2024 Team Rebuild

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Re: 2024 Team Rebuild

Postby Mtt33 » Tue Apr 09, 2024 12:16 pm

What are the roster spots here? You have a massive amount of equity on this team, I certainly wouldn’t want to be making all those picks in a 1qb.
Shop all your picks, you could easily get marv (and maybe even Nabers) and contend right away with this team.

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Re: 2024 Team Rebuild

Postby Gronkasaurus » Tue Apr 09, 2024 1:09 pm

Menace2010 wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 12:08 pm
Gronkasaurus wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 11:58 am Would this trade make sense?
Send
1.01, 1.05 and Freiermuth
Receive
1.03, 1.06 and 2.09
Which side? There's a zero % chance I'd move off 1.01 for that return... but add in another pick downgrade and give up a descent TE in a TE premium league? Firm pass.
I would be trading the 1.01 pick with 1.05 and Frierermuth
10 Team 23 man roster w/3 practice squad. PPR with tight ends getting .15/reception.
QB: DeShaun Watson, Aaron Rodgers, Geno Smith
RB: Jonathan Taylor, Travis Etienne, Jk Dobbins, Gus Edwards, Kareem Hunt, Dalvin Cook
WR: Garrett Wilson, James Toney, Michael Thomas, Dj Chark, Michael Gallup, John Metchie
TE: Pat Freiermuth, Darren Waller, Hunter Henry, Noah Fant
K: Justin Tucker, Cameron Dicker
D/St: Bills, Texans
2024 picks: 1.01, 1.02, 1.04, 1.07, 1.08, 1.09, 1.10, 2.01, and 2.02
2025 picks: rounds 1-5

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Re: 2024 Team Rebuild

Postby Gronkasaurus » Tue Apr 09, 2024 1:27 pm

He did redo his offer so now it is this:
I would send
1.01, 1.05 and Freirmuth
To get
1.03, 1.06, 2.06, 2.09, and 3.09
10 Team 23 man roster w/3 practice squad. PPR with tight ends getting .15/reception.
QB: DeShaun Watson, Aaron Rodgers, Geno Smith
RB: Jonathan Taylor, Travis Etienne, Jk Dobbins, Gus Edwards, Kareem Hunt, Dalvin Cook
WR: Garrett Wilson, James Toney, Michael Thomas, Dj Chark, Michael Gallup, John Metchie
TE: Pat Freiermuth, Darren Waller, Hunter Henry, Noah Fant
K: Justin Tucker, Cameron Dicker
D/St: Bills, Texans
2024 picks: 1.01, 1.02, 1.04, 1.07, 1.08, 1.09, 1.10, 2.01, and 2.02
2025 picks: rounds 1-5

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Re: 2024 Team Rebuild

Postby killer_of_giants » Tue Apr 09, 2024 1:53 pm

funk no!
say freiermuth is worth 2.09, you'd be trading back two top picks to add a mid second and a third... it's not like you need more picks...

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Re: 2024 Team Rebuild

Postby repkllrs » Tue Apr 09, 2024 2:15 pm

Gronkasaurus wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 11:58 am Would this trade make sense?
Send
1.01, 1.05 and Freiermuth
Receive
1.03, 1.06 and 2.09
That’s horrible. I wouldn’t do that if Pat was on the other side.
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Re: 2024 Team Rebuild

Postby murphysxm » Tue Apr 09, 2024 7:32 pm

Gronkasaurus wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 8:35 am
murphysxm wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 8:02 am Take the two pretty sure fire stud WR's or take the one you like best and put the other pick on the block. Don't even consider anybody else if you are keeping the picks though.

EDIT - Welcome to the forum!
Thanks for the advice!

