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These are the first round picks since 2000 1 Jeremy Shockey 2 Kyle Pitts ** 3 Kellen Winslow 4 Noah Fant ** 5 Brandon Pettigrew 6 Jermaine Gresham 7 Evan Engram 8 Dustin Keller 9 T.J. Hockenson ** 10 Greg Olsen 11 Eric Ebron ** 12 O.J. Howard ** 13 Heath Miller 14 Dallas Clark 15 Vernon Davis 16 Ben...

Do people need an explanation of value? Production over replacement at acquisition cost is fantasy 101.

The original statement was safety and value are not synonymous. We are looking for predictive, actionable advantages. Simply drafting first round TEs at cost hasn't show to be that.

Alright, just to clarify a bit at least how I calculate value using Worst-starter method as far as the values between TE and WR. First, the assumptions. These are different for all leagues and value is league dependent. If our league was a 12 team league, we start 2 WRs required and 1 TE required w...

So to wrap this all up, drafting a first round TE is your best bet to ensure a safe floor at the lowest scoring position with no correlation to elite production.

Got it. Moving on

wickerkat1212, aside from Superflex leagues, you're probably comparing the least useful value proposition there. QB and TE are "start one" positions in standard fantasy (unless otherwise specified) Where there's a real debate is in the value of having a singular top end TE and a low end W...

Every 1st Round Tight End drafted since 2002 1st 3 years Yardage 1 Jeremy Shockey 2095 2 Kyle Pitts 2049 3 Kellen Winslow 2031 4 Noah Fant 1905 5 Brandon Pettigrew 1845 6 Jermaine Gresham 1804 7 Evan Engram 1766 8 Dustin Keller 1744 9 T.J. Hockenson 1673 10 Greg Olsen 1577 11 Eric Ebron 1496 12 O.J...

Perhaps. I can tell you that Kyle Pitts 1st year as a TE was the 2nd highest fantasy total by a rookie 1st Round TE ever and 5th overall by any rookie TE Kincaids was the 12th highest Rookie TE ever This further shows the lack of value in the position. Pitts record year was equivalent to the WR36 i...

Safety and value are different things. Elite TE scoring was down this year. When the top TEs are barely outpacing K & DSTs, it's hard to make a case for spending up for them. Perhaps. I can tell you that Kyle Pitts 1st year as a TE was the 2nd highest fantasy total by a rookie 1st Round TE ever...

Safety and value are different things. Elite TE scoring was down this year. When the top TEs are barely outpacing K & DSTs, it's hard to make a case for spending up for them. Yup, Hayden Hurst being a hit is really all you need to know about the criteria here. It's not about fantasy so much as ...

But Atlanta could change (maybe not next year), or he could get out of there. Pitts will hit FA after his rookie deal and still be younger than when Kelce or Ertz put up their 1st 1000 yard season. Pitts did it at 21 After their 1st 3 years Pitts - 2049 Yards (149 receptions, 259 targets) Ertz - 20...

Are you a first round TE salesman? Jokes aside, nice write-up. I never would've guessed. Why do you think there so much hate though? Is there such low scoring that a top 12 TE finish is only a handful of points more than the next twelve? Probably because being a top 12 TE isn't hard. Pitts, who eve...

Safety and value are different things. Elite TE scoring was down this year. When the top TEs are barely outpacing K & DSTs, it's hard to make a case for spending up for them.

Time to accquire Noah Gray?! Only if you're positive that as a replacement starter he's going to be more Rice and less MVS. Not everyone can step into a prime situation and produce like great players. Make sure you believe Gray has what it takes to reproduce even 50% of Kelce. I'm not convinced he'...

He's declining, but still can perform. I do think KC needs to get some better WRs around him. He's STILL the TE2 in my 1 PPR leagues—tied with Hock, LaPorta a few points more. LaPorta 225 Kelce 221 Hock 221 Engram 210 Njoku 205 Kittle 205 Kmet 174 to quote the great Mickey Goldmill, “Women Weaken L...

Haven't watched any of their film, does GB have a really deep, talented young WR core (Watson, Reed, Doubs, Wicks, Melton) or is it a system that just lends itself well to WR production?