Take MHJ over Caleb at 1.01 with this roster and trade-averse league?

This is the place for team advice - should I make this trade, should I draft that player, etc.

What would you do with the 1.01 in this specific situation?

Caleb Williams, "No Matter What"
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Marvin Harrison Jr.
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Take MHJ over Caleb at 1.01 with this roster and trade-averse league?

Postby Lehigh98 » Tue Apr 30, 2024 10:45 am

Question pertains to Team 1 in my signature.
Superflex league and I already have Burrow, Herbert, Richardson, and Jayden Daniels (from devy) at QB.

Unfortunately, the league is pretty trade averse. I've been trying to get teams to trade a top 10 WR to bolster my WR corps but everyone is either holding or asking for the moon. I've been trying to move a QB for a top 5 WR but everything has been rejected or countered with offers like a late 1st for those QBs.

If I take Caleb, I'll have 5 QB's for 2 QB slots and it looks like no one will offer fair value or give up a top WR.

In this specific case, would you still go Caleb and sit on a bunch of QB's or go MHJ and get that top WR here?

TIA!
Last edited by Lehigh98 on Tue Apr 30, 2024 12:19 pm, edited 1 time in total.
TEAM 1
Best Ball, Superflex, Devy, 1.0 PPR w/ TEP 2.0 PPR
Start 1QB, 1RB, 1WR, 1TE, 1SF, 5 Flex
QB- Burrow, Herbert, Richardson, Daniels, Browning, Rudolph / Allar
RB- Bijan, JT, R White, Swift, Javonte, Roschon, Shipley / Singleton, D Edwards, Etienne
WR- Chase, Olave, Pittman, Addison, Jeudy, Mims, QJ, Hyatt, E Moore / Egbuka
TE- Kincaid, Pitts, Kelce, Mayer, Otton, Dulcich, Higgins
2024: 1.01, 3.05, 3.08, 3.21

TEAM 2
Best Ball, Superflex, 0.5 PPR w/ TEP 1.0 PPR
Start 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1SF, 3 Flex
QB- Hurts, Murray, Howell, Brissett, Hooker, Pickett
RB- Javonte, Najee
WR- Devonta, Pittman, Odunze, Lockett
TE- Bowers, Engram, Otton, Bellinger
2024: 2.01, 2.04, 2.07, 3.01, 3.08, 4.06, 4.07, 4.12

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Re: Take MHJ over Caleb at 1.01 with this roster and trade-averse league?

Postby Mtt33 » Tue Apr 30, 2024 10:58 am

I might be having a tired moment, if the draft hasn’t happened yet who’s Daniels?

don’t love passing up value because I think Caleb is the pick pretty easily, but in this case if nobody trades I think it’s fine to go Harrison

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Re: Take MHJ over Caleb at 1.01 with this roster and trade-averse league?

Postby Menace2010 » Tue Apr 30, 2024 11:55 am

I'm fine going MHJr if you're set at QB. You've got 3 quality options already...

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Re: Take MHJ over Caleb at 1.01 with this roster and trade-averse league?

Postby henry1jg » Tue Apr 30, 2024 11:59 am

MHJ is a perfectly fine option at 1.01 imo
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Re: Take MHJ over Caleb at 1.01 with this roster and trade-averse league?

Postby Lehigh98 » Tue Apr 30, 2024 12:14 pm

Mtt33 wrote: Tue Apr 30, 2024 10:58 am I might be having a tired moment, if the draft hasn’t happened yet who’s Daniels?
Jayden Daniels

Yeah, sorry, it's a 24 team, 2-copy devy league that usually complicates things more than it needs to if I mention it. The values for a 24 team, 2-copy league are very similar to a 12-team league so I just don't normally mention it. Only one copy can be picked while the player is in college, which saves one copy of each player for the rookie draft so it's not depleted.
TEAM 1
Best Ball, Superflex, Devy, 1.0 PPR w/ TEP 2.0 PPR
Start 1QB, 1RB, 1WR, 1TE, 1SF, 5 Flex
QB- Burrow, Herbert, Richardson, Daniels, Browning, Rudolph / Allar
RB- Bijan, JT, R White, Swift, Javonte, Roschon, Shipley / Singleton, D Edwards, Etienne
WR- Chase, Olave, Pittman, Addison, Jeudy, Mims, QJ, Hyatt, E Moore / Egbuka
TE- Kincaid, Pitts, Kelce, Mayer, Otton, Dulcich, Higgins
2024: 1.01, 3.05, 3.08, 3.21

