Rank Your Top Six in TEP Superflex

[TheTroll]

I think you have the top 7 just of course we don’t know the order. I would drop Bowers a bit as 1.03 is a little high for me.

[MacDaddy123]

1) Caleb
2) MHJ
3) Nabers
4) Bowers
5) Daniels
6) Maye

I have MHJ and Nabers damn near even.
I need TEP to be > 1.0 to consider moving Bowers over Nabers or MHJ.

Like in leagues where TEP is 2.0, meaning TE's get 2 PPR more than WR/RB, then I move Bowers up to 1.02, maybe even 1.01.

In my league, TEP is 0.5, Bowers will probably be the 1.07.
0.5 TEP doesn't really move the needle at all.

[tstafford]

I think you have the top 7 just of course we don’t know the order. I would drop Bowers a bit as 1.03 is a little high for me.

Right.

OP: are you drafting before the NFL Draft and that's why you need to "set your board now"? If so, IMO:

CW - has to be 1.01. He's the only player in the draft who we *know* where he's going. That extra knowledge vs. all other picks makes it inherently less risky. He probably should be the 1.01 regardless but in devy he's easily the top asset.

Bowers - have to push him all the way down to 1.07 or later. I want no part of a TE at these prices w/o knowing landing spot. Position is the most dependent on situation: system and target share. Too risky to pay a premium for right now. I understand this is TEP, but I'm not taking on the risk regardless.

We think we know a lot but we are missing the biggest piece of the puzzle. I think it's cool that some leagues are drafting now, but there will be picks that look bad in a month. So my advice is to try to de-risk your picks in this format.

[wickerkat1212]

I think you have the top 7 just of course we don’t know the order. I would drop Bowers a bit as 1.03 is a little high for me.

Right.

OP: are you drafting before the NFL Draft and that's why you need to "set your board now"? If so, IMO:

CW - has to be 1.01. He's the only player in the draft who we *know* where he's going. That extra knowledge vs. all other picks makes it inherently less risky. He probably should be the 1.01 regardless but in devy he's easily the top asset.

Bowers - have to push him all the way down to 1.07 or later. I want no part of a TE at these prices w/o knowing landing spot. Position is the most dependent on situation: system and target share. Too risky to pay a premium for right now. I understand this is TEP, but I'm not taking on the risk regardless.

We think we know a lot but we are missing the biggest piece of the puzzle. I think it's cool that some leagues are drafting now, but there will be picks that look bad in a month. So my advice is to try to de-risk your picks in this format.

No, we don't draft until after the NFL draft. Just getting a sense of how people feel about the top six/seven. Obviously things can change after the draft based upon where people land.

[henry1jg]

I'm trying to set my board. I know this may change after the draft. But today—
—in a 12-man, 1 ppr, TEP (2 total PPR for TEs), where we start qb-rb-rb-wr-wr-wr-te-superflex-flex-flex
please rank your top six picks. I have it—

1.01 Williams
1.02 Harrison
1.03 Bowers
1.04 Nabers
1.05 Daniels
1.06 Maye/JJM/Odunze—still not sure here

You?

1 - MHJ
2 - Caleb Williams
3 - Daniels
4 - Nabers
5 - Odunze
6 - Maye

Then Bowers, JJ, BTJ

This will definitely change after the draft

[tstafford]

I think you have the top 7 just of course we don’t know the order. I would drop Bowers a bit as 1.03 is a little high for me.

Right.

OP: are you drafting before the NFL Draft and that's why you need to "set your board now"? If so, IMO:

CW - has to be 1.01. He's the only player in the draft who we *know* where he's going. That extra knowledge vs. all other picks makes it inherently less risky. He probably should be the 1.01 regardless but in devy he's easily the top asset.

Bowers - have to push him all the way down to 1.07 or later. I want no part of a TE at these prices w/o knowing landing spot. Position is the most dependent on situation: system and target share. Too risky to pay a premium for right now. I understand this is TEP, but I'm not taking on the risk regardless.

We think we know a lot but we are missing the biggest piece of the puzzle. I think it's cool that some leagues are drafting now, but there will be picks that look bad in a month. So my advice is to try to de-risk your picks in this format.

