Kamara Value

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Kamara Value

Postby Menace2010 » Mon Apr 29, 2024 3:58 pm

16 Team, 1QB, Full IDP League

I'm a contender, and Kamara is my RB2. This seems like the last possible sell window. Do I take 1.14 and 2.14 or ride him into the ground?

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Re: Kamara Value

Postby TheTroll » Mon Apr 29, 2024 4:25 pm

Keep him and ride it out. Worth way more to you than anything you could possibly trade him for
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def

QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE

Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker

Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex

QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert

Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn

Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: Kamara Value

Postby Big Al » Mon Apr 29, 2024 5:07 pm

TheTroll wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 4:25 pm Keep him and ride it out. Worth way more to you than anything you could possibly trade him for
As an owner, I tend to agree with this advice.

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Re: Kamara Value

Postby moishetreats » Tue Apr 30, 2024 7:25 am

If you're rebuilding, I don't think you'd get a better offer, and I'd pretty happily take this.

If you're competing, I'd still consider this depending on your RB depth. Odds are that 1.14 is a pretty sweet spot for rookie RBs who, starting in 2025, could have a meaningful workload. This would be a great way to reset the clock. But, if you're only real roster hole is the RB position behind Kamara, then I could see holding him here since the dropoff would be pretty steep.
10 tms 27 plrs PPR
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball

QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble

2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th



12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball

QB: Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Mitchell ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), E Moore ('25), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $102

IR: --
TAXI SQUAD (4 max): --

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Re: Kamara Value

Postby pmart33 » Tue Apr 30, 2024 8:16 am

If that's the best you can do I'd hang on to Kamara if you need the points he'll give you in 2024. If your season doesn't go as planned and he's productive there is going to be an in season sell window for you. But if you're in it to win it this year you leave the value on the table and go for a championship.

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Re: Kamara Value

Postby moishetreats » Tue Apr 30, 2024 8:23 am

pmart33 wrote: Tue Apr 30, 2024 8:16 am If that's the best you can do I'd hang on to Kamara if you need the points he'll give you in 2024. If your season doesn't go as planned and he's productive there is going to be an in season sell window for you. But if you're in it to win it this year you leave the value on the table and go for a championship.
I don't see a realistic universe in which Kamara is *so* productive in-season that you'd ever get a better offer than what is on the table now. And I see a VERY realistic universe in which Kamara's fantasy production takes a huge hit (see Austin Ekeler). In Kamara's case, I think waiting and anticipating an in-season offer anything like this is far too risky.

If we're talking about, say, CMC or D Henry, I could see it. I'm far more confident that both will either have production or, if not, there will still be realistic hope of production that someone might buy into. But for Kamara, I think his value could very easily bottom out -- and I think this offer is already priced at his ceiling. I have a hard time passing up this kind of value in April.
10 tms 27 plrs PPR
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball

QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble

2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th



12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball

QB: Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Mitchell ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), E Moore ('25), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $102

IR: --
TAXI SQUAD (4 max): --

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Re: Kamara Value

Postby Menace2010 » Tue Apr 30, 2024 11:44 am

Agree this is max value, which is why I considered it... but I think I and others above have talked me out of it. Having a zero in my RB2 spot this season would kill me. My RB3 is AJ Dillon.

If I trade him now, I'm essentially retooling, but have a nice mix of assets (young and old) at every other position. In 16 team leagues, descent RBs are really tough to acquire with mandatory 2RB starting requirements. Think I gotta take one last shot at winning, and deal with the consequences if I don't next year when there will hopefully be better options in the draft.

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Re: Kamara Value

Postby pmart33 » Tue Apr 30, 2024 11:50 am

moishetreats wrote: Tue Apr 30, 2024 8:23 am
pmart33 wrote: Tue Apr 30, 2024 8:16 am If that's the best you can do I'd hang on to Kamara if you need the points he'll give you in 2024. If your season doesn't go as planned and he's productive there is going to be an in season sell window for you. But if you're in it to win it this year you leave the value on the table and go for a championship.
I don't see a realistic universe in which Kamara is *so* productive in-season that you'd ever get a better offer than what is on the table now. And I see a VERY realistic universe in which Kamara's fantasy production takes a huge hit (see Austin Ekeler). In Kamara's case, I think waiting and anticipating an in-season offer anything like this is far too risky.

If we're talking about, say, CMC or D Henry, I could see it. I'm far more confident that both will either have production or, if not, there will still be realistic hope of production that someone might buy into. But for Kamara, I think his value could very easily bottom out -- and I think this offer is already priced at his ceiling. I have a hard time passing up this kind of value in April.
Wide range of outcomes going forward for Kamara to be sure. If he gets hurt he could go down the Ekeler path where his value takes a big hit or he could stay healthy and give you something similar to the RB5 (in half PPR points per game) finish that he did last season. If that's the case you can absolutely get a late 1st and a dart throw in a 16 team league for him around the trade deadline. The team didn't add to their RB room this off-season indicating that Kamara is still very much in their plans in 2024.

To me this comes down to the OP's stated goal of contending in 2024. The 14th and 28th picks in this year's class are nice to have this time of year but they are unlikely to replace the production that Kamara should give you come the season. The backs in this class just don't appear to be reliable right out of the gate, which is a problem for a contending team banking on Kamara this season.


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