TEAM 2
Best Ball, Superflex, 0.5 PPR w/ TEP 1.0 PPR
Start 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1SF, 3 Flex
QB- Hurts, Murray, Howell, Brissett, Hooker, Pickett
RB- Javonte, Najee
WR- Devonta, Pittman, Odunze, Lockett
TE- Bowers, Engram, Otton, Bellinger
2024: 2.01, 2.04, 2.07, 3.01, 3.08, 4.06, 4.07, 4.12

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Re: Take MHJ over Caleb at 1.01 with this roster and trade-averse league?

Postby Viking386 » Tue Apr 30, 2024 12:41 pm

Give me Marvin here
Main Home League
12 Team 1 QB PPR
-Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE and 2 Flex

QB: Anthony Richardson, Sam Darnold
RB: Nobody worth mentioning
WR: Justin Jefferson, ARSB, Olave, Nico Collins, Tyquan Thornton, Marvin Mims, Tre Tucker, Bell, Austin,
TE: McBride and Dulcich

Draft Picks
-1.02, 3.01 and 4 24 4ths.
-3 25 1sts, 1 25 2nd, 3 25 3rds and 3 25 4ths
-2 26 1sts, 2 26 2nds, 1 26 3rd, and1 26 4th

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Re: Take MHJ over Caleb at 1.01 with this roster and trade-averse league?

Postby pmart33 » Tue Apr 30, 2024 12:51 pm

Take Harrison Jr. then. You know your league better than we ever will. Do what you have to do to make your team better in your specific league rather than worrying about taking the guy who "should" go #1. Unfortunate that your league isn't active on the trade market.

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Re: Take MHJ over Caleb at 1.01 with this roster and trade-averse league?

Postby moishetreats » Tue Apr 30, 2024 1:43 pm

In a trade-averse league, I'm actually more committed to getting the QB. It would sooooo hard to ever find good (let alone great) QB play without much trading, and I'd be willing to completely stock up at that position. I know you have four young QBs already, but you might never get the chance to add someone like Caleb again.

I'm even more into Caleb given your league settings. You start 1RB, 1WR, and 1TE with 5 flex. That gives you so much more opportunity to find a starter-worthy player at one of those positions. So that devalues RB and WR for me. Plus, with it begin 2PPR for TEs, you're likely starting three TEs every week on your team meaning Harrison is likely on your bench now, too.

TL;DR -- If getting a QB through trade is nearly impossible, then I'm taking a stab at elite QB whenever I get the rare (and relatively inexpensive) way of doing it. Other positions are easier to fill given the big flex and 2PPR for TE format.
10 tms 27 plrs PPR
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball

QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble

2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th



12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball

QB: Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Mitchell ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), E Moore ('25), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $102

IR: --
TAXI SQUAD (4 max): --

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Re: Take MHJ over Caleb at 1.01 with this roster and trade-averse league?

Postby abloom » Tue Apr 30, 2024 1:45 pm

How many teams?
Tm 1
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler, T tracey
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert, T johnson
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Tm 2
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 TE), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: Murray, Watson, Maye, McCarthy, R Wilson, howell
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus, Moss, Zeke,
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts, t Johnson, bell
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Tm 3
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2 TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Stafford, heinekie, flacco, browning
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Charb, Z White, R white, McLaughlin, wilson
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, watson
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Tm 4
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01

Tm 5
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009

Tm 6
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07

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Re: Take MHJ over Caleb at 1.01 with this roster and trade-averse league?

Postby Menace2010 » Tue Apr 30, 2024 1:57 pm

Our OP has four tip 12-15 QBs Burrow, Herbert, Richardson, and Jayden Daniels. Like, what's he doing with Caleb if he can't trade? MHJr immediately slots into the startup line-up.

