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Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:16 am**

12-man, 1 ppr, TEP (2 total PPR), we start qb-rb-rb-wr-wr-te-superflex-flex-flex-flex.
Superflex #2 in signature, I came in 11th place last year.
Added in Bijan, JSN, Downs last year in the draft, DJM via trade.
New orphan, my second year, I have the 1.02, 1.06, 2.02, 2.04.

I'm trying to get the 1.01.
He uses KTC for evaluation.
I offered Cousins + 25 1st (assume early) he passed. Was -500 at KTC for him.
I offered Cousins + 25 1st (early) + 25 2nd (early) + 24 2.04. KTC is 16,000 to 12,000 in HIS FAVOR. No response yet.

I want to keep my picks at 1.02 and 1.06 if possible.

So my question is this—how much are you willing to move to get the 1.01?
I'll see what he says on the Cousins + early 25 1st + two early seconds.
I'd be willing to add the 2.02 to the mix if I had to.
I'm okay not making this trade happen if I have to add the 1.06, I'll just take my four picks.

Thoughts?

PS: If I keep my picks I'm hoping to get something like Williams/Harrison, Bowers, McConkey, Mitchell with my picks.

THANKS!

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:42 am**

What does his team look like? If I earned the 1.01, I have zero interest in Cousins. No matter what KTC says.

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:46 am**

well I’m fine giving that up in a vacuum but philosophically I don’t like this as my personal approach to rebuild:
1) I would almost never move my next year first if I’m rebuilding. Sure there’s circumstances where the values too good but personally if I’m not contending I’m tanking until I have resources enough to flip and compete.
2) while start crazy 10 isn’t deep, it’s not shallow either. I’m not trying to consolidate assets with your current roster, I want to be throwing more darts and having more if anything. I’d want Build as much equity as possible and when you have enough then you consolidate into a consolidate.

Anyways aside from the overall strategy aspect, for the actual trade if you’re deadset on getting Caleb, it’s probably light if anything, despite what the calculator says. Cousins and a future 1st isn’t all that attractive on paper.

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:50 am**

repkllrs wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:42 am What does his team look like? If I earned the 1.01, I have zero interest in Cousins. No matter what KTC says.

He earned the 1.01. Just like I earned the 1.02.
Honestly, maybe he goes Harrison here, with Love and Young.

Hooker, Hendon DET QB ‐ - Trade
Love, Jordan GBP QB 361.06 - Trade
Pickett, Kenny PHI QB 114.20 - Trade
Young, Bryce CAR QB 158.38 - Trade

Charbonnet, Zach SEA RB 106.10 - Trade
Herbert, Khalil CHI RB 112.50 - Trade
Murray, Latavius BUF RB 82.90 - Trade
Pacheco, Isiah KCC RB 213.90 - Trade
Spiller, Isaiah LAC RB 19.00 - Trade
Williams, Jamaal NOS RB 60.80 - Trade

Bateman, Rashod BAL WR 76.50 - Trade
Beckham, Odell FA WR 107.50 - Trade
Dortch, Greg ARI WR 64.50 - Trade
Duvernay, Devin JAC WR 7.30 - Trade
Moore, Elijah CLE WR 132.10 - Trade
Palmer, Josh LAC WR (Q) 106.70 - Trade
Raymond, Kalif DET WR (Q) 97.40 - Trade
Ridley, Calvin TEN WR 229.90 - Trade
Sutton, Courtland DEN WR (Q) 190.20 - Trade
Thomas, Michael FA WR (Q) 89.80 - Trade
Valdes-Scantling, Marquez FA WR 56.50 - Trade
Williams, Mike NYJ WR (Q) 50.20 - Trade

Sample, Drew CIN TE 72.30 - Trade
Schoonmaker, Luke DAL TE 34.50 - Trade
Thomas, Logan FA TE (Q) 181.80 - Trade
Washington, Darnell PIT TE 20.10 - Trade
Woods, Jelani IND TE (Q) ‐ - Trade
Wright, Brock DET TE (Q) 41.10 - Trade

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:51 am**

If the guy earned the 1-01 he will want something besides an aging Cousins , I think you have get the other picks involved for sure.