No, we don't draft until after the NFL draft. Just getting a sense of how people feel about the top six/seven. Obviously things can change after the draft based upon where people land.

In that case, your order is as good as any.

The problem is it's impossible to slot Bowers. Landing spot matters so, so much.

Once the draft happens this will all come in to focus. For now we're stuck rehashing the same stuff again and again.

[wickerkat1212]

Right.

OP: are you drafting before the NFL Draft and that's why you need to "set your board now"? If so, IMO:

CW - has to be 1.01. He's the only player in the draft who we *know* where he's going. That extra knowledge vs. all other picks makes it inherently less risky. He probably should be the 1.01 regardless but in devy he's easily the top asset.

Bowers - have to push him all the way down to 1.07 or later. I want no part of a TE at these prices w/o knowing landing spot. Position is the most dependent on situation: system and target share. Too risky to pay a premium for right now. I understand this is TEP, but I'm not taking on the risk regardless.

We think we know a lot but we are missing the biggest piece of the puzzle. I think it's cool that some leagues are drafting now, but there will be picks that look bad in a month. So my advice is to try to de-risk your picks in this format.

No, we don't draft until after the NFL draft. Just getting a sense of how people feel about the top six/seven. Obviously things can change after the draft based upon where people land.

In that case, your order is as good as any.

The problem is it's impossible to slot Bowers. Landing spot matters so, so much.

Once the draft happens this will all come in to focus. For now we're stuck rehashing the same stuff again and again.

Yeah, obviously I'm bored and ready for the draft LOL. Just something to pass the time.

[Mtt33]

Right.

OP: are you drafting before the NFL Draft and that's why you need to "set your board now"? If so, IMO:

CW - has to be 1.01. He's the only player in the draft who we *know* where he's going. That extra knowledge vs. all other picks makes it inherently less risky. He probably should be the 1.01 regardless but in devy he's easily the top asset.

Bowers - have to push him all the way down to 1.07 or later. I want no part of a TE at these prices w/o knowing landing spot. Position is the most dependent on situation: system and target share. Too risky to pay a premium for right now. I understand this is TEP, but I'm not taking on the risk regardless.

We think we know a lot but we are missing the biggest piece of the puzzle. I think it's cool that some leagues are drafting now, but there will be picks that look bad in a month. So my advice is to try to de-risk your picks in this format.

No, we don't draft until after the NFL draft. Just getting a sense of how people feel about the top six/seven. Obviously things can change after the draft based upon where people land.

In that case, your order is as good as any.

The problem is it's impossible to slot Bowers. Landing spot matters so, so much.

Once the draft happens this will all come in to focus. For now we're stuck rehashing the same stuff again and again.

Can you elaborate on how you’d factor in landing spot for bowers? Certainly capital matters and situation matters but what are you using to determine a good situation? Lack of receivers? Previous te usage? Good qb play?

I’d heavily caution against factoring in how a qb/coach/coordinator has used TE in the past. Bowers is flexible asset (can flex out and essentially be a wr) and basing his usage on how they’ve used different, or frankly worse, TEs wouldn’t be a great basis IMO, so I’m interested in what your criteria would be, examples of good/bad spots in your opinion would be a bonus!

My view is we don’t have a big sample size of comps in the modern nfl, I throw most te comps out the window because the nfl has changed so much recently. Pitts is a fair one and I’d label him a bust so far, but all the previous ones to me are mostly useless.

[tstafford]

No, we don't draft until after the NFL draft. Just getting a sense of how people feel about the top six/seven. Obviously things can change after the draft based upon where people land.

In that case, your order is as good as any.

The problem is it's impossible to slot Bowers. Landing spot matters so, so much.

Once the draft happens this will all come in to focus. For now we're stuck rehashing the same stuff again and again.

Can you elaborate on how you’d factor in landing spot for bowers? Certainly capital matters and situation matters but what are you using to determine a good situation? Lack of receivers? Previous te usage? Good qb play?

