Just got OBJ great move right?

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Just got OBJ great move right?

Postby schiewerma21 » Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:30 pm

Team in sig 1.

Just traded the 1.06,1.07 and 1.11 for OBJ str8 up.

I feel like my team is elite and OBJ starts for me where those rookie picks are unlikely.

People value rookies a lot in my league so some felt I overpaid…. I think it was the best move for me being the 1st place team in 2013 and 2nd this year (thanks a lot bin laden, jamaal charles and andrew luck.)
TEAM 1: 12 man PPR (.25 passing and rushing attempt) dynasty league
QB:Josh Allen, Matt Ryan, Zach Wilson
RB: Saquon Barkley, Jonathan Taylor, JK Dobbins, Najee Harris, Joe Mixon, Deandre Swift
WR: Tyreek Hill, Justin Jefferson, Deandre Hopkins, Chris Godwin, Jamaar Chase, Allen Robinson, Rashod Bateman
TE: Kyle Pitts, Hunter Henry

TEAM 2: 10 MAN Superflex. (standard PPR).
QB: Mahomes, Wilson, Stafford, Wentz, Jimmy G
RB: Mccaffrey, Zeke, Javonte, Akers, Jacobs, Edmonds, Henderson, Fournette, Pollard
WR: Adams, Michael Thomas, Keenan Allen, Aiyuk, Odell Beckham, Devonta Smith Julio,Shenault
TE: Travis Kelce, George Kittle

TEAM 3:10 MAN PPR (2 QUARTERBACK LEAGUE took over orphan 2016) Dynasty League
QB: Dak, Lamar, Tua, Winston, Bridgewater,
RB: Mccaffrey, Henry, Aaron Jones, Chubb, Mike Davis
WR: Aj Brown, Terry Mclaurin, Theilen, Godwin, Juedy, Sutton, Watkins, Davis, Crowder
TE: Waller, Engram, Geodtert
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Re: Just got OBJ great move right?

Postby Thedude30 » Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:53 pm

Wow, that is a good deal, IMO. He seems to be the real deal. In one league, I'd love to acquire OBJ but I'd have to trade two arms and two legs. In the league that I own him, Not much could pry him away. Especially not 3 mid 1st rounders.
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Re: Just got OBJ great move right?

Postby JG7773 » Sun Dec 21, 2014 9:13 pm

Yeah, I think based on your overall squad, moving the three picks to add OBJ is a great move. Nice to have a league full of people that value rookies to be able to make that move.
Team 1: Yr. 1 = 7-6 (6th place) Yr. 2 = 10-3 (3rd place)
QB - Luck / Rodgers / Stafford /
RB - Chris Johnson / Spiller / Charles Sims / Latavius Murray / CMike / Blue / Foster / Ajayi
WR - Calvin / Wheaton / Randle / Funchess / LaFell / M. Bryant / Michael Floyd / D. Adams / Matthews / Moncrief / Amendola
TE - Gronk / Rudolph
D - Lions / Steelers
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RB - Blue / Gore / Lynch / McKinnon / Peterson / Yeldon / Morris / Rainey / Woodhead / McFadden / Brown
WR - Baldwin / Fitzgerald / LaFell / Hurns / Steve Smith / Tate / Wallace / Wheaton / Randle / Crabtree
TE - Bennett / Gronk / Clay
TAXI SQUAD: Garret Grayson

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QB TD = 5 pt / QB Passing = 1 pt / 25
RB TD = 6 pt / RB Yards = .1 / yd
WR TD = 6 pt / WR Yards = .1 / yd
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Re: Just got OBJ great move right?

Postby knotts4372 » Sun Dec 21, 2014 10:16 pm

to say its a steal makes that dude look dumb as hell. its def not a steal not even close to it. its a decent trade for both teams likely but no way is 3 1sts for him a steal for you as someone said. i see why you did it but yeah
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Re: Just got OBJ great move right?

Postby Thedude30 » Sun Dec 21, 2014 10:33 pm

knotts4372 wrote:to say its a steal makes that dude look dumb as hell. its def not a steal not even close to it. its a decent trade for both teams likely but no way is 3 1sts for him a steal for you as someone said. i see why you did it but yeah
Wow, like I can't read this. Sure, im dumb as hell.

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Re: Just got OBJ great move right?

Postby Thedude30 » Sun Dec 21, 2014 10:39 pm

knotts4372 wrote:to say its a steal makes that dude look dumb as hell. its def not a steal not even close to it. its a decent trade for both teams likely but no way is 3 1sts for him a steal for you as someone said. i see why you did it but yeah
2013 you may have grabbed, Zac Stacy, C Patterson, or Markus Wheaton with those picks. All being picked within the 1.06, 1.07, and 1.11 range. You wanna trade me OBJ for those three? Eddie Lacy dropped that low, which is a good pic, but there was also Jonathan Fraklin. So yeah, OBJ and his over 1k yards and 11 TDs in 11 games as a rookie isn't a steal when compared to three picks that could or couldn't work out. 2014 draft was an anomaly, not many draft years will be like it.
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Re: Just got OBJ great move right?

Postby knotts4372 » Sun Dec 21, 2014 10:45 pm

3 1sts is paying top 5 wr price for him. based on a sample size of what 10 games? thats ignorant and exactly what got josh gordon owners in trouble last yr.

also victor cruz will be back next year you ppl fail to remember that.
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Re: Just got OBJ great move right?

