Best IDP Scoring

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Best IDP Scoring

Postby polk_high_allstar » Tue Jan 05, 2021 7:09 am

Been trying for years to get the IDP scoring to become more in line with their offensive counterparts. What are some of the scoring systems that leagues use to accomplish this. Our league is a little basic with two DB two DL and 3LB.
Madden Cruisers (10 Team)
QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, TE, FLEX, K, 2 DL, 3 LB, 2 DB(1 IR)

QB - J. Garoppolo, J. Winston
RB - S. Barkley, J. Mixon, R. Penny, M. Sanders, D. Foreman, C. Hyde, G. Bernard
WR - A. Cooper, C. Kupp, C. Davis, C. Godwin, D. Metcalf, D. Westbrook, K. Stills, D.Parker, D. Moncrief
TE - D. Njoku
DL -J. Watt, C. Dunlap, E. Griffen
LB - L. Kuechly, B. Wagner, T. Edmunds
DB - H. Clinton-Dix, D. Kazee
K - M. Crosby

Madden Cruisers (12 Team)
QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, SFLEX, FLEX, DT, DE, 2 LB, CB, S, 2 FLEX

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Re: Best IDP Scoring

Postby Ahwatukee Brewer » Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:38 pm

We use 4: 1 DE, 1 LB, 1 DB and 1 flex (usually a LB).
1.5 solo tackle
0.75 assist
2.0 sack
1.0 TFL
2.0 PD
1.0 FF
2.0 fumble recovery or interception

Scoring ranges from 14.82 per game (#1 IDP) to 11.63 (#20 IDP)
#20 RB was 12.51, #20 WR was 12.83
10 Team, 0.5 PPR, 1QB, 1RB, 1WR, 1TE, 2 Flex, 1K, 4 IDPs - Best Ball
QB: Lamar, Watson, Rivers, ASmith
RB: Barkley, Kamara, Mixon, CEH, Dillon, Pollard, Harris
WR: M Thomas, DJ Moore, AJ Brown, Jeudy, Lamb, B Edwards, Pittman, ColJohnson
TE: Henry, Jonnu, Dalton
K: Myers, Badgely
DE: Hunter, Josh Allen, Clark, JPP, Hubbard
LB: Wagner, DevWhite, Cunningham, Queen, I Simmons, AlexJohnson
DB: Darwin, Bates, Abram, Simmons

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Re: Best IDP Scoring

Postby ThunderTung » Tue Jan 05, 2021 11:05 pm

polk_high_allstar wrote:
Tue Jan 05, 2021 7:09 am
Been trying for years to get the IDP scoring to become more in line with their offensive counterparts. What are some of the scoring systems that leagues use to accomplish this. Our league is a little basic with two DB two DL and 3LB.
We start 2 DL 2 LB and 2 DB, with one flex. Scoring is very tackle heavy (1.5 points per) making ILB the RB of the defense. DL and DB are hard positions to score consistently unless they're safeties that get a lot of tackles. So we reward splash plays pretty heavily. INT's worth 5 FF worth 4.

Our scoring usually results in LB's being the most valuable defensive piece with the top LB's scoring between 200-230 a year, in line with the top RB's minus the obvious 1-2 that go crazy every year.

what makes it fun is that there are a few teams in the league where their LB's are their best position group on their team, and can still compete. While you won't win with just LB's it still gives you new ways to build your team
12 man IDP 0.5 ppr
Picks(2021):1.01,1.04,2.01,2.05,2.07
QB(1): Hurts
RB(2): Sanders/Harris
WR(2): Edelman/Lamb
TE(1): Goedert
FLEX(2): Hardman/Kirk
K: Jake Elliot
DL(2): Ngakoue/Hicks
LB(2): Hicks/J. Smith
DB(2) Devin McCourty/Mathieu
FLEX: Murray

Bench:
QB: Mayfield/Foles
RB: Barber/JJ Taylor/Burkhead/Ollison
WR: S. Miller/Sims/Campbell/Robinson/ KJ Hill/Meyers
TE: Gronk/Sternberger/Asiasi/Keene
DL: Dex. Lawrence/Allen
LB: Chubb/Barrett/Whitehead/Bentley/Vigil/Jones
DB: Gilmore/Sorenson

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Re: Best IDP Scoring

Postby lukkynumber13 » Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:42 pm

A sack needs to be worth at least 7-10 points, IMO - If not 10-15. My leagues score about 5-7 points for a sack, plus 2-3 pts for the TFL, plus 0.5 point per yard lost on the sack itself. A guy like Aaron Donald or Myles Garrett is worth as much as just about any offensive player.

You need to start more than 2 at each position tho, if you want IDP to really matter. I recommend 3 of each position, plus 2 flex
BOTH TEAMS BELOW ARE 1QB

TEAM A - 12 teams (19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Brees, Tua, Wentz
COOK/JACOBS/MIXON, Dobbins, Swift, Hunt, Singletary, Bell, B Hill, Wilkins
NUK/HILL/GOLLADAY/K ALLEN, Diontae J, Hollywood, Ruggs, Pittman, Hilton, G Davis, Snead
KITTLE, Waller, Akins, H Bryant
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Not listing my IDP, but they matter as much as offense in this league. Joey Bosa, Buckner, Sweat, and Cam Jordan are my main studs.
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TEAM B - 32 teams, double copy - TEs get 1.5x bump in scoring
LAMAR, Cousins, Rivers, J Love
SAQUON/MIXON/CARSON, Dobbins, Lindsay, Mattison, Ingram, D Freeman, Clement
NUK/K ALLEN/JULIO/AROB, Evans, Thielen, DJ Moore, Lamb, Boyd, Coutee, Alshon
KITTLE/L Thomas, Ertz, Reed
Danielle Hunter, Aaron Donald, and Chris Jones are the cornerstones of my IDP squad.

