RB Pre-combine RB ratings

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RB Pre-combine RB ratings

Postby esloan35 » Thu Dec 26, 2019 5:47 am

The 2020 Rookie class is brewing to be one of the best. This makes for a good opportunity for the DLF community to start discussing what they see in this group of rookie talent.

My early RB ratings leading into the combine:

1. Taylor
2. Entienne
3. Swift
4. Dobbins
5. Hubbard if he declares
6. Akers
7. Moss
8. Benjamin
9. Edwards-Helaire
10. Harris

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Re: RB Pre-combine RB ratings

Postby Chwf3rd » Thu Dec 26, 2019 9:09 pm

1. Jonathan Taylor - Elite inside rushe
2. DAndre Swift - smooth and quick
3. Cam Akers - great in all phases
4. JK Dobbins - solid everywhere but no elite trait
5. Travis Etienne - insane straight line explosion and speed
6. Zack Moss - lateral ability and contact balance
7. Eno Benjamin - extremely violent and tough runner
8. China Hubbard - discount Etienne
9. Najee Harris - big and fast
10. Clyde Edwards Helaire - future backup RB
Team 1 - 12 team PPR
QB: MRyan, PRivers
RB: AKamara, JMixon, DHenderson, LMcCoy, RArmstead, TPollard
WR: ACooper, SDiggs, CSamuel, AJGreen, SWatkins, AMiller, DiJohnson, ZPascal
TE: MAndrews, ISmith, KWarring
Record: 4-6
Picks: 1, 1, 1

Team 2 - 12 team, PPR, superflex
QB: MStafford, SDarnold, DJones, BRoethlisberger, ALuck
RB: DCook, PLindsay, TColeman, DSingletary, JWhite, DFreeman, CHyde, MWalton, RMostert, MGaskin, QOllison
WR: DAdams, MEvans, SDiggs, DSamuel, SWatkins, MHardman, GAllison
TE: JDoyle, TBurton, DKnox, DFells, KWarring
Record: 6-4
Picks: 1, 2, 2

Team 3 - 12 team, PPR, 2QB, 2TE
QB: DWatson, CWentz, MStafford, DJones, ALuck
RB: NChubb, DMontgomery, SMichel, KDrake, CHyde, TJohnson, MWalton, KBallage, CThompson, JDMcKissic, QOllison
WR: THill, DAdams, SDiggs, DSamuel, PCampbell, DiJohnson, JCrowder, JWashington, ALazard, ATate
TE: GKittle, HHenry, TJHock, KWarring
Record: 8-2
Picks: 1, 1, 1, 2, 2

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Re: RB Pre-combine RB ratings

Postby StripesOfKC » Fri Dec 27, 2019 4:32 pm

I don't see why Hubbard is that high.
He is a very nice college back but runs against awful Big 12 defenses and has serious issues in the passing game - mostly as a blocker.
His contact balance is also far below that of Etienne.
I say back end of top 10 is reasonable but I don't love his fit in the NFL, especially compared to a more well rounded back like Akers or even Najee

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Re: RB Pre-combine RB ratings

Postby alewilliam789 » Tue Dec 31, 2019 8:15 am

These aren’t ranked in a specific order just tiered.

Tier 1:
Jonathan Taylor
D’Andre Swift
Dobbins

Tier 2:
Kylin Hill
Najee Harris
Travis Etienne

Tier 3:
Cam Akers
AJ Dillon
Clyde Edwards-Helaire
Eno Benjamin

Tier 4:
Zach Moss
Anthony McFarland
Ke’shawn Vaughn
12 Owner 1 PPR (4th Season) 1QB, 2WR, 1RB, 1TE, 1 FLEX, 1K, 1 DEF -- 20 man roster
Record: 7-6
QB - Watson, Prescott, Carr
WR - Courtland Sutton, Michael Gallup, AJ Brown, JJ Arcega-Whiteside, John Brown, Andy Isabella, Josh Reynolds
RB - Miles Sanders
TE - T.J. Hockenson, I Thomas, J. Oliver

Picks:
2020-
4 1sts, 5 2nds, and a 3rd


12 Owner 1 PPR (3rd Season) 1QB, 2WR, 1RB, 1TE, 1 FLEX, 1K, 1 DEF -- 20 man roster
Record: 6-7
QB: Rivers, Wentz, Lock
RB: David Johnson, Mixon, Hyde
WR: Michael Thomas, Amari Cooper, Brandin Cooks, AJ Green, JJ Arcega-Whiteside, Josh Reynolds, Andy Isabella
TE: Kittle, OJ Howard, Chris Herndon