Postby Thedude30 » Sun Dec 21, 2014 10:46 pm

knotts4372 wrote:3 1sts is paying top 5 wr price for him. based on a sample size of what 10 games? thats ignorant and exactly what got josh gordon owners in trouble last yr.

also victor cruz will be back next year you ppl fail to remember that.
Right dude, you win. Keep grabbing those rookies every year. I haven't had a problem winning in my leagues.

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Re: Just got OBJ great move right?

Postby knotts4372 » Sun Dec 21, 2014 10:50 pm

nor have i lol. your point makes zero sense since beckham was a mid/late 1st rd rookie just this year!!! so moronic lol.
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Re: Just got OBJ great move right?

Postby Thedude30 » Sun Dec 21, 2014 10:53 pm

knotts4372 wrote:nor have i lol. your point makes zero sense since beckham was a mid/late 1st rd rookie just this year!!! so moronic lol.
You're right, I'm a moron. I make no sense. Thank you for enlightening me. This last draft (2014) was a lot stronger than any in the past, but, my opinion doesn't matter so you should just call me names. Good for you. Nice discussion.

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Re: Just got OBJ great move right?

Postby schiewerma21 » Sun Dec 21, 2014 11:03 pm

I don't think paying three later firsts is paying top 5 price.

I have seen what it would take to get Julio and aj and dez off people on these forums.
It's laughable and not worth trying.

Obj has been the most dominant player in fantasy this season down the stretch. I gaurantee he is on the most champion teams this season.
TEAM 1: 12 man PPR (.25 passing and rushing attempt) dynasty league
QB:Josh Allen, Matt Ryan, Zach Wilson
RB: Saquon Barkley, Jonathan Taylor, JK Dobbins, Najee Harris, Joe Mixon, Deandre Swift
WR: Tyreek Hill, Justin Jefferson, Deandre Hopkins, Chris Godwin, Jamaar Chase, Allen Robinson, Rashod Bateman
TE: Kyle Pitts, Hunter Henry

TEAM 2: 10 MAN Superflex. (standard PPR).
QB: Mahomes, Wilson, Stafford, Wentz, Jimmy G
RB: Mccaffrey, Zeke, Javonte, Akers, Jacobs, Edmonds, Henderson, Fournette, Pollard
WR: Adams, Michael Thomas, Keenan Allen, Aiyuk, Odell Beckham, Devonta Smith Julio,Shenault
TE: Travis Kelce, George Kittle

TEAM 3:10 MAN PPR (2 QUARTERBACK LEAGUE took over orphan 2016) Dynasty League
QB: Dak, Lamar, Tua, Winston, Bridgewater,
RB: Mccaffrey, Henry, Aaron Jones, Chubb, Mike Davis
WR: Aj Brown, Terry Mclaurin, Theilen, Godwin, Juedy, Sutton, Watkins, Davis, Crowder
TE: Waller, Engram, Geodtert
2021picks: 1.10,3.10

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Re: Just got OBJ great move right?

Postby Thedude30 » Sun Dec 21, 2014 11:14 pm

schiewerma21 wrote:I don't think paying three later firsts is paying top 5 price.

I have seen what it would take to get Julio and aj and dez off people on these forums.
It's laughable and not worth trying.

Obj has been the most dominant player in fantasy this season down the stretch. I gaurantee he is on the most champion teams this season.
Obviously I tend to agree. If you get one guy who has proven he can put up stats and make plays, I take him over three guys that have proven nothing. Rookies, in general, aren't going to produce right away. I'm looking to win now, while staying relatively young. OBJ looks like the real deal, while we don't know what the future holds, im willing to take a chance on his superb production, over three unknowns. That's my philosophy, may not be the same as others, however I don't think it makes me a "moron" or "dumb as hell".

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Re: Just got OBJ great move right?

Postby BuckeyeNation » Sun Dec 21, 2014 11:42 pm

schiewerma21 wrote:I don't think paying three later firsts is paying top 5 price.

I have seen what it would take to get Julio and aj and dez off people on these forums.
It's laughable and not worth trying.

Obj has been the most dominant player in fantasy this season down the stretch. I gaurantee he is on the most champion teams this season.
Don't really want to get in the middle of the argument in this thread, but this is spot on. We've discussed this several times on the boards. 3 mid 1st is not paying top 5 WR value. That's more on the lines of 4-5 1sts
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Reed/Doyle/Miller/Gathers

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Ajayi/Howard/Hyde/Riddick/Vereen/Burk/Clement
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Re: Just got OBJ great move right?

Postby knotts4372 » Sun Dec 21, 2014 11:47 pm

idk what leagues some of you have played in but in my 15 yrs of playing fantasy i have only ever seen 1 player go for more than 3 1sts. adrian peterson a few yrs back after his monster year
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Re: Just got OBJ great move right?

Postby Scorpio78 » Sun Dec 21, 2014 11:59 pm

knotts4372 wrote:idk what leagues some of you have played in but in my 15 yrs of playing fantasy i have only ever seen 1 player go for more than 3 1sts. adrian peterson a few yrs back after his monster year
This is helpful information, because I think it helps to put into perspective where you're coming from. I would assume that you play in leagues that don't have imaginary rules about a player needing to perform at a specific level over a predetermined interval before he can safely be regarded as a stud. If that's the case, then yes, I could see how three draft picks might carry more value than OBJ. I suppose it really comes down to your evaluation of this draft (or any draft) after the combine and NFL Draft. If you have players that will be there at 1.06, 1.07, and 1.12 that you believe in, then selling OBJ (or any other player) for that could work out. I personally think we're still too early in the draft process to know what kind of value will be there at 1.06, 1.07, and 1.12 so I wouldn't be looking to sell any top assets for picks until I knew what I was getting.


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