Even with a need at the TE position you would still take the WRs. What type of offer, in your opinion, would convince you to move off of number to (if I am reading a pick, I am picking the player I want most).
I think you are overvaluing the TE premium a tad much. Nabers and MHJ aren’t just good WR prospects, they are both stud prospects. To pass on that for a TE, I would need a lot to justify that.
I am just a guy sharing some thoughts

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Re: 2024 Team Rebuild

Postby Gronkasaurus » Wed Apr 10, 2024 6:15 am

murphysxm wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 7:32 pm
Gronkasaurus wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 8:35 am
murphysxm wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 8:02 am Take the two pretty sure fire stud WR's or take the one you like best and put the other pick on the block. Don't even consider anybody else if you are keeping the picks though.

EDIT - Welcome to the forum!
Thanks for the advice!

Even with a need at the TE position you would still take the WRs. What type of offer, in your opinion, would convince you to move off of number to (if I am reading a pick, I am picking the player I want most).
I think you are overvaluing the TE premium a tad much. Nabers and MHJ aren’t just good WR prospects, they are both stud prospects. To pass on that for a TE, I would need a lot to justify that.
After consideration and advice from the thread, I am staying with the first two picks, but I was able to trade the fifth overall pick for picks 2.01 and 2.02 so that I can get Williams and Daniels. Didn’t mind moving that pick but wanted to keep the fourth should Bowers fall to me
10 Team 23 man roster w/3 practice squad. PPR with tight ends getting .15/reception.
QB: DeShaun Watson, Aaron Rodgers, Geno Smith
RB: Jonathan Taylor, Travis Etienne, Jk Dobbins, Gus Edwards, Kareem Hunt, Dalvin Cook
WR: Garrett Wilson, James Toney, Michael Thomas, Dj Chark, Michael Gallup, John Metchie
TE: Pat Freiermuth, Darren Waller, Hunter Henry, Noah Fant
K: Justin Tucker, Cameron Dicker
D/St: Bills, Texans
2024 picks: 1.01, 1.02, 1.04, 1.07, 1.08, 1.09, 1.10, 2.01, and 2.02
2025 picks: rounds 1-5

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Re: 2024 Team Rebuild

Postby Mtt33 » Wed Apr 10, 2024 6:26 am

Gronkasaurus wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 6:15 am
murphysxm wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 7:32 pm
Gronkasaurus wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 8:35 am
Thanks for the advice!

Even with a need at the TE position you would still take the WRs. What type of offer, in your opinion, would convince you to move off of number to (if I am reading a pick, I am picking the player I want most).
I think you are overvaluing the TE premium a tad much. Nabers and MHJ aren’t just good WR prospects, they are both stud prospects. To pass on that for a TE, I would need a lot to justify that.
After consideration and advice from the thread, I am staying with the first two picks, but I was able to trade the fifth overall pick for picks 2.01 and 2.02 so that I can get Williams and Daniels. Didn’t mind moving that pick but wanted to keep the fourth should Bowers fall to me
Really don’t like that trade in a 1qb. You have so many picks already, in a 1 qb league you should be consolidating at this point. How many starters are there?

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Re: 2024 Team Rebuild

Postby Gronkasaurus » Wed Apr 10, 2024 6:46 am

Mtt33 wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 6:26 am
Gronkasaurus wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 6:15 am
murphysxm wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 7:32 pm

I think you are overvaluing the TE premium a tad much. Nabers and MHJ aren’t just good WR prospects, they are both stud prospects. To pass on that for a TE, I would need a lot to justify that.
After consideration and advice from the thread, I am staying with the first two picks, but I was able to trade the fifth overall pick for picks 2.01 and 2.02 so that I can get Williams and Daniels. Didn’t mind moving that pick but wanted to keep the fourth should Bowers fall to me
Really don’t like that trade in a 1qb. You have so many picks already, in a 1 qb league you should be consolidating at this point. How many starters are there?
We start ten players (Qb, Rb, Rb, Wr, Wr, Te, Flex Rb/Wr, Flex Wr, Rb, Te, K, Dst).

I did it to grab Williams/Daniels/Benson with those added picks. Just figured there was value in getting the extra pick.