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Re: Best IDP Scoring

Postby domef10 » Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:57 pm

we start 3 DL - 3 LB- 3 DB - 2 IDP with this scoring:
IDP TD 6 Pts
Sack 3 Pts
QB Hit 1 Pt
Tackle 1 Pt
Tackle for loss 1,5 Pts
Blocked Punt, PAT 3 Pts
INT 4 Pts
Fumble Recovery 2 Pts
Forced Fumble 3 Pts
Safety 4 Pts
Assisted Tackle 0,5 Pts
Solo Tackle 1 Pt
Pass Defended 1 Pt

The top 5 of every position
top5 qb scored between 389,1 to 363,3
top5 rb scored 380,8 to 256,9
top5 wr scored 357,4 to 282,5
top5 te scored 311,8 to 176,3
top5 dl scored 192 to183
top5 lb scored 333 to 304,5
top5 db scored 263,5 to 232,5

we are talking to raise the points for sacks to 4 or 5, because you see that our dl-scoring ist not very high. it is very tackle heavy but all in all our league enjoys this scoring.
12 Team - PPR/SF - QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, FLEX, SF, K, 3DL, 3LB, 3DB, 2IDP
QB: Watson, Burrow, Tagovailoa, Trubisky, Stidham
RB: Chubb, Mixon, J. Wilson, Cohen, Penny, Gibson, D. Evans, Pollard, Mattison, B. Love, K. Vaughn
WR: DJ Moore, Lamb, Jeudy, P. Williams, Mims, Harry, D. Johnson, Edwards, St. Brown
TE: Fant, J. Smith, Kmet
K: Tucker
DL: Crosby, J. Allen, B. Burns, Q. Williams, Tuszka, R. Okwara, Chaisson, Sieler
LB: D. Jones, J. Smith, Bush, Queen, R. Evans, Okereke, Littleton
DB: M. Fitzpatrick, J. Simmons, Bates III, J. Fuller, Sorensen, D. Elliott, A. Davis
Picks 2021: 1.05, 1.11, 2.01, 2.08, 2.11

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Re: Best IDP Scoring

Postby IR1 » Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:08 pm

Main idp scoring for ours is 12 pts for sack or int, 2 pts for tackle and pass defended, 4 pts for DT tackle, 4 pts for ff and fr, 1 pt for a QB hit
10Team PPR-QB/RB/WR/WR/TE/PK/flex-DT/DE/DE/LB/LB/LB/CB/CB/S/S/flex
QB- Wilson, Herbert
RB-Kamara, Mixon, Dobbins, Akers, DHarris
WR-Adams, Evans, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Harry
TE- Kelce, Fant, Goedert, Njoku
PK
DT- Buckner, Simmons, KClark
DE- JBosa, Watt, Barnett, Gross-Matos
LB- D Jones, Edmunds, Warner, E Kendricks, Wagner , Simmons, Evans
CB- Moore, Hill, Bradberry, Bless
S- Clark, HSmith, Johnson, Dugger
IR Hunter, Barkley
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Re: Best IDP Scoring

Postby Kcarr » Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:38 am

I think a sack, pick, forced and recovered fumble, etc. need to be scored as the game changing plays they are a pick six probably impacts a game more than a long TD throw and should be treated as such and a sack is usually in that same range. I think 10 to 15 points is about right for those big plays and I think total scoring should be adjusted to where top LBs and DEs score like top RBs and WRs.

That said, I think even more important than that is there needs to be a solid number of defensive starters. On offense there are 6 players per play that can score, on defense there are 11. Just by that alone if your league is starting more offensive players than defensive you are doing it wrong and logically there should be nearly twice as many defensive starters.

To break it down further on any given play in the NFL there are on average 3 wrs, 1 rb, and 1 TE give or take. There are, by contrast, 3 DLs, 3 LBs, and 5 DBs give or taken, on average with maybe a shift from the or if you split them as you should 1 DT, 2 DEs, 3 LBs, 3 CBS, and 2 safeties, maybe shifted a little toward 4 DL and 2 LBs and with some of those 3rd CBS being safeties but just for round numbers. By that logic you should be starting as many total DLs and LBs as wrs and almost twice as many DBs. There should be twice as many DEs and safeties as rbs, as many cbs and lbs as wrs.
4th and long: ppr, 10 team, qb, rb, rb, wr, wr, wr, flex, flex, te, k, dl, dl, lb, lb, db, db, dflex, dflex

QB: Kirk Cousins Tyrod Taylor, Jared Goff
RB: Melvin Gordon, Ezekiel Elliot, Theo Riddick, D'Onta Foreman, James Conner, Jamal Williams
WR: Alshon Jeffrey, Amari Cooper, Sammy Watkins, Keenan Allen, Jordan Matthews, Cole Beasley, Robby Anderson, Corey Davis, Breshad Perriman, Eli Rogers
TE: Eric Ebron, , David Njoku, Jack Doyle
K: Will Lutz
DL: Frank Clark, Danielle Hunter
LB: Luke Kuechley, Bobby Wagner, Jordan Hicks, Mark Barron, Darron Lee
DB: Sean Davis, Morgan Burnett,

IR: Clayton Geathers, Quincy Enunwa, Raekwon McMillan


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