Minor Move for Evan Hull

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Minor Move for Evan Hull

Postby wickerkat1212 » Thu Mar 28, 2024 11:51 am

12-man, 1 ppr, we start qb-rb-rb-rb-wr-wr-wr-wr-te-flex-flex-k-d.

Guy offered 4.12 for Evan Hull, to back up JT. I countered asking for 4.01.
No response yet.

Should I take that pick or try to get the 4.01?
I think Hull is a valuable handcuff.
I'd rather keep him then give him up for the 4.12 flier.

This league starts THREE MINIMUM RBS so they are always valuable.

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D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Minor Move for Evan Hull

Postby yinzername » Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:59 pm

I’m interested to see if Hull can be the pass catching back in Indy this year, but even still, hard to see what kind of value he’d return with JT and AR as primary running options. Kinda think AR will scramble before a lot of safety valve dump-offs
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QB: Mahomes - Levis - Rudolph
RB: K Mitchell - J McLaughlin - C Rodriguez - Z Evans
WR: AJB - M Pittman- R Doubs - E Moore - Shaheed - C Tillman- A Iosivas
TE: MAndrews - Kraft
'24: 1.1, 1.7, 2.1, 2.6, 2.10, 3.1, 3.10
‘25: 1 1st, 2 2nds, 2 3rds

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Re: Minor Move for Evan Hull

Postby TheTroll » Thu Mar 28, 2024 3:30 pm

Im stuck on 4.01 not being a flier too! :-). Seriously Hull is 4th round fodder so if either way it’s ok.
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Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def

QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE

Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker

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2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

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1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex

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RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert

Taxi: Willis, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Demercado, Vaughn

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Re: Minor Move for Evan Hull

Postby wickerkat1212 » Thu Mar 28, 2024 3:59 pm

yinzername wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:59 pm I’m interested to see if Hull can be the pass catching back in Indy this year, but even still, hard to see what kind of value he’d return with JT and AR as primary running options. Kinda think AR will scramble before a lot of safety valve dump-offs
True.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Minor Move for Evan Hull

Postby wickerkat1212 » Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:00 pm

TheTroll wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 3:30 pm Im stuck on 4.01 not being a flier too! :-). Seriously Hull is 4th round fodder so if either way it’s ok.
I mean, sure, but 4.12 is the LAST pick you're really taking a flier, where 11 picks earlier there might still be a guy there. IMO. 4.01 you might get a Thrash. 4.12 might be Guerendo.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Minor Move for Evan Hull

Postby Black Adam » Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:53 pm

Pardon my ignorance, but is it even confirmed that Hull will back-up JT and it won't be Sermon with Moss in Cincy? :?

I don't blame you for not wanting the 4.12 but getting anything for Hull might be a dub in this case.
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Re: Minor Move for Evan Hull

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Black Adam wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:53 pm Pardon my ignorance, but is it even confirmed that Hull will back-up JT and it won't be Sermon with Moss in Cincy? :?

I don't blame you for not wanting the 4.12 but getting anything for Hull might be a dub in this case.
Hmmmm...you may be right. Some have him 2nd, some Sermon.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Minor Move for Evan Hull

Postby pmart33 » Fri Mar 29, 2024 6:28 am

4.01 = Hull > 4.12

All these pieces are marginal at best but if I had to choose I'd keep Hull and see what he's got. He was the first RB this coaching staff drafted and there's a chance to achieve instant viability if JT goes down again.

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Re: Minor Move for Evan Hull

Postby yinzername » Fri Mar 29, 2024 7:04 am

Black Adam wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:53 pm Pardon my ignorance, but is it even confirmed that Hull will back-up JT and it won't be Sermon with Moss in Cincy? :?

I don't blame you for not wanting the 4.12 but getting anything for Hull might be a dub in this case.
Of course it’s not. But we kind of already know what Sermon is and it ain’t much.
SF - PPR - 12t - start10
Notable Assets in Rebuild
QB: Mahomes - Levis - Rudolph
RB: K Mitchell - J McLaughlin - C Rodriguez - Z Evans
WR: AJB - M Pittman- R Doubs - E Moore - Shaheed - C Tillman- A Iosivas
TE: MAndrews - Kraft
'24: 1.1, 1.7, 2.1, 2.6, 2.10, 3.1, 3.10
‘25: 1 1st, 2 2nds, 2 3rds

2nd year DFF
SF - PPR - 12t - start10
QB: TLaw - Purdy - Goff
RB: Chubb - D Montgomery - D Singletary - A Mattison - K Miller - J Hill
WR: CeeDee - Aiyuk - Rice - Godwin - J Reed - E Moore
TE: Kittle - Kincaid - Chig
picks: 1.09, 2.11

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Re: Minor Move for Evan Hull

Postby Black Adam » Sat Mar 30, 2024 8:36 pm

yinzername wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2024 7:04 am
Black Adam wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:53 pm Pardon my ignorance, but is it even confirmed that Hull will back-up JT and it won't be Sermon with Moss in Cincy? :?