I also feel that I need to get more players that will be upgrades for what I have. Rodgers is at the end of his career Smith and Watson are kind up in the air at this point as to what you can expect from them. So I am going to rebuild why not get more picks, take the best qbs in a really good class, and if they hit I have two plug and play and for ten years.

Is that flawed logic?
10 Team 23 man roster w/3 practice squad. PPR with tight ends getting .15/reception.
QB: DeShaun Watson, Aaron Rodgers, Geno Smith
RB: Jonathan Taylor, Travis Etienne, Jk Dobbins, Gus Edwards, Kareem Hunt, Dalvin Cook
WR: Garrett Wilson, James Toney, Michael Thomas, Dj Chark, Michael Gallup, John Metchie
TE: Pat Freiermuth, Darren Waller, Hunter Henry, Noah Fant
K: Justin Tucker, Cameron Dicker
D/St: Bills, Texans
2024 picks: 1.01, 1.02, 1.04, 1.07, 1.08, 1.09, 1.10, 2.01, and 2.02
2025 picks: rounds 1-5

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Re: 2024 Team Rebuild

Postby Viking386 » Wed Apr 10, 2024 10:13 am

Gronkasaurus wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 11:58 am Would this trade make sense?
Send
1.01, 1.05 and Freiermuth
Receive
1.03, 1.06 and 2.09
Please dont do this trade. lol
Main Home League
12 Team 1 QB PPR
-Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE and 2 Flex

QB: Anthony Richardson, Sam Darnold
RB: Bijan Robinson, nobody worth mentioning
WR: ARSB, Olave, Nico Collins, Tyquan Thornton, Marvin Mims, Tre Tucker, Bell, Austin,
TE: McBride and Dulcich

Draft Picks
-1.01, 1.07, 2 24 3rds and 4 24 4ths.
-2 25 1sts, 3 25 3rds and 3 25 4ths
-2 26 1sts, 2 26 2nds, 1 26 3rd, and1 26 4th

2022 Champions in full rebuild. Looking to contend again in 2025.

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Re: 2024 Team Rebuild

Postby Viking386 » Wed Apr 10, 2024 10:18 am

Gronkasaurus wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 6:46 am
Mtt33 wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 6:26 am
Gronkasaurus wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 6:15 am
After consideration and advice from the thread, I am staying with the first two picks, but I was able to trade the fifth overall pick for picks 2.01 and 2.02 so that I can get Williams and Daniels. Didn’t mind moving that pick but wanted to keep the fourth should Bowers fall to me
Really don’t like that trade in a 1qb. You have so many picks already, in a 1 qb league you should be consolidating at this point. How many starters are there?
We start ten players (Qb, Rb, Rb, Wr, Wr, Te, Flex Rb/Wr, Flex Wr, Rb, Te, K, Dst).

I did it to grab Williams/Daniels/Benson with those added picks. Just figured there was value in getting the extra pick.

I also feel that I need to get more players that will be upgrades for what I have. Rodgers is at the end of his career Smith and Watson are kind up in the air at this point as to what you can expect from them. So I am going to rebuild why not get more picks, take the best qbs in a really good class, and if they hit I have two plug and play and for ten years.

Is that flawed logic?

Oh man, the 5th overall for the 2.01 and 2.02? You could have landed one of those QBs with your later 1st round picks. Not sure Id give up the 5th best rookie for the 11th and 12th
Main Home League
12 Team 1 QB PPR
-Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE and 2 Flex

QB: Anthony Richardson, Sam Darnold
RB: Bijan Robinson, nobody worth mentioning
WR: ARSB, Olave, Nico Collins, Tyquan Thornton, Marvin Mims, Tre Tucker, Bell, Austin,
TE: McBride and Dulcich

Draft Picks
-1.01, 1.07, 2 24 3rds and 4 24 4ths.
-2 25 1sts, 3 25 3rds and 3 25 4ths
-2 26 1sts, 2 26 2nds, 1 26 3rd, and1 26 4th

2022 Champions in full rebuild. Looking to contend again in 2025.

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Re: 2024 Team Rebuild

Postby Gronkasaurus » Wed Apr 10, 2024 10:41 am

Viking386 wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 10:18 am
Gronkasaurus wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 6:46 am
Mtt33 wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 6:26 am

Really don’t like that trade in a 1qb. You have so many picks already, in a 1 qb league you should be consolidating at this point. How many starters are there?
We start ten players (Qb, Rb, Rb, Wr, Wr, Te, Flex Rb/Wr, Flex Wr, Rb, Te, K, Dst).

