The toughest deals to make (young developmental guys)

[hamburglar]

So I think for me the toughest deal to make involve unproven young developmental players... I've had people in various leagues inquire about the availability of Nick Foles, AJ Jenkins and Isiah Pead recently.

The issue is that I can't rightfully ask for anything super awesome in return... so at the end of the day why even deal them? How do other people handle this issue? I mean it just seems like the only way these deals get made is with teams that are fed up with those guys... in each case i have them on 30 plus man rosters and im content to stash them...

in foles case in particular its tough because i am an eagles fan... and even though in both leagues i have him im SET at QB (Hollywood Hmaburglars and Los Pollos Hermanos in sig) how can i give up a potential future signal caller for my fave team?

[ericanadian]

I picked up Pead and Jenkins off waivers, so that pretty much sums up how people are handling it.

[cannoncruz]

I set my trading block with only guys I absolutely want to move and then leave a message that you always appreciate inquiries and proposals, but are not really looking to move anyone not listed on yout trading block.

it never hurts to talk about a trade, but at least that gives you an easy out.

[balaberda]

Usually they are only toss-ins to make a bigger trade happen.

[thriftyrocker]

You should be able to get a 1st for Foles in a 2QB league, and at that price it might be worth selling him. Depends on how confident you are.

I've offered Pierre Thomas for Pead and gotten shot down. I think you can ask for a decent RB4 or WR4 if they have someone you like.

If they're asking you to set a price, you're free to set a high price.

[MR ROURKE]

It all depends on your view of the player. If you believe in them, then keep them. If you don't have a strong feeling about the player, then deal them to get something you do.

I would be dealing Foles for sure while you can with a new coaching staff likely coming in.

[CokeAndBacardi]

You should be able to get a 1st for Foles in a 2QB league, and at that price it might be worth selling him. Depends on how confident you are.

I've offered Pierre Thomas for Pead and gotten shot down. I think you can ask for a decent RB4 or WR4 if they have someone you like.

If they're asking you to set a price, you're free to set a high price.

If someone gets a first for Foles in any format, I am calling 911.

To the OP - There's nothing wrong with a stash on a large roster. You draft those guys to wait on them. Unless they're in a larger deal for an established player, why bother? As an owner rebuilding in one league, I often look for seemingly insignificant players like the ones you list when dealing veterans to contenders.

[thriftyrocker]

I don't think you can sell for a 2nd at this point. He's a young QB and he's starting. What QBs coming out next year are better other than Geno and Barkley?

[Chris_R]

You should be able to get a 1st for Foles in a 2QB league, and at that price it might be worth selling him. Depends on how confident you are.

I've offered Pierre Thomas for Pead and gotten shot down. I think you can ask for a decent RB4 or WR4 if they have someone you like.

If they're asking you to set a price, you're free to set a high price.

If someone gets a first for Foles in any format, I am calling 911.

You could say it's a cheap price to get a young starting QB in a 2QB league for only a first. Not everybody has one all the time, especially with injuries striking. In my league there are always times when a team has an injury to one of his QB and has no chance at winning without a second. I'm also not high on Foles myself, but he could be the next franchise guy, even if it's short lived. He cost more then a 1st in our format for sure.

[oppy]

You should be able to get a 1st for Foles in a 2QB league, and at that price it might be worth selling him. Depends on how confident you are.

I've offered Pierre Thomas for Pead and gotten shot down. I think you can ask for a decent RB4 or WR4 if they have someone you like.

If they're asking you to set a price, you're free to set a high price.

If someone gets a first for Foles in any format, I am calling 911.

To the OP - There's nothing wrong with a stash on a large roster. You draft those guys to wait on them. Unless they're in a larger deal for an established player, why bother? As an owner rebuilding in one league, I often look for seemingly insignificant players like the ones you list when dealing veterans to contenders.

Well I'm in 1 QB league and the guy with Foles won't trade him straight up for Miles Austin. I'm not sure how that compares to a 1st but it's probably worth one in many leagues.

[whatadai]

You should be able to get a 1st for Foles in a 2QB league, and at that price it might be worth selling him. Depends on how confident you are.

I've offered Pierre Thomas for Pead and gotten shot down. I think you can ask for a decent RB4 or WR4 if they have someone you like.

If they're asking you to set a price, you're free to set a high price.

If someone gets a first for Foles in any format, I am calling 911.

To the OP - There's nothing wrong with a stash on a large roster. You draft those guys to wait on them. Unless they're in a larger deal for an established player, why bother? As an owner rebuilding in one league, I often look for seemingly insignificant players like the ones you list when dealing veterans to contenders.

Well I'm in 1 QB league and the guy with Foles won't trade him straight up for Miles Austin. I'm not sure how that compares to a 1st but it's probably worth one in many leagues.

Wouldn't give up Foles for Austin? WTH? You can't use a retarded owner as an example of current value on a player.

[jlasaf2007]

If someone gets a first for Foles in any format, I am calling 911.

To the OP - There's nothing wrong with a stash on a large roster. You draft those guys to wait on them. Unless they're in a larger deal for an established player, why bother? As an owner rebuilding in one league, I often look for seemingly insignificant players like the ones you list when dealing veterans to contenders.

Well I'm in 1 QB league and the guy with Foles won't trade him straight up for Miles Austin. I'm not sure how that compares to a 1st but it's probably worth one in many leagues.

Wouldn't give up Foles for Austin? WTH? You can't use a retarded owner as an example of current value on a player.

Looks like it's split...some high on Foles, some low on him. It doesn't look like it's just 1 owner; and they might think you are retarded for trading a WR aged beyond his years for a QB just getting his shot.

For the OP, I feel your pain. In one of my leagues, we trim our roster from 23 down to 15 before the rookie/FA draft. Most of the other owners have a few studs, then weak a couple mediocre, and not much as far as prospects go. They will be struggling to figure out the last 5 guys to keep (I'm guessing most of them keep their D/ST just because the rest of their rosters are pretty yucky). I wouldn't say I have a stacked team, but I think it's solid from top to bottom. I've got 16 legitimate guys I'd feel good about keeping right now, and figuring out which one to drop will be difficult.

My hope is that before our roster trim deadline, I'll be able to package together a few of these guys for a better player. This kind of goes along with what some others have said....maybe don't try to trade the prospect guys straight up, but package a few together (or with a better player) to try and get a better deal.

[DYNOmite]

I picked up Pead and Jenkins off waivers, so that pretty much sums up how people are handling it.

That's just crazy. I don't understand while people even draft players if they aren't even going to give them a season to develop.

[thriftyrocker]

I picked up Pead and Jenkins off waivers, so that pretty much sums up how people are handling it.

That's just crazy. I don't understand while people even draft players if they aren't even going to give them a season to develop.

Depends on the format. I'm high enough on Pead but when he was dropped in my 10x23 I didn't even claim him. Would have to drop someone getting carries to do it. And AJ Jenkins? Guys like Shorts and Givens are still on waivers here, so there's no reason to hold long term. But in every other league, the strategy changes dramatically and I'd drop my whole waiver budget for a guy like Pead.

[hamburglar]

i picked up pead off waiver in one league (35 man rosters) cannot believe someone cut him in a league with rosters that big. I also got Lamichael James in TWO league off waivers (one league 35 man rosters- once again I was stunned... the other league is 19 man rosters with mandatory backups at every position) I understood the owner dropping him in the smaller roster size league more.. but I still was quick to scoop him up.