Bowers with No Primo

[Peener]

Ignoring QB's, is he still just behind the top 3 WR's in no premium league? Or do you have him falling behind the next few guys too?

[Mtt33]

Starting spots matters here, extra flexes = boost to WRs, shallow makes the 1 te slot more important.
In general tho I’d have him 4th here, draft will dictate if he stays there.

[tstafford]

Starting spots matters here, extra flexes = boost to WRs, shallow makes the 1 te slot more important.
In general tho I’d have him 4th here, draft will dictate if he stays there.

Well said.

[BHSU]

Question is would anyone be disappointed in being at 1.4 and having to get either Bowers or Odunze? Rookie TEs (and heck young TEs in general) aren't normally Laportas or Kincaid's. Sometimes it takes 3 years for TEs to really break out. As for Odunze, guy really doesn't move the needle for me. Kinda very solid but nothing special at all.

[wickerkat1212]

I like Bowers A LOT. For me he's the 1.04 unless you are desperate for a QB and want Williams.

[MacDaddy123]

Question is would anyone be disappointed in being at 1.4 and having to get either Bowers or Odunze? Rookie TEs (and heck young TEs in general) aren't normally Laportas or Kincaid's. Sometimes it takes 3 years for TEs to really break out. As for Odunze, guy really doesn't move the needle for me. Kinda very solid but nothing special at all.

In non-TEP leagues, I expect Odunze will go ahead of Bowers in 90% of drafts or more.
You are not alone on Odunze, I know others questioning him as WR3 now as well.

Still a LONG way to go until rookie drafts get here, so don't panic about who to pick now.
Take a look at Brian Thomas Jr. film and combine performance, as I know a few who are now considering moving BTJ to WR3 and dropping Odunze to WR4.
Odunze is much closer to BTJ than he is to Nabers.

[Peener]

Starting spots matters here, extra flexes = boost to WRs, shallow makes the 1 te slot more important.
In general tho I’d have him 4th here, draft will dictate if he stays there.

This specific league is quite shallow, a start 8 - 16 teamer.

Surprised no one has suggested he'd drop a spot or two tbh. The same argument some of ye are making for BTR over Odunze could also be made for BTR over Bowers right? (Assuming Odunze stays at the 1.03, so then for example at BTR 1.04, Bowers at 1.05). But I guess in a shallow league I'm trying to get the difference makers.

[killer_of_giants]

start 8 in a 16 teamer give TEs a nice value, they will make a difference. i'd still probably take the day 2 RB to the cowboys over bowers and spend big on a sure thing TE over drafting a TE top 4.

[Mtt33]

start 8 in a 16 teamer give TEs a nice value, they will make a difference. i'd still probably take the day 2 RB to the cowboys over bowers and spend big on a sure thing TE over drafting a TE top 4.

I don’t have a problem with the spend on established te vs draft 1 move. I would absolutely not draft an rb in this class over bowers though. I think historical stats on drafting TE are more or less useless due to how much te and how the league uses it has changed over the years. Pitts scares me a bit but I’m still pretty confident in drafting bowers. Personally.

[killer_of_giants]

start 8 in a 16 teamer give TEs a nice value, they will make a difference. i'd still probably take the day 2 RB to the cowboys over bowers and spend big on a sure thing TE over drafting a TE top 4.

I don’t have a problem with the spend on established te vs draft 1 move. I would absolutely not draft an rb in this class over bowers though. I think historical stats on drafting TE are more or less useless due to how much te and how the league uses it has changed over the years. Pitts scares me a bit but I’m still pretty confident in drafting bowers. Personally.

i can see a brooks (or any other RB drafted early to be the main man) increasing value after one year (or even less) an bowers losing it. of course, if trading back is an option, i'd do that, but it's always easier said than done.

[BigBawseRoss]

love bowers but im just totally burned out on highly drafted tes and what they must deliver to make the investment worth it. had laporta been touted in this same regard i might feel differently but he was largely seen as te3 and was a 2nd round pick. almost all the dudes that have gotten this type of top 5 hype have largely made drafters wish they didnt buy into said hype

[yinzername]

in non TE Prem I now have BTJ as my WR4 and ahead of Bowers

[Tvols]

im not buying TE high in drafts , they bust way too much , I have a few wrs over bowers in a NON-TE premium league.

[Peener]

Curious about coming back to this now that we're after the draft. Anyone got more solid/changed opinions?

[wickerkat1212]

I've seen him anywhere from 5-8. So, take that FWIW.