I’d heavily caution against factoring in how a qb/coach/coordinator has used TE in the past. Bowers is flexible asset (can flex out and essentially be a wr) and basing his usage on how they’ve used different, or frankly worse, TEs wouldn’t be a great basis IMO, so I’m interested in what your criteria would be, examples of good/bad spots in your opinion would be a bonus!

My view is we don’t have a big sample size of comps in the modern nfl, I throw most te comps out the window because the nfl has changed so much recently. Pitts is a fair one and I’d label him a bust so far, but all the previous ones to me are mostly useless.

Sure. My number one criteria is whether or not we can reasonably project him as the #2 (or #1) receiving target in the offense. When TEs are #2 in receptions on their team, they have a good chance to be valuable in FF. If not, it's less predictable. I don't care as much about the system, I care about how the targets will get divvied up.

[BigBawseRoss]

daniels williams harrison nabers maye odzune bowers something like that

[wickerkat1212]

In that case, your order is as good as any.

The problem is it's impossible to slot Bowers. Landing spot matters so, so much.

Once the draft happens this will all come in to focus. For now we're stuck rehashing the same stuff again and again.

Can you elaborate on how you’d factor in landing spot for bowers? Certainly capital matters and situation matters but what are you using to determine a good situation? Lack of receivers? Previous te usage? Good qb play?

I’d heavily caution against factoring in how a qb/coach/coordinator has used TE in the past. Bowers is flexible asset (can flex out and essentially be a wr) and basing his usage on how they’ve used different, or frankly worse, TEs wouldn’t be a great basis IMO, so I’m interested in what your criteria would be, examples of good/bad spots in your opinion would be a bonus!

My view is we don’t have a big sample size of comps in the modern nfl, I throw most te comps out the window because the nfl has changed so much recently. Pitts is a fair one and I’d label him a bust so far, but all the previous ones to me are mostly useless.

Sure. My number one criteria is whether or not we can reasonably project him as the #2 (or #1) receiving target in the offense. When TEs are #2 in receptions on their team, they have a good chance to be valuable in FF. If not, it's less predictable. I don't care as much about the system, I care about how the targets will get divvied up.

Thanks. So, great landing spot for Bowers—Chargers? Jets? Titans? Colts? Saints?

[MacDaddy123]

1) Caleb
2) MHJ
3) Nabers
4) Bowers
5) Daniels
6) Maye

I have MHJ and Nabers damn near even.
I need TEP to be > 1.0 to consider moving Bowers over Nabers or MHJ.

Like in leagues where TEP is 2.0, meaning TE's get 2 PPR more than WR/RB, then I move Bowers up to 1.02, maybe even 1.01.

In my league, TEP is 0.5, Bowers will probably be the 1.07.
0.5 TEP doesn't really move the needle at all.

Post NFL Draft I would now rank them like this:

1) Caleb
2) MHJ
3) Daniels
4) Nabers
5) Maye
6) McCarthy

[Anteaters]

Based solely on how excited I would be to have each player on my SF/TEP dynasty roster because I think the player can help a fantasy team win games over the next 3 seasons ...

Daniels
.
Caleb
.
Nabers
MHJr
.
Penix
Bowers

Depending on situation, I'm going to slot a RB in the tier with Penix/Bowers

[Mtt33]

Based solely on how excited I would be to have each player on my SF/TEP dynasty roster because I think the player can help a fantasy team win games over the next 3 seasons ...

Daniels
.
Caleb
.
Nabers
MHJr
.
Penix
Bowers

Depending on situation, I'm going to slot a RB in the tier with Penix/Bowers

Do you not like odunze or think that landing spot is a death sentence? I like the spot for dynasty. Give me all the odunze if this is how the market feels I guess!

[MacDaddy123]

Based solely on how excited I would be to have each player on my SF/TEP dynasty roster because I think the player can help a fantasy team win games over the next 3 seasons ...

Daniels
.
Caleb
.
Nabers
MHJr
.
Penix
Bowers

Depending on situation, I'm going to slot a RB in the tier with Penix/Bowers

Do you not like odunze or think that landing spot is a death sentence? I like the spot for dynasty. Give me all the odunze if this is how the market feels I guess!

I wouldn't say death sentence, but I did not like the landing spot for Odunze.
More just caps his ceiling, IMO