Picks:
2020-
1st and 3rd

12 Owner 1 PPR (1st Season) 1QB 1-3 RB 1-3 WR 1-2 TE
1 K 1D/ST — 20 man rosters
Record: 7-6
QB: Mahomes, Stafford
RB: Chubb, Guice, Penny, Duke Johnson, Darrell Henderson
WR: Landry, Sutton, Marvin Jones, Harry, Crowder, Josh Reynolds
TE: Hooper, Goedert

2020:
2 1st, 1 2nd, 1 3rd Round Picks

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Re: RB Pre-combine RB ratings

Postby elkoholic08 » Tue Dec 31, 2019 11:31 am

Thing with Akers is i feel ive seen on twitter he could go round 3 or un-drafted.

There's always players ppl on twitter/forums seem to love but NFL teams don't.

Does that factor into anyone's rankings when you do rookie mocks or just on your own eye test for now.
Dynasty 14 team 1/2 ppr 1QB 2RB 2WR 1 TE 2 FLEX

QB- Brees,Winston
RB: Kamara, Josh Jacobs, J.Howard, K. Ballage, Tre Carson
WR: JuJu, Arob, DK Metcalf,, Crowder, Agholor, Allison, D.Robinson, R.Cage
TE: Noah Fant, Jonnue Smith
2020: 1st (projected) two 3rd, two 4th and a 5th
2021: 1,1, 2, 3,4,5

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Re: RB Pre-combine RB ratings

Postby alewilliam789 » Tue Dec 31, 2019 2:25 pm

elkoholic08 wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2019 11:31 am
Thing with Akers is i feel ive seen on twitter he could go round 3 or un-drafted.

There's always players ppl on twitter/forums seem to love but NFL teams don't.

Does that factor into anyone's rankings when you do rookie mocks or just on your own eye test for now.
My rankings are solely based off tape. I think everybody loves Akers because he’s going to be an athletic freak and they just assume he was playing on a bad team and will improve in the NFL. Not that all that isn’t true, but for me his tape still isn’t that impressive. Contact balance is above average and he’s solid as a receiver. With a good combine and draft process I could see him creeping into early day 3, but I would not be surprised at all if he fell to Round 4/5. Doesn’t mean he won’t be productive, but I don’t think he’s anywhere near on the level as Dobbins, Taylor, and Swift.
12 Owner 1 PPR (4th Season) 1QB, 2WR, 1RB, 1TE, 1 FLEX, 1K, 1 DEF -- 20 man roster
Record: 7-6
QB - Watson, Prescott, Carr
WR - Courtland Sutton, Michael Gallup, AJ Brown, JJ Arcega-Whiteside, John Brown, Andy Isabella, Josh Reynolds
RB - Miles Sanders
TE - T.J. Hockenson, I Thomas, J. Oliver

Picks:
2020-
4 1sts, 5 2nds, and a 3rd


12 Owner 1 PPR (3rd Season) 1QB, 2WR, 1RB, 1TE, 1 FLEX, 1K, 1 DEF -- 20 man roster
Record: 6-7
QB: Rivers, Wentz, Lock
RB: David Johnson, Mixon, Hyde
WR: Michael Thomas, Amari Cooper, Brandin Cooks, AJ Green, JJ Arcega-Whiteside, Josh Reynolds, Andy Isabella
TE: Kittle, OJ Howard, Chris Herndon

Picks:
2020-
1st and 3rd

12 Owner 1 PPR (1st Season) 1QB 1-3 RB 1-3 WR 1-2 TE
1 K 1D/ST — 20 man rosters
Record: 7-6
QB: Mahomes, Stafford
RB: Chubb, Guice, Penny, Duke Johnson, Darrell Henderson
WR: Landry, Sutton, Marvin Jones, Harry, Crowder, Josh Reynolds
TE: Hooper, Goedert

2020:
2 1st, 1 2nd, 1 3rd Round Picks

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Re: RB Pre-combine RB ratings

Postby The.Big.Spank » Wed Jan 01, 2020 9:03 am

A lot will have to do with what team drafts them. I like Swift on a team that uses their RB's like KC does. If Najee Harris or Helaire land in Seattle, it bumps them up for me.

