Took over an orphan, any advice?

[ekilla183]

12 Team SF, WB/RB/WR/TE/4Flex/SF

Team:
QB: Lamar, Hooker, Heinicke
RB: Breece, Swift, Pacheco, BRob (WAS), Gibson, Perine, Foreman
WR: Diggs, Evans, Pickens, M Wilson, Sutton, Duvernay, Mooney, Palmer, Tillman
TE: Andrews, Everett

2024 picks: 3.07, 4.03, 4.06, 4.07
2025 picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 2 4ths

My previous experience is only 10 team single QB, so definitely a rookie when it comes to SF.

That being said, in the past I’ve liked to build out with young stud WR first, then worry about RB later and this build is a little opposite that which is throwing me for a loop. Also QB is a dumpster fire other than Lamar.

Any thoughts or advice on how you’d handle this team? Thanks!

[ElijahGemstone]

12 Team SF, WB/RB/WR/TE/4Flex/SF

Team:
QB: Lamar, Hooker, Heinicke
RB: Breece, Swift, Pacheco, BRob (WAS), Gibson, Perine, Foreman
WR: Diggs, Evans, Pickens, M Wilson, Sutton, Duvernay, Mooney, Palmer, Tillman
TE: Andrews, Everett

2024 picks: 3.07, 4.03, 4.06, 4.07
2025 picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 2 4ths

My previous experience is only 10 team single QB, so definitely a rookie when it comes to SF.

That being said, in the past I’ve liked to build out with young stud WR first, then worry about RB later and this build is a little opposite that which is throwing me for a loop. Also QB is a dumpster fire other than Lamar.

Any thoughts or advice on how you’d handle this team? Thanks!

Any other teams with multiple 1st rounders? It would be awesome to try and trade Lamar for a few picks...Maybe snag one of the young QBs and WRs.....I think you definitely need another QB ( I know you know that) Maybe move Andrews for a late first and second if you can? That's where I'd start! I'd try to keep Breece but honestly everyone else is on the block for me.

[NathanielWegman]

Yeah I’m keeping Breece. Everyone else is available. I would take something built around an early 1st, along with another first or early 2nd for Lamar just to add depth and snag up a rookie at QB and WR.

I’d try to find a RB needy team, probably a contender and ship out a RB, trying to get into the first round somehow

[ekilla183]

12 Team SF, WB/RB/WR/TE/4Flex/SF

Team:
QB: Lamar, Hooker, Heinicke
RB: Breece, Swift, Pacheco, BRob (WAS), Gibson, Perine, Foreman
WR: Diggs, Evans, Pickens, M Wilson, Sutton, Duvernay, Mooney, Palmer, Tillman
TE: Andrews, Everett

2024 picks: 3.07, 4.03, 4.06, 4.07
2025 picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 2 4ths

My previous experience is only 10 team single QB, so definitely a rookie when it comes to SF.

That being said, in the past I’ve liked to build out with young stud WR first, then worry about RB later and this build is a little opposite that which is throwing me for a loop. Also QB is a dumpster fire other than Lamar.

Any thoughts or advice on how you’d handle this team? Thanks!

Any other teams with multiple 1st rounders? It would be awesome to try and trade Lamar for a few picks...Maybe snag one of the young QBs and WRs.....I think you definitely need another QB ( I know you know that) Maybe move Andrews for a late first and second if you can? That's where I'd start! I'd try to keep Breece but honestly everyone else is on the block for me.

Appreciate the responses!
Any thoughts on this? I have a good rapport with an owner that I’m also in another league with and this trade should put him in contention and give me some young depth

Give: Lamar, Andrews
Receive: 1.07, 1.08, 2025 first (likely late), Engram

Again, new to SF. Value checks out on KTC but that can get screwy at times.

[UsualSuspects]

Don’t hate it but I would try to see if you can get a bit more back. If he’s contending maybe getting an additional 2nd or 2 2nds back on top.

That trade probably nets you Worthy and Thomas Jr in this years draft along with Engram and the 2025 1st.

None of what you’re getting back nets you a qb.

If I’m giving up Lamar and have no shot at a qb I need lots of youth coming back.

[moishetreats]

I'm going to throw something else out there: are you open to a longer rebuild? I like the idea of two firsts this year and one next year for Lamar, and I'm also with UsualSuspects that it's not quite enough (especially with neither 1st being early).

I asked at the beginning, though, because 2025 and 2026 picks are probably going to be cheaper now through August than ever. If you trade Lamar for the picks you mentioned, you still won't have a championship caliber team. More depth, but your WRs will still be aging and QB room will be essentially empty. If you focus on 2025 and 2026 picks, then you should be able to get more value then (e.g., two 1sts in 2025 and two 1sts in 2026). Do the same with your other vets and players, and you could have nearly two full drafts of equity. Of course, that would delay your competitive window, but then it would be wiiiiiiide open for a number of years.