I did it to grab Williams/Daniels/Benson with those added picks. Just figured there was value in getting the extra pick.

I also feel that I need to get more players that will be upgrades for what I have. Rodgers is at the end of his career Smith and Watson are kind up in the air at this point as to what you can expect from them. So I am going to rebuild why not get more picks, take the best qbs in a really good class, and if they hit I have two plug and play and for ten years.

Is that flawed logic?

Oh man, the 5th overall for the 2.01 and 2.02? You could have landed one of those QBs with your later 1st round picks. Not sure Id give up the 5th best rookie for the 11th and 12th
I don’t have picks after the first round and wanted to get these picks to get ahead of the qb needy teams. In my mind I don’t think it was a bad move and would end with qbs who I feel are better than next years draft. Is this a bad move probably but at the moment I think I am good with. Could I regret it yeah, but live and learn.
10 Team 23 man roster w/3 practice squad. PPR with tight ends getting .15/reception.
QB: DeShaun Watson, Aaron Rodgers, Geno Smith
RB: Jonathan Taylor, Travis Etienne, Jk Dobbins, Gus Edwards, Kareem Hunt, Dalvin Cook
WR: Garrett Wilson, James Toney, Michael Thomas, Dj Chark, Michael Gallup, John Metchie
TE: Pat Freiermuth, Darren Waller, Hunter Henry, Noah Fant
K: Justin Tucker, Cameron Dicker
D/St: Bills, Texans
2024 picks: 1.01, 1.02, 1.04, 1.07, 1.08, 1.09, 1.10, 2.01, and 2.02
2025 picks: rounds 1-5

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Re: 2024 Team Rebuild

Postby Viking386 » Wed Apr 10, 2024 10:46 am

Gronkasaurus wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 10:41 am
Viking386 wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 10:18 am
Gronkasaurus wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 6:46 am
We start ten players (Qb, Rb, Rb, Wr, Wr, Te, Flex Rb/Wr, Flex Wr, Rb, Te, K, Dst).

I did it to grab Williams/Daniels/Benson with those added picks. Just figured there was value in getting the extra pick.

I also feel that I need to get more players that will be upgrades for what I have. Rodgers is at the end of his career Smith and Watson are kind up in the air at this point as to what you can expect from them. So I am going to rebuild why not get more picks, take the best qbs in a really good class, and if they hit I have two plug and play and for ten years.

Is that flawed logic?

Oh man, the 5th overall for the 2.01 and 2.02? You could have landed one of those QBs with your later 1st round picks. Not sure Id give up the 5th best rookie for the 11th and 12th
I don’t have picks after the first round and wanted to get these picks to get ahead of the qb needy teams. In my mind I don’t think it was a bad move and would end with qbs who I feel are better than next years draft. Is this a bad move probably but at the moment I think I am good with. Could I regret it yeah, but live and learn.
I think you are overvaluing QB in 1 QB 10 man league. They are dime a dozen here. But even that said Caleb isnt making it out of the 1st round even in a 1 QB league. You had the picks to get Caleb.
Main Home League
12 Team 1 QB PPR
-Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE and 2 Flex

QB: Anthony Richardson, Sam Darnold
RB: Bijan Robinson, nobody worth mentioning
WR: ARSB, Olave, Nico Collins, Tyquan Thornton, Marvin Mims, Tre Tucker, Bell, Austin,
TE: McBride and Dulcich

Draft Picks
-1.01, 1.07, 2 24 3rds and 4 24 4ths.
-2 25 1sts, 3 25 3rds and 3 25 4ths
-2 26 1sts, 2 26 2nds, 1 26 3rd, and1 26 4th