Then their is the RBBC factor to consider as well. Pro Football Focus loves Etienne. His metrics for elusiveness, speed, explosion, etc, is head and shoulders above anybody else, BUT, not so hot at blocking and has shown poor hands and route running. Limits his role.

My best bet for a three down work horse back that you can run a good chunk of the offense through is Taylor. He is complete to me. Size, power, explosive, speed, tough, reliable hands and receiver.

I think Zach Moss is being under rated and its the last time I am even going to mention his name anywhere until after my rookie drafts.

I am a trust your eyes kinda guy. So I can't leave C.E.H off board. The guy is just a football player. He is just always making plays in big games against tough opponents. It's hard to get excited about his sizzle like it is with Entienne, because he does not have any, but that kid is a lot of steak. I respect his game a lot. Super tough guy.
10 Team, 1 pt PPR, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2 Flex

QB: Wentz, Mayfield, Carr
RB: Gurley, Barkley, Elliott, Edmonds,
WR: M. Thomas, JuJu, Godwin, Adams, Whiteside, P. Williams
TE: Henry,Waller, Hockinson

2020 1.5,6,8,10 firsts

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Re: RB Pre-combine RB ratings

Postby esloan35 » Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:11 am

The.Big.Spank wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2020 9:03 am
A lot will have to do with what team drafts them. I like Swift on a team that uses their RB's like KC does. If Najee Harris or Helaire land in Seattle, it bumps them up for me.

Then their is the RBBC factor to consider as well. Pro Football Focus loves Etienne. His metrics for elusiveness, speed, explosion, etc, is head and shoulders above anybody else, BUT, not so hot at blocking and has shown poor hands and route running. Limits his role.

My best bet for a three down work horse back that you can run a good chunk of the offense through is Taylor. He is complete to me. Size, power, explosive, speed, tough, reliable hands and receiver.

I think Zach Moss is being under rated and its the last time I am even going to mention his name anywhere until after my rookie drafts.

I am a trust your eyes kinda guy. So I can't leave C.E.H off board. The guy is just a football player. He is just always making plays in big games against tough opponents. It's hard to get excited about his sizzle like it is with Entienne, because he does not have any, but that kid is a lot of steak. I respect his game a lot. Super tough guy.
This is good feedback and I think helpful. The top 4 backs in Entienne, Taylor, Swift and Dobbins are getting a bunch of deserved chatter. Where they land will be key. If KC jumps early and gets one they jump up immediately. I have 1.1 in a league and love Entienne and Taylor. My brain says Taylor and football fan says Entienne, whoever lands in the best scenario will pop out.

Combine ahead will flush out some of the others past the top 4 who seem to have some quality options out there.

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Re: RB Pre-combine RB ratings

Postby esloan35 » Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:31 am

Watched some tape on Harris and dude has some nice hands. I can see him climbing some boards if he has a good combine and lands in a favorable spot.

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Postby animalkev » Sat Jan 04, 2020 8:30 pm

Like someone said, it all matters where they land.

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Re: RB Pre-combine RB ratings

Postby ThunderTung » Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:34 am

i still dont love Etienne, something tells me his game wont translate to the next level. Swift and Taylor are top 2 for me rn and i think everyone else (dobbins, akers, etienne) are tier 2
12 man IDP dynasty
Picks(2020): 1.02/i]
QB(1): Mayfield
RB(2): Hunt/Gordon
WR(2): Edelman, Alshon
TE(1): Goedert
FLEX(2): Miles Sanders/Kirk
K: Jake Elliot
DL(2): Yannick/Hicks
LB(2):Nick Vigil/Shaq Barrett
DB(2) Shawn Williams/Mathieu
FLEX: Chandler Jones

Bench:
QB: Foles/Flacco
RB: Barber/Mattison/Mostert
WR: Dorsett/Mecole/Sims/Snead
TE: Fells/Witten
DL: Linval/Vea
LB: Bostic/Chubb//Milano/Whitehead
DB: Gilmore/McCourty/Ward

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Re: RB Pre-combine RB ratings

Postby DJB » Fri Jan 10, 2020 6:26 pm

1. Dobbins
2. Swift
3. Taylor
4. Etienne
5. Chubba
6. CEH
7. Harris
8. Moss
9. Akers
10. Benjamin


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