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:52 am**

Mtt33 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:46 am well I’m fine giving that up in a vacuum but philosophically I don’t like this as my personal approach to rebuild:
1) I would almost never move my next year first if I’m rebuilding. Sure there’s circumstances where the values too good but personally if I’m not contending I’m tanking until I have resources enough to flip and compete.
2) while start crazy 10 isn’t deep, it’s not shallow either. I’m not trying to consolidate assets with your current roster, I want to be throwing more darts and having more if anything. I’d want Build as much equity as possible and when you have enough then you consolidate into a consolidate.

Anyways aside from the overall strategy aspect, for the actual trade if you’re deadset on getting Caleb, it’s probably light if anything, despite what the calculator says. Cousins and a future 1st isn’t all that attractive on paper.

I'm okay moving the 1.02 to get the 1.01. It's just a matter of how much I'm willing to give up. I'd love to get both Williams/Harrison here. I agree on more picks, that's why I moved a few assets to get the other picks.

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:53 am**

Tvols wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:51 am If the guy earned the 1-01 he will want something besides an aging Cousins , I think you have get the other picks involved for sure.

I'd be willing to go up to Cousins + 25 1st, 25 2nd, 2.02, 2.04. If he wants more than that then I'm out. And he may.

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 11:11 am**

wickerkat1212 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:50 am
repkllrs wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:42 am What does his team look like? If I earned the 1.01, I have zero interest in Cousins. No matter what KTC says.
He earned the 1.01. Just like I earned the 1.02.
Honestly, maybe he goes Harrison here, with Love and Young.

Hooker, Hendon DET QB ‐ - Trade
Love, Jordan GBP QB 361.06 - Trade
Pickett, Kenny PHI QB 114.20 - Trade
Young, Bryce CAR QB 158.38 - Trade

Charbonnet, Zach SEA RB 106.10 - Trade
Herbert, Khalil CHI RB 112.50 - Trade
Murray, Latavius BUF RB 82.90 - Trade
Pacheco, Isiah KCC RB 213.90 - Trade
Spiller, Isaiah LAC RB 19.00 - Trade
Williams, Jamaal NOS RB 60.80 - Trade

Bateman, Rashod BAL WR 76.50 - Trade
Beckham, Odell FA WR 107.50 - Trade
Dortch, Greg ARI WR 64.50 - Trade
Duvernay, Devin JAC WR 7.30 - Trade
Moore, Elijah CLE WR 132.10 - Trade
Palmer, Josh LAC WR (Q) 106.70 - Trade
Raymond, Kalif DET WR (Q) 97.40 - Trade
Ridley, Calvin TEN WR 229.90 - Trade
Sutton, Courtland DEN WR (Q) 190.20 - Trade
Thomas, Michael FA WR (Q) 89.80 - Trade
Valdes-Scantling, Marquez FA WR 56.50 - Trade
Williams, Mike NYJ WR (Q) 50.20 - Trade

Sample, Drew CIN TE 72.30 - Trade
Schoonmaker, Luke DAL TE 34.50 - Trade
Thomas, Logan FA TE (Q) 181.80 - Trade
Washington, Darnell PIT TE 20.10 - Trade
Woods, Jelani IND TE (Q) ‐ - Trade
Wright, Brock DET TE (Q) 41.10 - Trade

This does not look like a roster where I’d want any part of Kirk. He’s in super rebuild mode imo.

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 11:17 am**

^^^^yeah, I'll make my offers, but I expect him to reject. In looking at his roster his team is worse than mind. His core players are bad. I guess that's why I thought he'd rather have four picks, with three 2nds and a 1st than just the 1.01. Him getting Williams or Harrison isn't going to help him. He has the 1.01, and the .01 in all other rounds, as well as the 1.12. IDK, I'll offer and see. Honestly, it's not about Cousins as it's more about him getting more picks.

