Post Draft top 12 1 QB

[Bronco Billy]

I think when push comes to shove and people actually start making picks, the top 2 RBs will go much higher. Especially Brooks.

There's just no way a 2nd round RB picked into a situation with a very obvious path to a lead or even feature back role in a draft where there are very few other good RB options is going to fall to the late 1st.

Historically in weak RB drafts we've seen FOURTH ROUND rookies sneak into the 1.08-1.10 range of FF rookie drafts. I don't think a RB drafted in the 2nd round is going to wind up that low in most drafts with no other RBs available.

Yes he has the ACL but he's young for a rookie so even if his first year is a wash he'll still be the same age next year as most rookie RBs.

Brooks just went 1.09 and Benson 1.12 in our 14 team 1 QB IDP league.

[murphysxm]

Xavier Worthy is going to be the most over drafted player in this rookie draft. I don't even think this is a bold take. Have we not learned that being drafted or traded to KC doesn't make you something you are not?

[lic217]

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[Cameron Giles]

Xavier Worthy is going to be the most over drafted player in this rookie draft. I don't even think this is a bold take. Have we not learned that being drafted or traded to KC doesn't make you something you are not?

We shouldn't act like Worthy is being launched purely because he went to Kansas City. He is definitely being boosted a little bit because of it, but he's not Mecole Hardman.

He was always going to get drafted in the first round, especially after running as fast as he did. But, on top of that he actually checks out in some key advanced production metrics. There are some concerns though about how much production he got from screens, which is usually a big red flag.

If you draft Worthy at 1.05-1.10, or whatever the range is, you aren't going situation > talent. You're getting a mix of both.

[murphysxm]

Xavier Worthy is going to be the most over drafted player in this rookie draft. I don't even think this is a bold take. Have we not learned that being drafted or traded to KC doesn't make you something you are not?

We shouldn't act like Worthy is being launched purely because he went to Kansas City. He is definitely being boosted a little bit because of it, but he's not Mecole Hardman.

He was always going to get drafted in the first round, especially after running as fast as he did. But, on top of that he actually checks out in some key advanced production metrics. There are some concerns though about how much production he got from screens, which is usually a big red flag.

If you draft Worthy at 1.05-1.10, or whatever the range is, you aren't going situation > talent. You're getting a mix of both.

He dropped weight to 165 to run that number, he will play closer to 172-175. That will decrease his speed (not enough to matter IMO) but will still be a complete outlier due to his weight. I agree he is more than just fast, but he is still a feather by NFL standards.

[Cameron Giles]

Xavier Worthy is going to be the most over drafted player in this rookie draft. I don't even think this is a bold take. Have we not learned that being drafted or traded to KC doesn't make you something you are not?

We shouldn't act like Worthy is being launched purely because he went to Kansas City. He is definitely being boosted a little bit because of it, but he's not Mecole Hardman.

He was always going to get drafted in the first round, especially after running as fast as he did. But, on top of that he actually checks out in some key advanced production metrics. There are some concerns though about how much production he got from screens, which is usually a big red flag.

If you draft Worthy at 1.05-1.10, or whatever the range is, you aren't going situation > talent. You're getting a mix of both.

He dropped weight to 165 to run that number, he will play closer to 172-175. That will decrease his speed (not enough to matter IMO) but will still be a complete outlier due to his weight. I agree he is more than just fast, but he is still a feather by NFL standards.

As we've been seeing in the modern NFL, this doesn't really matter much anymore

[DJB]

1.01: Harrison Jr.
1.02: Nabers
1.03: Odunze
1.04: Bowers
1.05: Thomas
1.06: Worthy
1.07: McConkey
1.08: Coleman
1.09: C. Williams
1.10: Brooks
1.11: Mitchell
1.12: Benson

[killer_of_giants]

non-ppr

1 harrison
2 nabers
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3 odunze
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4 thomas
5 bowers
6 benson
7 brooks
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8 pearsall
9 mcconkey
10 williams
11 worthy
12 daniels
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13 legette
14 coleman

[murphysxm]

As we've been seeing in the modern NFL, this doesn't really matter much anymore

I definitely think it still matters. It is not a complete deal breaker, but it is a factor. Devante Smith is the only real "success story" I can think of at this weight and draft capital.

