Did you attend Michigan? Or got rejected by Ohio State? I don't really understand your logic other than the Ohio State angle - it seems to be 10x more important to you than quality of targets, QB play, offensive ineptitude, draft capital, etc.MacDaddy123 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 3:56 pm
I regularly see Wilson ahead of Puka and AJB, I don't think he should be over either. I also have Nabers over Wilson.
I could also make cases for Aiyuk, Tyreek, Waddle, Higgins, and maybe even Olave over Wilson if we are actually counting production.
I also have Waddle, Higgins and London above GW/Olave.
I mean Olave has averaged 13.85 PPR PPG through his first 2 seasons, and GW has averaged 12.6 PPR PPG through his first 2 seasons.
Dudes like Waddle, 15.3 PPR PPG though his first 2 seasons, Higgins, 14.3 though his first 2 seasons, are behind Olave and GW, seemingly only because they did not attend Ohio State.
Is Devon Achane’s value low right now?
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QB: J. Hurts, K. Murray
RB: Bi. Robinson, D. Henry, D. Achane, , J. Cook, Z. Charbonnet, T. Chandler, R. Johnson, K. Mitchell, J.K. Dobbins, T. Allgeier, J. McLaughlin, S. Tucker, T. Bigsby
WR: G. Wilson, B. Aiyuk, J. Waddle, T. Higgins,, Z. Flowers, Di. Johnson, K. Toney, A. Iosivas
TE: K. Pitts, E. Engram, C. Okonkwo, G. Dulcich
QB: J. Hurts, K. Murray
RB: Bi. Robinson, D. Henry, D. Achane, , J. Cook, Z. Charbonnet, T. Chandler, R. Johnson, K. Mitchell, J.K. Dobbins, T. Allgeier, J. McLaughlin, S. Tucker, T. Bigsby
WR: G. Wilson, B. Aiyuk, J. Waddle, T. Higgins,, Z. Flowers, Di. Johnson, K. Toney, A. Iosivas
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Re: Is Devon Achane’s value low right now?
No, not at all.kmbryant09 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 08, 2024 10:54 amDid you attend Michigan? Or got rejected by Ohio State? I don't really understand your logic other than the Ohio State angle - it seems to be 10x more important to you than quality of targets, QB play, offensive ineptitude, draft capital, etc.MacDaddy123 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 3:56 pm
I regularly see Wilson ahead of Puka and AJB, I don't think he should be over either. I also have Nabers over Wilson.
I could also make cases for Aiyuk, Tyreek, Waddle, Higgins, and maybe even Olave over Wilson if we are actually counting production.
I also have Waddle, Higgins and London above GW/Olave.
I mean Olave has averaged 13.85 PPR PPG through his first 2 seasons, and GW has averaged 12.6 PPR PPG through his first 2 seasons.
Dudes like Waddle, 15.3 PPR PPG though his first 2 seasons, Higgins, 14.3 though his first 2 seasons, are behind Olave and GW, seemingly only because they did not attend Ohio State.
many dynasty players are over-valued, and many are under-valued.
I'm just trying to understand why Wilson, Olave, and JSN are all over-rated.
Maybe you have a better explanation. Maybe it is a coincidence that all 3 went to the same school.
JSN has a VERY bad year, yet excuses are flowing freely everywhere.
Facts are that here is a list of WR's who got 1st round NFL Draft capital, then went on to score fewer than 9 PPR PPG in their rookie season:
Jaxon Smith-Njigba
Quentin Johnston
Treylon Burks
Jameson Williams
Rashod Bateman
Henry Ruggs
Jalen Reagor
N'Keal Harry
Corey Davis
Mike Williams
John Ross
Will Fuller V
Josh Doctson
Laquon Treadwell
Kevin White
DeVante Parker
Nelson Agholor
Breshad Perriman
Phillip Dorsett
Here are some players that scored over 9 points as a rookie, so they couldn't make the list:
Kadarious Toney
Kelvin Benjamin
Corey Coleman
Now only 1 player on this list who's fantasy value has not taken a hit, despite historically poor performance.