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 11:36 am**

wickerkat1212 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 11:17 am ^^^^yeah, I'll make my offers, but I expect him to reject. In looking at his roster his team is worse than mind. His core players are bad. I guess that's why I thought he'd rather have four picks, with three 2nds and a 1st than just the 1.01. Him getting Williams or Harrison isn't going to help him. He has the 1.01, and the .01 in all other rounds, as well as the 1.12. IDK, I'll offer and see. Honestly, it's not about Cousins as it's more about him getting more picks.

If i had a $1 for every time Wick was trying to move up to 1.01.... actually i'm not sure. There is a joke in there somewhere.

seriously. unless you are 1 piece away from Titletown, don't give up the farm for 1 spot brutha.

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 12:56 pm**

TheTroll wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 11:36 am
wickerkat1212 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 11:17 am ^^^^yeah, I'll make my offers, but I expect him to reject. In looking at his roster his team is worse than mind. His core players are bad. I guess that's why I thought he'd rather have four picks, with three 2nds and a 1st than just the 1.01. Him getting Williams or Harrison isn't going to help him. He has the 1.01, and the .01 in all other rounds, as well as the 1.12. IDK, I'll offer and see. Honestly, it's not about Cousins as it's more about him getting more picks.
If i had a $1 for every time Wick was trying to move up to 1.01.... actually i'm not sure. There is a joke in there somewhere.

seriously. unless you are 1 piece away from Titletown, don't give up the farm for 1 spot brutha.

I got to the 1.01 from the 1.09 in one league where I was in 1st/2nd all year. So, why not take a shot on this one? I also got three shares of Bijan last year so...we'll see how this all shakes out. Just having fun, trying to wheel and deal.

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 1:51 pm**

wickerkat1212 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 11:17 am ^^^^yeah, I'll make my offers, but I expect him to reject. In looking at his roster his team is worse than mind. His core players are bad. I guess that's why I thought he'd rather have four picks, with three 2nds and a 1st than just the 1.01. Him getting Williams or Harrison isn't going to help him. He has the 1.01, and the .01 in all other rounds, as well as the 1.12. IDK, I'll offer and see. Honestly, it's not about Cousins as it's more about him getting more picks.

A future 1st and 3x 2nds doesn't even merit a response for 1.01 honestly. If I'm in a rebuild with a generational prospect at QB, I draft said generational prospect and pray. Or I trade him for an elite, young QB and another early to mid 1st or multiple future picks. No scenario where I'd accept any of your offers so far, they just don't make sense for my (in this thought exercise) build.

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 2:39 pm**

Why use Cousins to move up? Most folks who earned the 1.01 the hard way aren't going to want Cousins.

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 2:44 pm**

Menace2010 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 1:51 pm
wickerkat1212 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 11:17 am ^^^^yeah, I'll make my offers, but I expect him to reject. In looking at his roster his team is worse than mind. His core players are bad. I guess that's why I thought he'd rather have four picks, with three 2nds and a 1st than just the 1.01. Him getting Williams or Harrison isn't going to help him. He has the 1.01, and the .01 in all other rounds, as well as the 1.12. IDK, I'll offer and see. Honestly, it's not about Cousins as it's more about him getting more picks.
A future 1st and 3x 2nds doesn't even merit a response for 1.01 honestly. If I'm in a rebuild with a generational prospect at QB, I draft said generational prospect and pray. Or I trade him for an elite, young QB and another early to mid 1st or multiple future picks. No scenario where I'd accept any of your offers so far, they just don't make sense for my (in this thought exercise) build.

Yeah, I hear you. He may feel differently. He didn't seem offended by the first offer, and the second offer is in his favor, according to KTC, which he uses as an evaluation tool. He'll probably pass, but I'll take the shots. You never know. But thanks for chiming in, I don't DISAGREE with you LOL.

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 2:45 pm**

tstafford wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 2:39 pm Why use Cousins to move up? Most folks who earned the 1.01 the hard way aren't going to want Cousins.

I thought Cousins would be a nice bridge, and I want to keep Goff, so I just thought I'd see what he said. Had to start somewhere.

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