Finally, I love Hall. Love, love, love. And he's a must-trade. Odds are that you're not likely to win a 'ship this year or next, and his value is as high as it can get right now.

[TheTroll]

I'm going to throw something else out there: are you open to a longer rebuild? I like the idea of two firsts this year and one next year for Lamar, and I'm also with UsualSuspects that it's not quite enough (especially with neither 1st being early).

I asked at the beginning, though, because 2025 and 2026 picks are probably going to be cheaper now through August than ever. If you trade Lamar for the picks you mentioned, you still won't have a championship caliber team. More depth, but your WRs will still be aging and QB room will be essentially empty. If you focus on 2025 and 2026 picks, then you should be able to get more value then (e.g., two 1sts in 2025 and two 1sts in 2026). Do the same with your other vets and players, and you could have nearly two full drafts of equity. Of course, that would delay your competitive window, but then it would be wiiiiiiide open for a number of years.

Finally, I love Hall. Love, love, love. And he's a must-trade. Odds are that you're not likely to win a 'ship this year or next, and his value is as high as it can get right now.

For sure on the trading Hall part! Get started early!

[abloom]

12 Team SF, WB/RB/WR/TE/4Flex/SF

I'm assuming this is supposed to be:
1qb
1rb
1wr
1te
4 flex
1 SF

A flex heavy format means that when I build I want to stress wr and QB.

Team:
QB: Lamar, Hooker, Heinicke
Lamar is a good qb1. You need to get a qb2, if competing you can get a Mayfield, Rodgers, Russ, or cousins as cheap options. If rebuild is move Lamar.


RB: Breece, Swift, Pacheco, BRob (WAS), Gibson, Perine, Foreman
Good RB group for must start 1. Definitely looks competitive

WR: Diggs, Evans, Pickens, M Wilson, Sutton, Duvernay, Mooney, Palmer, Tillman
Definitely a contenders wr group. These guys are rapidly losing value but should put up numbers. I'd be willing to put diggs on the block right now.

TE: Andrews, Everett
Awesome

2024 picks: 3.07, 4.03, 4.06, 4.07
3.07 can get you someone interesting I think, maybe 4.03. the others are dart throws but still in a decent range.

2025 picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 2 4ths
Keep your first.

My previous experience is only 10 team single QB, so definitely a rookie when it comes to SF.

That being said, in the past I’ve liked to build out with young stud WR first, then worry about RB later and this build is a little opposite that which is throwing me for a loop. Also QB is a dumpster fire other than Lamar.

Any thoughts or advice on how you’d handle this team? Thanks!

Build around QBs and wrs. Your team is in a weird spot, you can contend but are likely not a clear championship contender.
You have some nice vet pieces but getting value from those are sometimes hard.

My suggestion: id try tearing it down but do it smart.

First guy to move: Diggs

Second guy to move: Hall

Third guy to move: Lamar

If you can make some moves before the rookie draft I really like that.

Diggs you're looking at an early to mid second, but I'd start by looking at the true contenders and offer diggs for their 2025 first, especially to a team that may be weaker at wr.

Hall you're looking at an early first (2024) or two mid firsts. If you can get the 1.05+1.06 that would be great to me. Of course that requires a team to have two picks there.

Otherwise I'm looking for a top 6 pick plus a young wr/QB

Finally Lamar, basically looking for 3 firsts value, even more if not receiving a QB back.


Once those three players are moved, I'm selling the rest of your rbs, wrs, and maybe even Andrews.

[Viking386]

12 Team SF, WB/RB/WR/TE/4Flex/SF

I'm assuming this is supposed to be:
1qb
1rb
1wr
1te
4 flex
1 SF

A flex heavy format means that when I build I want to stress wr and QB.

Team:
QB: Lamar, Hooker, Heinicke
Lamar is a good qb1. You need to get a qb2, if competing you can get a Mayfield, Rodgers, Russ, or cousins as cheap options. If rebuild is move Lamar.


RB: Breece, Swift, Pacheco, BRob (WAS), Gibson, Perine, Foreman
Good RB group for must start 1. Definitely looks competitive

WR: Diggs, Evans, Pickens, M Wilson, Sutton, Duvernay, Mooney, Palmer, Tillman
Definitely a contenders wr group. These guys are rapidly losing value but should put up numbers. I'd be willing to put diggs on the block right now.

TE: Andrews, Everett
Awesome

2024 picks: 3.07, 4.03, 4.06, 4.07
3.07 can get you someone interesting I think, maybe 4.03. the others are dart throws but still in a decent range.

2025 picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 2 4ths
Keep your first.

My previous experience is only 10 team single QB, so definitely a rookie when it comes to SF.

