Was this trade legit or unfair

[regnal]

It is a 16 team 5 keeper league.

Team 1 gets
2013 1st round pick #4 (4th overall)

Team 2 gets
2013 4th round pick #7 (55th overall)
2013 5th round pick #8 (72nd overall)
2015 4th round pick #9 (57th overall)

It was vetoed in my league and I am just curious if it is not fair trade?

If it is not a fair trade, what would be a fair trade to get a 1st round pick?

[shady23]

That is horrible

[Krang]

Unless your league has some strange setup that makes 1st round picks extremely expensive to use, that trade is beyond terrible and makes absolutely no sense.

[sloth8u]

i play in a 7 keeper and although the trade looks a little awkward...i dont think that i would veto it. depending on starting requirements, the team getting the two 4th and 5th in comming years will be able to fill his roster before the other teams. with keeping only 5 players there are alot of difference makers left to be drafted. the standard in our league has been basically a 2nd and 3rd in different years for moving into the 1st. often times someone will throw in a rb 3 that they will not be keeping. in my league you would be able to get a nice flex play in rd 4. if that helps any. i will try to look at my league and see who was going in rd 4 of a 7 keeper league. i know leshoure went in rd 3 last year and cobb rd 5. i usually am looking for a te in rd 4 in our league. with your team being a 16 team league that talent may not be there, but acquiring better low end talent may be to that teams advantage.

[joeday]

I play in a 4 player keeper league, and while that trade isn't something I would do, it's not as off base as if it was a full dynasty league rookie draft

[tstafford]

It's hard to say IMO so I surely wouldn't veto it. Remember with 16-teams, 5 keepers, the 1.04 pick is the 84th player off the board. This is going to be someone like a Mark Ingram or Alshon Jeffery or whatever. Not exactly a super stud.

[TommyL31]

Is there any different valuations to the rounds? For instance I play in a 4 keeper league where you can't keep anyone drafted in the first 3 rounds. That deflates the prices of the 3rd round picks and inflates the prices of the 4th round picks.

[will6779]

The last veto league i was in i had a great team and ran into rb injuries. When i tried to trade for ryan grant i was vetoed. I was giving witten and reggie wayne up for grant cause i was desperate and had the depth. A bit more than what grant was worth at the time but you gotta pay for rbs. Thats the last league i was in that the league voted on trades and unless i can get in a league with quality owners that are capable of running a team, its probably the last one i ever join. The leage folded last year mainly due to poor ownership, whiners that cant compete Your trade should not have been vetoed.

[pack4ever22]

In a keep 5 league i don't think that trade is anywhere close to deserving a veto

[Csl312]

I would say that if this were a full dynasty league (which I assume is what the first two responses thought, and just didn't notice it is a 16 team 5 keeper league) it would be a terrible trade. In your league though it is probably pretty fair though - like was mentioned earlier you lose out on a chance at some of the players who were not keepers, but you probably can stock up more on guys with possibly a higher ceieling that other owners are letting slide.

I am curiouse though - how do you realdy know what the overall pick number a 2015 4th is going to be?



PS - This thread should probably be in the keeper league section of the forums.

[BPP]

In a keep 5 league i don't think that trade is anywhere close to deserving a veto

This is true; I think I'd rather have the 3 picks.

[TheOracle]

In a keep 5 league i don't think that trade is anywhere close to deserving a veto

Agreed. I've played in a keep 6 league and a trade like that happened about once a year.

For what it's worth, the 1.04 is probably still Lacy/Bernard/Patterson/Austin as opposed to a retread-type guy.

[Krang]

I would say that if this were a full dynasty league (which I assume is what the first two responses thought, and just didn't notice it is a 16 team 5 keeper league) it would be a terrible trade. In your league though it is probably pretty fair though - like was mentioned earlier you lose out on a chance at some of the players who were not keepers, but you probably can stock up more on guys with possibly a higher ceieling that other owners are letting slide.

I am curiouse though - how do you realdy know what the overall pick number a 2015 4th is going to be?



PS - This thread should probably be in the keeper league section of the forums.

Yep, missed that part.

[whatadai]

Horrible trade, but was it collusion?

[sloth8u]

Horrible trade, but was it collusion?

without seeing the rosters or starting requirements, i dont see how you can call this horrible. it is not mentioned whether or not the owner giving up 1.4 has another 1st, or their roster for that matter. i think it is safe to assume they could use the 1.4, unless they have acquired it, but in the keep 7 i play in, someone every year is trading their top 5 1st for a 2nd and 3rd. i myself would not make the move, but could see how someone may choose to do so. the 2 years ive played in the keep 7, i have drafted te in rds 4, 5, and 6 with the intention of having 1 and trading the other 2 for 3rd or 4th rd selections. in keeper leagues the league is often won in the 3-7 rds. obviously there are some weak teams that wont compete, but for the competitive teams chasing the championship these rds are very important and the sooner you can fill your roster, the better.