2025 1st for 2024 1st

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2025 1st for 2024 1st

Postby wickerkat1212 » Tue Mar 26, 2024 8:05 pm

I've decided not to keep trying to get the 1.01 pick for this year in my
12-man, 1 ppr, TEP (2 total PPR) Superflex where we start qb-rb-rb-wr-wr-te-superflex-flex-flex-flex.

I got a good suggestion on here about not targeting the 1.01 but instead trying to get into the top 7 or 8.
I have the 1.02, 1.06, 2.02, 2.04 picks.

What is the lowest first round pick you'd take for my 2025 1st (which could be early)?
Would you offer it to any of the top eight picks?
How far down are you willing to go?

I'd love the idea of the 1.05 or 1.07 to get two picks in a row. I have them ranked, for this league as:

1. Williams
2. Harrison (me)
3. Maye
4. Nabers
5. Daniels
6. Bowers (me)
7. Odunze
8. Thomas

Thoughts?

Superflex #2 in my signature for full roster.
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D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: 2025 1st for 2014 1st

Postby Bulletproof » Tue Mar 26, 2024 8:41 pm

I would probably take the 1.10 honestly, but I kind of doubt anybody will give you that or anything higher
12 Team Superflex Best Ball PPR TEP +1.5
QB: Lawrence, Kyler Murray, O’Connell
RB: Gibbs, Etienne, Javonte Williams, Chase Brown
WR: London, Tank Dell, Pickens JSN, Michael Wilson, Quentin Johnston
TE: McBride, Dulcich

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Re: 2025 1st for 2014 1st

Postby wickerkat1212 » Tue Mar 26, 2024 9:53 pm

Bulletproof wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 8:41 pm I would probably take the 1.10 honestly, but I kind of doubt anybody will give you that or anything higher
You'd go up to the 1.10 but don't think my pick, this year the 1.02, is enough to get anything higher? OOF. Wow.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: 2025 1st for 2024 1st

Postby wickerkat1212 » Tue Mar 26, 2024 9:54 pm

KTC has 2025 early pick - 2024 1.06. Which is about what I'm thinking.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: 2025 1st for 2014 1st

Postby Bulletproof » Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:09 pm

wickerkat1212 wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 9:53 pm
Bulletproof wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 8:41 pm I would probably take the 1.10 honestly, but I kind of doubt anybody will give you that or anything higher
You'd go up to the 1.10 but don't think my pick, this year the 1.02, is enough to get anything higher? OOF. Wow.
I’m confused. What does this year’s 1.02 have to do with anything? I thought we were talking about an unknown 2025 1st?
12 Team Superflex Best Ball PPR TEP +1.5
QB: Lawrence, Kyler Murray, O’Connell
RB: Gibbs, Etienne, Javonte Williams, Chase Brown
WR: London, Tank Dell, Pickens JSN, Michael Wilson, Quentin Johnston
TE: McBride, Dulcich

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Re: 2025 1st for 2024 1st

Postby repkllrs » Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:18 am

wickerkat1212 wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 9:54 pm KTC has 2025 early pick - 2024 1.06. Which is about what I'm thinking.
Everyone thinks that if you can get the 1.06 for a future 1st, you should do that. Short of a Girl Scout league, that will not happen though.
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Re: 2025 1st for 2024 1st

Postby tstafford » Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:27 am

repkllrs wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:18 am
wickerkat1212 wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 9:54 pm KTC has 2025 early pick - 2024 1.06. Which is about what I'm thinking.
Everyone thinks that if you can get the 1.06 for a future 1st, you should do that.
I agree.

I don't care what KTC is saying. I'm 100% not giving the 1.06 for a 2025 1st.

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Re: 2025 1st for 2024 1st

Postby Bulletproof » Wed Mar 27, 2024 5:34 am

Oh sorry, I just re-read this, this morning and think I understand what you’re saying. Since you have the 1.02 this year, your 2025 1st should be perceived by others to be early. I wouldn’t make that assessment and don’t think many other owners would either.

I view it with a lot of uncertainty. Your team has some good players and has the 1.02 and 1.06 so there’s a good chance your team improves. You also seem like you might make a lot of moves which increases the chances of improvement. The other issue is we are pretty much at peak value for this year’s rookie picks…after the combine but before the draft. This year’s draft class looks loaded and deep relative to most years. I don’t have a good feel for what next year’s class is like. It could be a dud. So there’s a lot of risk moving a 2024 1st for a 25 not to mention you have to wait a year

There’s likely 4 QBs going in the first round and lots of very good WRs and Bowers. So this pushes more solid non QBs down the board. Where next year could be a year like 2022 when the only one bad QB when in the first round, Kenny Pickett.

