a benefit. I'm not as high on Ragland as some.
Snead on the other hand seems a solid result BUT he's in a crowded situation. Cooks and Bad Michael Thomas could easily leap ahead of him for targets. As could Fleener. And we all know Brees is good enough to adjust his targets to what the D is giving him - that could make Snead tough to predict.
Snead on the other hand seems a solid result BUT he's in a crowded situation. Cooks and Bad Michael Thomas could easily leap ahead of him for targets. As could Fleener. And we all know Brees is good enough to adjust his targets to what the D is giving him - that could make Snead tough to predict.
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Re: Preston Brown or 2017 2nd?
My current depth are definitely project players. I am hoping they step up once the opportunities present themselves with current starters departing, which may be right now for Whitehead with the official release of Tulloch. Still, I agree that I could use more reliable depth.TomK27 wrote:I might actually lean towards Brown here. If you start 4 LBs your depth doesn't inspire me [especially Attaochu] and Brown is fairly reliable. He played 98% of snaps last year, the Ryans have been talking him up something chronic and the Bills stat crew is obviously a benefit. I'm not as high on Ragland as some.
Snead on the other hand seems a solid result BUT he's in a crowded situation. Cooks and Bad Michael Thomas could easily leap ahead of him for targets. As could Fleener. And we all know Brees is good enough to adjust his targets to what the D is giving him - that could make Snead tough to predict.
I also wholeheartedly agree on everything you've said about Snead. I picked him up off waivers and was pleasantly surprised by his production, but New Orleans is loaded at viable targets. Just plain loaded. This is why I want to deal him away.
I am leaning towards Brown, but I'd like to hear from more people, if possible. I think I'm considering the 2017 2nd so much because I don't have one (I do have four 2017 1sts, though).
12-team PPR IDP Dynasty
League Champion '16, '18
QB: T. Brady, J. Hurts
RB: A. Jones, C. Edwards-Helaire, J.K. Dobbins, D. Harris, S. Michel, J. Kelley, J. Wilson
WR: D. Adams, D. Hopkins, M. Evans, A. Cooper, D. Moore, C. Davis, M. Brown, A. Brown, S. Watkins
TE: T. Kelce, T. Higbee, A. Okwuegbunam
DL: J. Allen, M. Crosby, Y. Gross-Matos
LB: R. Smith, B. Wagner, H. Reddick, J. Hicks, L. Floyd, C. Moseley, D. Hightower, B. Dupree, C. Littleton
DB: D. James, J. Jones, K. Dugger, X. McKinney, X. Howard
2021 2nd (4x), 3rd (3x)
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League Champion '16, '18
QB: T. Brady, J. Hurts
RB: A. Jones, C. Edwards-Helaire, J.K. Dobbins, D. Harris, S. Michel, J. Kelley, J. Wilson
WR: D. Adams, D. Hopkins, M. Evans, A. Cooper, D. Moore, C. Davis, M. Brown, A. Brown, S. Watkins
TE: T. Kelce, T. Higbee, A. Okwuegbunam
DL: J. Allen, M. Crosby, Y. Gross-Matos
LB: R. Smith, B. Wagner, H. Reddick, J. Hicks, L. Floyd, C. Moseley, D. Hightower, B. Dupree, C. Littleton
DB: D. James, J. Jones, K. Dugger, X. McKinney, X. Howard
2021 2nd (4x), 3rd (3x)
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Re: Preston Brown or 2017 2nd?
TomK27 wrote:I might actually lean towards Brown here. If you start 4 LBs your depth doesn't inspire me [especially Attaochu] and Brown is fairly reliable. He played 98% of snaps last year, the Ryans have been talking him up something chronic and the Bills stat crew is obviously a benefit. I'm not as high on Ragland as some.
Snead on the other hand seems a solid result BUT he's in a crowded situation. Cooks and Bad Michael Thomas could easily leap ahead of him for targets. As could Fleener. And we all know Brees is good enough to adjust his targets to what the D is giving him - that could make Snead tough to predict.
I apologize, I neglected to notice you start 4 LBs! In that case, I agree take Brown.
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
/
TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
/
TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
/
TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
/
TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
/
TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
LAPORTA
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
/
TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
/
TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
/
TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
/
TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
/
TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
/
TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
LAPORTA
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Re: Preston Brown or 2017 2nd?
If the second is in a rookie draft, I'd take Brown
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Re: Preston Brown or 2017 2nd?
Now I'll admit I'm a biased Preston Brown fan since last year, but I too think he will be a top 15 LB this year. He should be the highest scoring LB in Buffalo.
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Re: Preston Brown or 2017 2nd?
I went ahead and accepted the P. Brown offer.
Thanks for the feedback, everyone.
Thanks for the feedback, everyone.
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League Champion '16, '18
QB: T. Brady, J. Hurts
RB: A. Jones, C. Edwards-Helaire, J.K. Dobbins, D. Harris, S. Michel, J. Kelley, J. Wilson
WR: D. Adams, D. Hopkins, M. Evans, A. Cooper, D. Moore, C. Davis, M. Brown, A. Brown, S. Watkins
TE: T. Kelce, T. Higbee, A. Okwuegbunam
DL: J. Allen, M. Crosby, Y. Gross-Matos
LB: R. Smith, B. Wagner, H. Reddick, J. Hicks, L. Floyd, C. Moseley, D. Hightower, B. Dupree, C. Littleton
DB: D. James, J. Jones, K. Dugger, X. McKinney, X. Howard
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League Champion '16, '18
QB: T. Brady, J. Hurts
RB: A. Jones, C. Edwards-Helaire, J.K. Dobbins, D. Harris, S. Michel, J. Kelley, J. Wilson
WR: D. Adams, D. Hopkins, M. Evans, A. Cooper, D. Moore, C. Davis, M. Brown, A. Brown, S. Watkins
TE: T. Kelce, T. Higbee, A. Okwuegbunam
DL: J. Allen, M. Crosby, Y. Gross-Matos
LB: R. Smith, B. Wagner, H. Reddick, J. Hicks, L. Floyd, C. Moseley, D. Hightower, B. Dupree, C. Littleton
DB: D. James, J. Jones, K. Dugger, X. McKinney, X. Howard
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Re: Preston Brown or 2017 2nd?
Brown for me.
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