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Moving Cousins

Postby wickerkat1212 » Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:27 am

in 12-man, Superflex, 1 PPR, TEP (2 PPRS), I got a offer for Cousins.
Orphan, year two of rebuild, Superflex #2 in signature.
I only have two starting QB—Cousins and Goff.
I have the 1.02, 1.06, 2.02, 2.04.

Guy offered his 2025 1st for Cousins straight up.
He has Stround, DJones, Rudolph.
I don't like it. Seems light. This guy has a TON of picks, and this year's he's at 1.05.

What would it take to move off of Cousins?
I think he's going to be HUGE in ATL. Has 3+ years left IMO.

I was thinking 1.05 + Jones? + 3.05? With 1.02, 1.05, 1.06 I could get a QB.

He has:

Year 2024 Draft Pick 1.05
Year 2024 Draft Pick 3.05
Year 2024 Draft Pick 3.08
Year 2024 Draft Pick 3.12
Year 2024 Draft Pick 4.05
Year 2024 Draft Pick 4.12

And 2025

Year 2025 Round 1 Draft Pick from ROOK
Year 2025 Round 1 Draft Pick from Rushing Koalas
Year 2025 Round 2 Draft Pick from ROOK
Year 2025 Round 2 Draft Pick from Rushing Koalas
Year 2025 Round 3 Draft Pick from ROOK
Year 2025 Round 3 Draft Pick from Rushing Koalas
Year 2025 Round 4 Draft Pick from ROOK
Year 2025 Round 4 Draft Pick from Rushing Koalas
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Moving Cousins

Postby frerichs5 » Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:45 am

If you think he will be that good for 3 years, your best bet is to hold him. Highly unlikely IMO anyone will trade 1.05 for him, but worth a shot if you feel like it.

Later 1st or 2025 1st is pretty fair in my opinion. But if I’m competing, I’m just holding him.

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Re: Moving Cousins

Postby wickerkat1212 » Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:52 am

frerichs5 wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:45 am If you think he will be that good for 3 years, your best bet is to hold him. Highly unlikely IMO anyone will trade 1.05 for him, but worth a shot if you feel like it.

Later 1st or 2025 1st is pretty fair in my opinion. But if I’m competing, I’m just holding him.
I'm not competing yet, second year of orphan, but I only have two QBs. I think I'd do it for 1.05 assuming I get a QB with one of my top three picks.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Moving Cousins

Postby pmart33 » Wed Mar 20, 2024 11:13 am

Tell him you're willing to take 2025 picks but that you feel 1 isn't enough if you're waiting another year to get anything in return. Ask for 2 2025 1sts and see what he comes back with. I don't think the offer will be accepted straight away, but its a good way to find out what he's willing to add to his original offer.

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Re: Moving Cousins

Postby frerichs5 » Wed Mar 20, 2024 11:35 am

wickerkat1212 wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:52 am
frerichs5 wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:45 am If you think he will be that good for 3 years, your best bet is to hold him. Highly unlikely IMO anyone will trade 1.05 for him, but worth a shot if you feel like it.

Later 1st or 2025 1st is pretty fair in my opinion. But if I’m competing, I’m just holding him.
I'm not competing yet, second year of orphan, but I only have two QBs. I think I'd do it for 1.05 assuming I get a QB with one of my top three picks.
I’d smash the 1.05 if I’m not competing. I just don’t think many are willing to give that up for him.

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Re: Moving Cousins

Postby wickerkat1212 » Wed Mar 20, 2024 12:30 pm

pmart33 wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2024 11:13 am Tell him you're willing to take 2025 picks but that you feel 1 isn't enough if you're waiting another year to get anything in return. Ask for 2 2025 1sts and see what he comes back with. I don't think the offer will be accepted straight away, but its a good way to find out what he's willing to add to his original offer.
I like that.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Moving Cousins

Postby wickerkat1212 » Wed Mar 20, 2024 12:31 pm

frerichs5 wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2024 11:35 am
wickerkat1212 wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:52 am
frerichs5 wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:45 am If you think he will be that good for 3 years, your best bet is to hold him. Highly unlikely IMO anyone will trade 1.05 for him, but worth a shot if you feel like it.

Later 1st or 2025 1st is pretty fair in my opinion. But if I’m competing, I’m just holding him.
I'm not competing yet, second year of orphan, but I only have two QBs. I think I'd do it for 1.05 assuming I get a QB with one of my top three picks.
I’d smash the 1.05 if I’m not competing. I just don’t think many are willing to give that up for him.
Yeah, I think I'm not ready to compete BUT I lost Cousins last year. Hasn't offered the 1.05, I just put that out there. So I'll make some counters.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Moving Cousins

Postby wickerkat1212 » Wed Mar 20, 2024 12:58 pm

I offered Cousins for 24 1.05, he rejected it. Offered Cousins for 2025 two 1sts (probably mid to late), he passed.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Moving Cousins

Postby wickerkat1212 » Wed Mar 20, 2024 1:05 pm

What about offering Cousins for 25 1st (his, probably mid) + 25 2nd + 24 3.05 + 24 3.08?
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Moving Cousins

Postby moishetreats » Wed Mar 20, 2024 1:15 pm

I'd take the 2025 1st and be happy. If that's even still available at this point...
10 tms 27 plrs PPR
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball

QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble

2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th



12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball

QB: Lawrence (contract through 2026), Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Bijan Robinson ('25), Pollard ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $186

IR: --
TAXI SQUAD (4 max): --

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Re: Moving Cousins

Postby wickerkat1212 » Wed Mar 20, 2024 1:28 pm

moishetreats wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2024 1:15 pm I'd take the 2025 1st and be happy. If that's even still available at this point...
It is. I think Cousins has three more pretty elite years left in him. I don't have two starting QBs. I may get one in the draft but maybe not. All this would do would make me tank another year.

He has two 1sts—his own which should be closer to 1.05 and the one he offered me which might be 1.11. I'd rather keep Cousins than take the 1.11.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Moving Cousins

Postby wickerkat1212 » Wed Mar 20, 2024 1:37 pm

He took Mayfield instead, with an offer of the same 1st + 3rd. Oh well. LOL.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Moving Cousins

Postby Menace2010 » Wed Mar 20, 2024 3:05 pm

Yeah, on no planet is Cousins worth 1.05. But agree a 2025 late 1st doesn't seem like enough. Probably would have went for a 2024 2nd and future 1st. Too late now. I'd still shop him to other contenders.

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Re: Moving Cousins

Postby wickerkat1212 » Wed Mar 20, 2024 4:06 pm

Menace2010 wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2024 3:05 pm Yeah, on no planet is Cousins worth 1.05. But agree a 2025 late 1st doesn't seem like enough. Probably would have went for a 2024 2nd and future 1st. Too late now. I'd still shop him to other contenders.
Yeah, tried a few counters, but when he can get Mayfield (so much younger) for only a 3rd round pick more, I don't blame him. I think a team going all-in could move the 1.05. Problem is I love certain players in 24, not so much 2025.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble


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