Let's see if you can figure out who here is over-valued.
Re: Is Devon Achane’s value low right now?
Lol now that's funny!kmbryant09 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 08, 2024 10:54 amDid you attend Michigan? Or got rejected by Ohio State? I don't really understand your logic other than the Ohio State angle - it seems to be 10x more important to you than quality of targets, QB play, offensive ineptitude, draft capital, etc.MacDaddy123 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 3:56 pm
I regularly see Wilson ahead of Puka and AJB, I don't think he should be over either. I also have Nabers over Wilson.
I could also make cases for Aiyuk, Tyreek, Waddle, Higgins, and maybe even Olave over Wilson if we are actually counting production.
I also have Waddle, Higgins and London above GW/Olave.
I mean Olave has averaged 13.85 PPR PPG through his first 2 seasons, and GW has averaged 12.6 PPR PPG through his first 2 seasons.
Dudes like Waddle, 15.3 PPR PPG though his first 2 seasons, Higgins, 14.3 though his first 2 seasons, are behind Olave and GW, seemingly only because they did not attend Ohio State.
Re: Is Devon Achane’s value low right now?
Achane is a stud with obvious potential injury
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1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def
QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE
Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker
Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex
QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert
Taxi: Willis, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Demercado, Vaughn
Picks
2024: 1.08, 2.02
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
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QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE
Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker
Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex
QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert
Taxi: Willis, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Demercado, Vaughn
Picks
2024: 1.08, 2.02
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
Re: Is Devon Achane’s value low right now?
Agreed. Feels like we have a few guys like this - Achane, Dell and AR come to mind. People are going to need to either gamble or sit out. I don't think any of them are going to come at much of a discount. Someone in most leagues will pay up. I've decided I'm in on all three. I love AR's upside in 1QB where finding a replacement is easier. Of the three Achane scares me the most - but I bought him in my SF league anyway.
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Re: Is Devon Achane’s value low right now?
I think buying shrimpy running backs is too risky for me to give up premium draft capital. He might be worth it, but I would rather spend the value I would need to get him (which is currently a lot) on something less risky.
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QB's: Fields, Wentz,
RB: D. Harris, D. Montgomery, Kendre M.
WR: Chase, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Waller, J. Woods, Dulich, Mayer
Team 2: 12 Team SF 1ppr, Start 10
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Watson
RB: Hall, Walker, Javonte, Pacheco, K Mitchell, Dobbins
WR: Godwin, JSN, Pittman, Pickens, Toney, DP Jones, S Moore
TE: Andrews, Fant, Likely
(2024) 1.03, 2.03, 3.03
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QB: AR, Watson, Young, Levis
RB: ETN, Walker, Pierce, Akers, Pacheco, Herbert, Warren, Kelley
WR: G. Wilson, Higgins, Godwin, Kirk, Bateman, Collins, Doubs, Chark, Shaheed,
TE: Schultz, I Smith, Bellinger, Parham, Fant, Likely, Granson,
QB's: Fields, Wentz,
RB: D. Harris, D. Montgomery, Kendre M.
WR: Chase, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Waller, J. Woods, Dulich, Mayer
Team 2: 12 Team SF 1ppr, Start 10
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Watson
RB: Hall, Walker, Javonte, Pacheco, K Mitchell, Dobbins
WR: Godwin, JSN, Pittman, Pickens, Toney, DP Jones, S Moore
TE: Andrews, Fant, Likely
(2024) 1.03, 2.03, 3.03
(2025) Top 3 1st, my 1st
Team 3 SF, TEP, Start 11 ppr
QB: AR, Watson, Young, Levis
RB: ETN, Walker, Pierce, Akers, Pacheco, Herbert, Warren, Kelley
WR: G. Wilson, Higgins, Godwin, Kirk, Bateman, Collins, Doubs, Chark, Shaheed,
TE: Schultz, I Smith, Bellinger, Parham, Fant, Likely, Granson,
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