New Inquiry About Cousins

[wickerkat1212]

Superflex #2 in signature, 12-man, 1 ppr, TEP (they get 2 total PPR).
I have the 1.02, 1.06, 2.02, 2.04. Hoping for Harrison, Bowers, then we'll see.

Goff, Cousins (MWhite, Wentz)
Bijan, Brian Robinson, Zamir (Allgeier, McLaughlin, Hines)
DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs (RMoore, Sky, Tutu, DPJ, Iosivas, Hutchinson, Devante, Parris)
Ferguson (Kraft, Trautman, Tremble)

New guy is inquiring about the cost of Cousins.
He has the ammo. Current price on KTC for Cousins is late 1st.
I'm sure he won't do 1.03—he'll take QB there.
I would take the 1.09 and maybe a flier QB (DeVito, Hill).
The 1.11 is low, but about the price. 1.11 + 2.08?
THOUGHTS?

His team—

DeVito, Tommy NYG QB - 580 36 103.54
Heinicke, Taylor ATL QB - 539 44 68.00
Hill, Taysom NOS QB - - 81 145.52
Hurts, Jalen PHI QB - 22 97 372.82
Lock, Drew NYG QB - 558 36 29.12
Stidham, Jarrett DEN QB - 133 41 28.64
Tannehill, Ryan TEN QB - 557 54 74.04
Trask, Kyle TBB QB - 590 29 -0.10

Bigsby, Tank JAC RB - 322 70 22.80
Dobbins, J.K. LAC RB (Q) - 215 72 11.70
Drake, Kenyan GBP RB - 452 7 3.10
Tucker, Sean TBB RB - 410 45 5.20

Austin III, Calvin PIT WR - 165 49 52.70
Jones, Julio PHI WR (Q) - 354 11 36.40
Shakir, Khalil BUF WR - 32 76 113.10
Thielen, Adam CAR WR - 73 91 231.00
Wicks, Dontayvion GBP WR - 157 67 119.76
Ertz, Zach WAS TE - 200 59 78.70
Likely, Isaiah BAL TE - 208 87 131.10
Okonkwo, Chigoziem TEN TE - 163 81 167.40
Pitts, Kyle ATL TE - 151 97 190.30

Year 2024 Draft Pick 1.03
Year 2024 Draft Pick 1.09
Year 2024 Draft Pick 1.11
Year 2024 Draft Pick 2.08
Year 2024 Draft Pick 2.12
Year 2024 Draft Pick 3.02
Year 2024 Draft Pick 3.06
Year 2024 Draft Pick 4.02

[TheTroll]

You only have 2 viable starters in SF. So giving one for a backend first is a non starter for me. You want Bowers and A WR in the draft, in my humble opinion you should be looking at a deal that gets you a 3rd starting QB. Cousins isn’t getting any younger.

[wickerkat1212]

You only have 2 viable starters in SF. So giving one for a backend first is a non starter for me. You want Bowers and A WR in the draft, in my humble opinion you should be looking at a deal that gets you a 3rd starting QB. Cousins isn’t getting any younger.

If it wasn't TEP (2 total PPR) I might take whatever QB is there at 1.06 (probably JJM). And if Bowers goes 1.08 or earlier I'll have to decide if I should take whatever QB is there or Odunze. If Nabers fell to 1.06, I can't pass him up. 1.09 would probably be Nix/Penix or Thomas, but with my QB needs, probably a QB. There is a small chance Penix or Nix falls to 2.02, but unlikely.

My thought if I don't move Cousins is take Harrison (WR1), Bowers (TE1), QB5/6 at 2.02 or best RB/WR with 2.02/2.04 and then seek out a QB in the next draft. The only concern with that is how bad is that class going to be, and if I'm picking closer to 1.06 than 1.02 will there even BE a QB worth drafting there.

I really want Bowers at 1.06, but do I move Cousins + 1.06 to get 1.03 instead? Take Daniels/Maye there?

IDK.

[wickerkat1212]

The guy with the 1.01 said he'd move back to 1.02 for the 1.06.
Could I move Cousins for the 1.09 and then swap 1.02 + 1.09 for 1.01 and take Caleb?
Then take Bowers/Odunze at 1.06?

[tstafford]

I wouldn't trade Cousins and I'd draft BPA. In this format Bowers is worth more than the 1.06 IMO. If he were to fall to me at 1.06 I'd be thrilled. And if he doesn't fall, that means one of Maye/Daniels, Odunze or Nabers is there. FWIW - I think it's a mistake to pass on QB at 1.02, but I can tell you want a WR.

[wickerkat1212]

I wouldn't trade Cousins and I'd draft BPA. In this format Bowers is worth more than the 1.06 IMO. If he were to fall to me at 1.06 I'd be thrilled. And if he doesn't fall, that means one of Maye/Daniels, Odunze or Nabers is there. FWIW - I think it's a mistake to pass on QB at 1.02, but I can tell you want a WR.

I really want Harrison. I just took over this team a year ago. Drafted Bijan, JSN, Downs and traded for DJM. If I had a clear feeling on Maye vs. Daniels I might do that at 1.02 but many are saying MHJ is the 1.01 even in Superflex. So, I can't pass him up. A QB COULD fall to me at 1.06, and if Bowers went, I'd take Maye or Nabers here. Not sure on JJM at 1.06, especially vs. Odunze.

I know I don't have depth at QB, but I think Cousins plays well for three more years, and in that time I should be able to find a QB. If not two. Maybe Penix/Nix falls to 2.02.

[tstafford]

I wouldn't trade Cousins and I'd draft BPA. In this format Bowers is worth more than the 1.06 IMO. If he were to fall to me at 1.06 I'd be thrilled. And if he doesn't fall, that means one of Maye/Daniels, Odunze or Nabers is there. FWIW - I think it's a mistake to pass on QB at 1.02, but I can tell you want a WR.