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Re: Take MHJ over Caleb at 1.01 with this roster and trade-averse league?

Postby Lehigh98 » Tue Apr 30, 2024 1:58 pm

abloom wrote: Tue Apr 30, 2024 1:45 pm How many teams?
It's a 24 team, 2-copy devy league, that usually complicates things more than it needs to if I mention it. The values for a 24 team, 2-copy league are very similar to a 12-team league so I just don't normally mention it. Only one copy can be picked while the player is in college, which saves one copy of each player for the rookie draft so it's not depleted.
TEAM 1
Best Ball, Superflex, Devy, 1.0 PPR w/ TEP 2.0 PPR
Start 1QB, 1RB, 1WR, 1TE, 1SF, 5 Flex
QB- Burrow, Herbert, Richardson, Daniels, Browning, Rudolph / Allar
RB- Bijan, JT, R White, Swift, Javonte, Roschon, Shipley / Singleton, D Edwards, Etienne
WR- Chase, Olave, Pittman, Addison, Jeudy, Mims, QJ, Hyatt, E Moore / Egbuka
TE- Kincaid, Pitts, Kelce, Mayer, Otton, Dulcich, Higgins
2024: 1.01, 3.05, 3.08, 3.21

TEAM 2
Best Ball, Superflex, 0.5 PPR w/ TEP 1.0 PPR
Start 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1SF, 3 Flex
QB- Hurts, Murray, Howell, Brissett, Hooker, Pickett
RB- Javonte, Najee
WR- Devonta, Pittman, Odunze, Lockett
TE- Bowers, Engram, Otton, Bellinger
2024: 2.01, 2.04, 2.07, 3.01, 3.08, 4.06, 4.07, 4.12

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Re: Take MHJ over Caleb at 1.01 with this roster and trade-averse league?

Postby TheTroll » Tue Apr 30, 2024 2:02 pm

Mtt33 wrote: Tue Apr 30, 2024 10:58 am I might be having a tired moment, if the draft hasn’t happened yet who’s Daniels?

don’t love passing up value because I think Caleb is the pick pretty easily, but in this case if nobody trades I think it’s fine to go Harrison
Devy. With striking gold there, go WR
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def

QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE

Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker

Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex

QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert

Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn

Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: Take MHJ over Caleb at 1.01 with this roster and trade-averse league?

Postby wickerkat1212 » Tue Apr 30, 2024 2:52 pm

I have no issues taking Harrison here.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, BENSON (R), Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, POLK (R), CORLEY (R), COWING (R), Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, TJOHNSON (R), Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield, RATTLER (R) RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Mostert, BRob, ESTIME (R) WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Lockett, Myers, COWING (R), MWASHINGTON (R) TE—Kmet, Kraft, SANDERS (R), Conklin, Hurst PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: MAYE (R), Goff, Cousins, PENIX (R), Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: HARRISON (R), DJM, Higgins, JSN, BTHOMAS (R), Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, DPJ, Devante TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Take MHJ over Caleb at 1.01 with this roster and trade-averse league?

Postby abloom » Tue Apr 30, 2024 2:59 pm

Lehigh98 wrote: Tue Apr 30, 2024 1:58 pm
abloom wrote: Tue Apr 30, 2024 1:45 pm How many teams?
It's a 24 team, 2-copy devy league, that usually complicates things more than it needs to if I mention it. The values for a 24 team, 2-copy league are very similar to a 12-team league so I just don't normally mention it. Only one copy can be picked while the player is in college, which saves one copy of each player for the rookie draft so it's not depleted.
That's a best way of doing devy.

MJH for me is fine in a two copy best ball
Tm 1
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler, T tracey
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert, T johnson
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Tm 2
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 TE), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: Murray, Watson, Maye, McCarthy, R Wilson, howell
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus, Moss, Zeke,
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts, t Johnson, bell
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Tm 3
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2 TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Stafford, heinekie, flacco, browning
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Charb, Z White, R white, McLaughlin, wilson
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, watson
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Tm 4
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01

Tm 5
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009

Tm 6
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07


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