If you want to try to do this, I would recommend offering if for the 1.07 and 1.08 and see what happens. If you don’t want to go any later than that then don’t. But I’m viewing the 1.10 this year closer to the 1.06 a lot of years
12 Team Superflex Best Ball PPR TEP +1.5
QB: Lawrence, Kyler Murray, O’Connell
RB: Gibbs, Etienne, Javonte Williams, Chase Brown
WR: London, Tank Dell, Pickens JSN, Michael Wilson, Quentin Johnston
TE: McBride, Dulcich

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Re: 2025 1st for 2024 1st

Postby Viking386 » Wed Mar 27, 2024 6:13 am

The 1.08 is where Id start looking at teams I think will have an early 25 1st. For me that is a massive tier drop.
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12 Team 1 QB PPR
-Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE and 2 Flex

QB: Anthony Richardson
RB: Nobody worth typing
WR: ARSB, Olave, Nico Collins, Tyquan Thornton, Marvin Mims, Tre Tucker, Bell, Austin,
TE: McBride and Dulcich

Draft Picks
-1.01, 1.07, 2 24 3rds and 4 24 4ths.
-4 25 1sts, 3 25 3rds and 3 25 4ths
-3 26 1sts, 2 26 2nds, 1 26 3rd, and1 26 4th

2022 Champions in full rebuild. Looking to contend again in 2025.

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Re: 2025 1st for 2024 1st

Postby BigBawseRoss » Wed Mar 27, 2024 6:16 am

random future first usually only gets you into back half of the first at best unless you got a glaring dumpster fire of a team.

ive traded my future first for 1.12 a bunch but idk how many times ive ever seen a 1 for 1 future first for a current one where the current first was a premium pick (talking many leagues over many years and various formats)
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: 2025 1st for 2024 1st

Postby TheTroll » Wed Mar 27, 2024 6:29 am

BigBawseRoss wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 6:16 am random future first usually only gets you into back half of the first at best unless you got a glaring dumpster fire of a team.

ive traded my future first for 1.12 a bunch but idk how many times ive ever seen a 1 for 1 future first for a current one where the current first was a premium pick (talking many leagues over many years and various formats)
yeppers...discounted and can never tell where the future is really going to lie.
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def

QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE

Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker

Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex

QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert

Taxi: Willis, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Demercado, Vaughn

Picks
2024: 1.08, 2.02
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: 2025 1st for 2024 1st

Postby SoftwoodGrampian » Wed Mar 27, 2024 6:31 am

Top 3 WR top 4 QB top TE then there’s a drop. That said, I’d still prefer taking a player in the 1.9 to 1.12 range than to kick the can. Also most years one more sneaks in to the top tier (ex Brooks to Dallas, Thomas to Buf). And yes, cannot predict where the 1st will go. All that said, you might be able to land the 1.9-1.12 but I haven’t seen that trade go down at all.

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Re: 2025 1st for 2014 1st

Postby wickerkat1212 » Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:25 am

Bulletproof wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:09 pm
wickerkat1212 wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 9:53 pm
Bulletproof wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 8:41 pm I would probably take the 1.10 honestly, but I kind of doubt anybody will give you that or anything higher
You'd go up to the 1.10 but don't think my pick, this year the 1.02, is enough to get anything higher? OOF. Wow.
I’m confused. What does this year’s 1.02 have to do with anything? I thought we were talking about an unknown 2025 1st?
Just stating where I ended up, in 11th place last year, so I expect the pick next year will be early.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: 2025 1st for 2024 1st

Postby wickerkat1212 » Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:26 am

repkllrs wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:18 am
wickerkat1212 wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 9:54 pm KTC has 2025 early pick - 2024 1.06. Which is about what I'm thinking.
Everyone thinks that if you can get the 1.06 for a future 1st, you should do that. Short of a Girl Scout league, that will not happen though.
IDK. My hope is that people see my CURRENT pick at 1.02 and think, "I can get a 25 1.02 for a 24 1.04-1.08." IDK if they will feel that way.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: 2025 1st for 2024 1st

Postby wickerkat1212 » Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:26 am

tstafford wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:27 am
repkllrs wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:18 am
wickerkat1212 wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 9:54 pm KTC has 2025 early pick - 2024 1.06. Which is about what I'm thinking.
Everyone thinks that if you can get the 1.06 for a future 1st, you should do that.
I agree.

I don't care what KTC is saying. I'm 100% not giving the 1.06 for a 2025 1st.
Fair enough. I feel the same way.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble


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