I don't blame you for not wanting the 4.12 but getting anything for Hull might be a dub in this case.
Of course it’s not. But we kind of already know what Sermon is and it ain’t much.
I'll bet on the guy averaging over 4.5YPC versus the guy that averaged 3.12 YPC in the preseason then rushed once for 1 yd and missed the rest of his rookie season in the meantime. :lol:


By all means, we can disagree on this one. :thumbup:
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Re: Minor Move for Evan Hull

Postby yinzername » Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:03 pm

Black Adam wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 8:36 pm
yinzername wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2024 7:04 am
Black Adam wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:53 pm Pardon my ignorance, but is it even confirmed that Hull will back-up JT and it won't be Sermon with Moss in Cincy? :?

I don't blame you for not wanting the 4.12 but getting anything for Hull might be a dub in this case.
Of course it’s not. But we kind of already know what Sermon is and it ain’t much.
I'll bet on the guy averaging over 4.5YPC versus the guy that averaged 3.12 YPC in the preseason then rushed once for 1 yd and missed the rest of his rookie season in the meantime. :lol:


By all means, we can disagree on this one. :thumbup:
Fair. But everyone was averaging plus +4.3 ypc behind that line last year. Tyler Goodson was almost almost 7. And Indy kinda already said with their snap distribution that Sermon ain’t it if JT goes down. For me, I’d want the lotto ticket in Hull, Sermon kinda feels like an already scratched off $1 winner
SF - PPR - 12t - start10
Notable Assets in Rebuild
QB: Mahomes - Levis - Rudolph
RB: K Mitchell - J McLaughlin - C Rodriguez - Z Evans
WR: AJB - M Pittman- R Doubs - E Moore - Shaheed - C Tillman- A Iosivas
TE: MAndrews - Kraft
'24: 1.1, 1.7, 2.1, 2.6, 2.10, 3.1, 3.10
‘25: 1 1st, 2 2nds, 2 3rds

2nd year DFF
SF - PPR - 12t - start10
QB: TLaw - Purdy - Goff
RB: Chubb - D Montgomery - D Singletary - A Mattison - K Miller - J Hill
WR: CeeDee - Aiyuk - Rice - Godwin - J Reed - E Moore
TE: Kittle - Kincaid - Chig
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Re: Minor Move for Evan Hull

Postby wickerkat1212 » Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:34 pm

If the only offer I'm getting from this guy is the 4.12 I'd just rather hold Hull and see if anything happens. I countered with the 4.01 but he hasn't accepted it. It's still a very late pick, but there might be a flier there I like better.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Minor Move for Evan Hull

Postby Black Adam » Sun Mar 31, 2024 11:28 am

yinzername wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:03 pm
Black Adam wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 8:36 pm
yinzername wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2024 7:04 am

Of course it’s not. But we kind of already know what Sermon is and it ain’t much.
I'll bet on the guy averaging over 4.5YPC versus the guy that averaged 3.12 YPC in the preseason then rushed once for 1 yd and missed the rest of his rookie season in the meantime. :lol:


By all means, we can disagree on this one. :thumbup:
Fair. But everyone was averaging plus +4.3 ypc behind that line last year. Tyler Goodson was almost almost 7. And Indy kinda already said with their snap distribution that Sermon ain’t it if JT goes down. For me, I’d want the lotto ticket in Hull, Sermon kinda feels like an already scratched off $1 winner
I don't think we're really on the same page.

I have JT and Moss and Sermon and Sermon is probably droppable in my format.

I'm not saying Sermon is the guy now and Hull is a bum, I'm just saying I wouldn't make a move to acquire Hull when we've basically seen nothing out of him. We know Trey Sermon is just a guy.

BLUF: If he's free, sure feel free to grab Hull off of waivers. But to trade for him? Nah, couldn't be me, especially since we don't know what the depth chart is at this point in time.
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