That being said, in the past I’ve liked to build out with young stud WR first, then worry about RB later and this build is a little opposite that which is throwing me for a loop. Also QB is a dumpster fire other than Lamar.

Any thoughts or advice on how you’d handle this team? Thanks!

Build around QBs and wrs. Your team is in a weird spot, you can contend but are likely not a clear championship contender.
You have some nice vet pieces but getting value from those are sometimes hard.

My suggestion: id try tearing it down but do it smart.

First guy to move: Diggs

Second guy to move: Hall

Third guy to move: Lamar

If you can make some moves before the rookie draft I really like that.

Diggs you're looking at an early to mid second, but I'd start by looking at the true contenders and offer diggs for their 2025 first, especially to a team that may be weaker at wr.

Hall you're looking at an early first (2024) or two mid firsts. If you can get the 1.05+1.06 that would be great to me. Of course that requires a team to have two picks there.

Otherwise I'm looking for a top 6 pick plus a young wr/QB

Finally Lamar, basically looking for 3 firsts value, even more if not receiving a QB back.


Once those three players are moved, I'm selling the rest of your rbs, wrs, and maybe even Andrews.

This is an awesome break down. The only thing Id add is your probably better off waiting till in season to trade guys like Diggs and Evans. I think once teams begin to really make that push 25 1sts will come for them. Id be putting Hall on the block now. Outside of Lamar he will draw the most interest.

For a lot of my teams in which Im blowing up and needing picks I have been targeting younger QBs who the community is down on. The Levis and the Youngs. I traded Lamar for Levis, 1.03 and a 25 1st. I landed Daniels with that 1.03.

[abloom]

12 Team SF, WB/RB/WR/TE/4Flex/SF

I'm assuming this is supposed to be:
1qb
1rb
1wr
1te
4 flex
1 SF

A flex heavy format means that when I build I want to stress wr and QB.

Team:
QB: Lamar, Hooker, Heinicke
Lamar is a good qb1. You need to get a qb2, if competing you can get a Mayfield, Rodgers, Russ, or cousins as cheap options. If rebuild is move Lamar.


RB: Breece, Swift, Pacheco, BRob (WAS), Gibson, Perine, Foreman
Good RB group for must start 1. Definitely looks competitive

WR: Diggs, Evans, Pickens, M Wilson, Sutton, Duvernay, Mooney, Palmer, Tillman
Definitely a contenders wr group. These guys are rapidly losing value but should put up numbers. I'd be willing to put diggs on the block right now.

TE: Andrews, Everett
Awesome

2024 picks: 3.07, 4.03, 4.06, 4.07
3.07 can get you someone interesting I think, maybe 4.03. the others are dart throws but still in a decent range.

2025 picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 2 4ths
Keep your first.

My previous experience is only 10 team single QB, so definitely a rookie when it comes to SF.

That being said, in the past I’ve liked to build out with young stud WR first, then worry about RB later and this build is a little opposite that which is throwing me for a loop. Also QB is a dumpster fire other than Lamar.

Any thoughts or advice on how you’d handle this team? Thanks!

Build around QBs and wrs. Your team is in a weird spot, you can contend but are likely not a clear championship contender.
You have some nice vet pieces but getting value from those are sometimes hard.

My suggestion: id try tearing it down but do it smart.

First guy to move: Diggs

Second guy to move: Hall

Third guy to move: Lamar

If you can make some moves before the rookie draft I really like that.

Diggs you're looking at an early to mid second, but I'd start by looking at the true contenders and offer diggs for their 2025 first, especially to a team that may be weaker at wr.

Hall you're looking at an early first (2024) or two mid firsts. If you can get the 1.05+1.06 that would be great to me. Of course that requires a team to have two picks there.

Otherwise I'm looking for a top 6 pick plus a young wr/QB

Finally Lamar, basically looking for 3 firsts value, even more if not receiving a QB back.


Once those three players are moved, I'm selling the rest of your rbs, wrs, and maybe even Andrews.

This is an awesome break down. The only thing Id add is your probably better off waiting till in season to trade guys like Diggs and Evans. I think once teams begin to really make that push 25 1sts will come for them. Id be putting Hall on the block now. Outside of Lamar he will draw the most interest.

For a lot of my teams in which Im blowing up and needing picks I have been targeting younger QBs who the community is down on. The Levis and the Youngs. I traded Lamar for Levis, 1.03 and a 25 1st. I landed Daniels with that 1.03.

Diggs I think you want to move now. Let the hype that is the trade to a Stroud led offense sell him. Vet wrs on new teams and 2nd year QBs don't have great track records. Plus there is still a chance to get 2024 draft capital for him.

All the rest can be moved closer to the season, but diggs and hall should be moved sooner if possible.