2022 Champions in full rebuild. Looking to contend again in 2025.

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Re: 2024 Team Rebuild

Postby Gronkasaurus » Wed Apr 10, 2024 10:52 am

Viking386 wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 10:46 am
Gronkasaurus wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 10:41 am
Viking386 wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 10:18 am


Oh man, the 5th overall for the 2.01 and 2.02? You could have landed one of those QBs with your later 1st round picks. Not sure Id give up the 5th best rookie for the 11th and 12th
I don’t have picks after the first round and wanted to get these picks to get ahead of the qb needy teams. In my mind I don’t think it was a bad move and would end with qbs who I feel are better than next years draft. Is this a bad move probably but at the moment I think I am good with. Could I regret it yeah, but live and learn.
I think you are overvaluing QB in 1 QB 10 man league. They are dime a dozen here. But even that said Caleb isnt making it out of the 1st round even in a 1 QB league. You had the picks to get Caleb.
I still have the picks to get Caleb, 7 out of the top 10. If I have picks 7-10 why not trade back and pick up another pick? No one else can trade up to get him unless they trade with me. Even if the owner takes him a five, the owner at six isn’t taking a qb, in my mind that basically gives me a shot at Brooks, Thomas or whoever not picked at six. Just how I see it
10 Team 23 man roster w/3 practice squad. PPR with tight ends getting .15/reception.
QB: DeShaun Watson, Aaron Rodgers, Geno Smith
RB: Jonathan Taylor, Travis Etienne, Jk Dobbins, Gus Edwards, Kareem Hunt, Dalvin Cook
WR: Garrett Wilson, James Toney, Michael Thomas, Dj Chark, Michael Gallup, John Metchie
TE: Pat Freiermuth, Darren Waller, Hunter Henry, Noah Fant
K: Justin Tucker, Cameron Dicker
D/St: Bills, Texans
2024 picks: 1.01, 1.02, 1.04, 1.07, 1.08, 1.09, 1.10, 2.01, and 2.02
2025 picks: rounds 1-5

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Re: 2024 Team Rebuild

Postby Viking386 » Wed Apr 10, 2024 11:05 am

Gronkasaurus wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 10:52 am
Viking386 wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 10:46 am
Gronkasaurus wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 10:41 am
I don’t have picks after the first round and wanted to get these picks to get ahead of the qb needy teams. In my mind I don’t think it was a bad move and would end with qbs who I feel are better than next years draft. Is this a bad move probably but at the moment I think I am good with. Could I regret it yeah, but live and learn.
I think you are overvaluing QB in 1 QB 10 man league. They are dime a dozen here. But even that said Caleb isnt making it out of the 1st round even in a 1 QB league. You had the picks to get Caleb.
I still have the picks to get Caleb, 7 out of the top 10. If I have picks 7-10 why not trade back and pick up another pick? No one else can trade up to get him unless they trade with me. Even if the owner takes him a five, the owner at six isn’t taking a qb, in my mind that basically gives me a shot at Brooks, Thomas or whoever not picked at six. Just how I see it
Sure falling back is fine but it was too pricey for me. Giving up the 5th best pick for 11th and 12th is a drop. Thats most likely Brain Thomas Jr for I dont know Brooks and Franklins. Too steep
Main Home League
12 Team 1 QB PPR
-Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE and 2 Flex

QB: Anthony Richardson, Sam Darnold
RB: Bijan Robinson, nobody worth mentioning
WR: ARSB, Olave, Nico Collins, Tyquan Thornton, Marvin Mims, Tre Tucker, Bell, Austin,
TE: McBride and Dulcich

Draft Picks
-1.01, 1.07, 2 24 3rds and 4 24 4ths.
-2 25 1sts, 3 25 3rds and 3 25 4ths
-2 26 1sts, 2 26 2nds, 1 26 3rd, and1 26 4th

2022 Champions in full rebuild. Looking to contend again in 2025.


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