[Cameron Giles]

As we've been seeing in the modern NFL, this doesn't really matter much anymore

I definitely think it still matters. It is not a complete deal breaker, but it is a factor. Devante Smith is the only real "success story" I can think of at this weight and draft capital.

Tank Dell was on pace for 1000 as a rookie last year as a 3rd rounder. Marquise Brown has already hit 1000 before. Cole Beasley caught 80+ in a season. Addison hit 911 as a rookie. Downs was good last year.

It's a different game. It's not nearly as brutal physically, players are protected better, and the league has gotten so much better at route concepts that favor pure separation ability. If Worthy is a bust, it will have nothing to do with how much he weighs.

[Jigga94]

non-ppr

1 harrison
2 nabers
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3 odunze
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4 thomas
5 bowers
6 benson
7 brooks
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8 pearsall
9 mcconkey
10 williams
11 worthy
12 daniels
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13 legette
14 coleman

Nailed it

[Shcritters]

As we've been seeing in the modern NFL, this doesn't really matter much anymore

I definitely think it still matters. It is not a complete deal breaker, but it is a factor. Devante Smith is the only real "success story" I can think of at this weight and draft capital.

Tank Dell was on pace for 1000 as a rookie last year as a 3rd rounder. Marquise Brown has already hit 1000 before. Cole Beasley caught 80+ in a season. Addison hit 911 as a rookie. Downs was good last year.

It's a different game. It's not nearly as brutal physically, players are protected better, and the league has gotten so much better at route concepts that favor pure separation ability. If Worthy is a bust, it will have nothing to do with how much he weighs.

Both these things can be true at the same time. Basically the only player who has ever been successful close to Xavier's weight is Smith. AND... this is a different NFL nowadays where lighter players can be successful (I think).

I have a feeling KC will put him into motion a TON... and line him up so that corners can't get a hand on him before he's 'off and running'.

If there's one system in the NFL who I think can maximize Xavier's skillset via scheme KC's braintrust has to be near the top of that list.

[Cameron Giles]

Both these things can be true at the same time. Basically the only player who has ever been successful close to Xavier's weight is Smith.

Tank Dell - 5'8, 165
Marquise Brown - 5'9, 166
Josh Downs - 5'9, 171
Xavier Worthy - 5'11, 165
Jordan Addison - 5'11, 175
DeVonta Smith - 6'0, 170

Unless someone thinks 5 lbs of water weight is the difference between these players games translating.

[murphysxm]

Tank Dell - 5'8, 165
Marquise Brown - 5'9, 166
Josh Downs - 5'9, 171
Xavier Worthy - 5'11, 165
Jordan Addison - 5'11, 175
DeVonta Smith - 6'0, 170

Unless someone thinks 5 lbs of water weight is the difference between these players games translating.

Tank and MB missed time to injury, as I said it is a factor

[Cameron Giles]

Tank Dell - 5'8, 165
Marquise Brown - 5'9, 166
Josh Downs - 5'9, 171
Xavier Worthy - 5'11, 165
Jordan Addison - 5'11, 175
DeVonta Smith - 6'0, 170

Unless someone thinks 5 lbs of water weight is the difference between these players games translating.

Tank and MB missed time to injury, as I said it is a factor

Who hasn't missed games because of injury? I never get why weight is the reason lighter players get injured, but "it's football" is the reason for everyone else. Anthony Richardson played in 4 games last year and he's built like a created player on Madden. Justin Jefferson has missed more games than Devonta Smith.

I feel like I have this conversation every year and it's never the issue people argue it to be.