I really want Harrison. I just took over this team a year ago. Drafted Bijan, JSN, Downs and traded for DJM. If I had a clear feeling on Maye vs. Daniels I might do that at 1.02 but many are saying MHJ is the 1.01 even in Superflex. So, I can't pass him up. A QB COULD fall to me at 1.06, and if Bowers went, I'd take Maye or Nabers here. Not sure on JJM at 1.06, especially vs. Odunze.

I know I don't have depth at QB, but I think Cousins plays well for three more years, and in that time I should be able to find a QB. If not two. Maybe Penix/Nix falls to 2.02.

I totally get it. Early in the process I was heavily leaning toward taking MHJR at 1.01 in my SF league. But at some point I realized that CW is clearly the 1.01. Because I don't feel all that strongly about him vs. the next five guys (not inc. Bowers) I traded down to the 1.03. The 1.03 or 1.04 is about as low as I'd want to go because I start to worry about landing spots tarnishing some of the top-6. I'm about 99% sure MHJR is going to go ahead of me and I'm fine with that. I'll happily take the QB2 which I think will be Daniels.

The interesting thing is I also have the 1.05. There's for sure an interplay b/w the picks when one holds several of the elite selections. The guy with the 1.04 desperately needs QB (Fields, Tanny, AOC) but he's an industry guy and his SF ranks are published. He has Nabers 1.04 and Maye 1.05. He's in a tough spot - not taking a QB at 1.04 with that level of need is risky. Regardless I'm fine with whatever falls. Choosing b/w Maye/Odunze would be tough. But I'm guessing there's a decent chance I get Nabers.

[knotts4372]

The guy with the 1.01 said he'd move back to 1.02 for the 1.06.
Could I move Cousins for the 1.09 and then swap 1.02 + 1.09 for 1.01 and take Caleb?
Then take Bowers/Odunze at 1.06?

to me this is the guy with 1.1 knows you want mhjr and is trying to make you think he might take him at 1.1.

im all in on mhjr being the prize of this draft even more so than caleb williams so i'd just stick it out with 1.2 here. if the dude goes caleb at 1.1 then you get the guy you wanted anyway. if he does take harrison at 1.1 then you are sitting with williams there to take and i guarantee everyone would at least think about shooting you an offer for that 1.2 so you could get a bid war going for it.

long story short there is no way imo you should entertain moving up to 1.1 here

[MacDaddy123]

I'd just keep Cousins, as I think you are over-valuing him anyway.
Maybe you get lucky and other guy wants Cousins so badly he over-pays for him and gives up his 1.09.
But my calculator, which seems much more on point to me than KTC, which over-values rookie picks, says that Cousins is worth just slightly less than 1.12.
So getting the 1.11 straight up for Cousins would be a good get, but then you are stuck with 1 QB again.

For me, in your situation, if you trade away Cousins you paint yourself into a corner where you can't take MHJ at 1.02, and have to grab a QB there.
Probably be smart to do that anyway, since no one knows how Cousins will bounce back from the Achilles injury.

[wickerkat1212]

I'd just keep Cousins, as I think you are over-valuing him anyway.
Maybe you get lucky and other guy wants Cousins so badly he over-pays for him and gives up his 1.09.
But my calculator, which seems much more on point to me than KTC, which over-values rookie picks, says that Cousins is worth just slightly less than 1.12.
So getting the 1.11 straight up for Cousins would be a good get, but then you are stuck with 1 QB again.

For me, in your situation, if you trade away Cousins you paint yourself into a corner where you can't take MHJ at 1.02, and have to grab a QB there.
Probably be smart to do that anyway, since no one knows how Cousins will bounce back from the Achilles injury.

Thanks. I wish I had a sense of the QBs. I'm not in love with Daniels OR Maye. Both could be studs, both could bust.

[MacDaddy123]

I'd just keep Cousins, as I think you are over-valuing him anyway.
Maybe you get lucky and other guy wants Cousins so badly he over-pays for him and gives up his 1.09.
But my calculator, which seems much more on point to me than KTC, which over-values rookie picks, says that Cousins is worth just slightly less than 1.12.
So getting the 1.11 straight up for Cousins would be a good get, but then you are stuck with 1 QB again.

For me, in your situation, if you trade away Cousins you paint yourself into a corner where you can't take MHJ at 1.02, and have to grab a QB there.
Probably be smart to do that anyway, since no one knows how Cousins will bounce back from the Achilles injury.

Thanks. I wish I had a sense of the QBs. I'm not in love with Daniels OR Maye. Both could be studs, both could bust.

So that pretty much answers your question, no, you cannot trade Cousins.

[wickerkat1212]

I'd just keep Cousins, as I think you are over-valuing him anyway.
Maybe you get lucky and other guy wants Cousins so badly he over-pays for him and gives up his 1.09.
But my calculator, which seems much more on point to me than KTC, which over-values rookie picks, says that Cousins is worth just slightly less than 1.12.
So getting the 1.11 straight up for Cousins would be a good get, but then you are stuck with 1 QB again.

For me, in your situation, if you trade away Cousins you paint yourself into a corner where you can't take MHJ at 1.02, and have to grab a QB there.
Probably be smart to do that anyway, since no one knows how Cousins will bounce back from the Achilles injury.

Thanks. I wish I had a sense of the QBs. I'm not in love with Daniels OR Maye. Both could be studs, both could bust.

So that pretty much answers your question, no, you cannot trade Cousins.

Yeah, that's where I'm landing unless the guy is willing to give up the 1.09.