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Re: Not at all early 2025 Draft thread

Postby 81- » Wed May 01, 2024 12:25 pm

Lumps wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 11:39 am Our devy draft just completed. It was the initial one where we draft the picks during the startup, so not everyone had one, etc.

Best ball, 12 team, SF, PPR, 1 TEP, devy
Start 11 - QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 4 WRT, SF

Devy 1.01: Jeremiah Smith WR OSU
Devy 1.02: Luther Burden III, Missouri
devy 1.03 teitoroa mcmillan, arizona
devy 1.04 quinshon judkins, OSU
devy 1.05 nick singleton rb
devy 1.06 arch manning
devy 1.07 emeka egugbka
devy 1.08 treyveon henderson
devy 1.09 Julian Sayin
devy 1.10 Evan Stewart WR Oregon
devy 1.11 Justice Haynes RB Alabama
devy 1.12 Ashton Jeanty RB BSU

Bolded are mine. Evan Stewart at 1.10 in a startup devy is just crazy value. Jeanty has not been mentioned here aside from the PFF thing above, but he is flying under the radar. Of course I'm biased because I took those guys, but I stand by it. :lol:
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Re: Not at all early 2025 Draft thread

Postby Lumps » Wed May 01, 2024 12:27 pm

81- wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 12:25 pm
Lumps wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 11:39 am Our devy draft just completed. It was the initial one where we draft the picks during the startup, so not everyone had one, etc.

Best ball, 12 team, SF, PPR, 1 TEP, devy
Start 11 - QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 4 WRT, SF

Devy 1.01: Jeremiah Smith WR OSU
Devy 1.02: Luther Burden III, Missouri
devy 1.03 teitoroa mcmillan, arizona
devy 1.04 quinshon judkins, OSU
devy 1.05 nick singleton rb
devy 1.06 arch manning
devy 1.07 emeka egugbka
devy 1.08 treyveon henderson
devy 1.09 Julian Sayin
devy 1.10 Evan Stewart WR Oregon
devy 1.11 Justice Haynes RB Alabama
devy 1.12 Ashton Jeanty RB BSU

Bolded are mine. Evan Stewart at 1.10 in a startup devy is just crazy value. Jeanty has not been mentioned here aside from the PFF thing above, but he is flying under the radar. Of course I'm biased because I took those guys, but I stand by it. :lol:
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Re: Not at all early 2025 Draft thread

Postby 81- » Wed May 01, 2024 12:34 pm

Lumps wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 12:27 pm
81- wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 12:25 pm
Lumps wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 11:39 am Our devy draft just completed. It was the initial one where we draft the picks during the startup, so not everyone had one, etc.

Best ball, 12 team, SF, PPR, 1 TEP, devy
Start 11 - QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 4 WRT, SF

Devy 1.01: Jeremiah Smith WR OSU
Devy 1.02: Luther Burden III, Missouri
devy 1.03 teitoroa mcmillan, arizona
devy 1.04 quinshon judkins, OSU
devy 1.05 nick singleton rb
devy 1.06 arch manning
devy 1.07 emeka egugbka
devy 1.08 treyveon henderson
devy 1.09 Julian Sayin
devy 1.10 Evan Stewart WR Oregon
devy 1.11 Justice Haynes RB Alabama
devy 1.12 Ashton Jeanty RB BSU

Bolded are mine. Evan Stewart at 1.10 in a startup devy is just crazy value. Jeanty has not been mentioned here aside from the PFF thing above, but he is flying under the radar. Of course I'm biased because I took those guys, but I stand by it. :lol:
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Re: Not at all early 2025 Draft thread

Postby blemly » Wed May 01, 2024 1:20 pm

Thanks for sharing, Lumps. I’ve been dipping my toes into devy more and more and still struggle to find draft results like this so it is very helpful to lay eyes on.

A bit surprised that neither of Ollie Gordon or Shedeur Sanders made the draft. Aside from Judkins, Henderson, and Singleton (and I’d argue it is a pick ‘em for everyone but Judkins), last year’s Doak Walker winner seems like an obvious candidate. And as for Sanders, he played well last year considering the abysmal protection and possesses the dual-threat game that is so valuable for fantasy.

Are others not seeing either of those guys crack their devy drafts ?
Team 1 (Rebuild ): 12-tm SF 0.5PPR/1.0PP1D
QB: Williams, Young, Tannehill
RB: Herbert, Akers, Gibson, Wilson, Abanikanda
WR: MHJ, Nabers, Flowers, Pickens, Dotson, Downs, Chark, Boyd, Douglas
TE: Knox
Picks: 3 ‘25 1s, 4 ‘25 2s, ‘25 3


Team 2: 14-tm SF PPR/1.5TEP
QB: Burrow, Wilson, Lance
RB: JT, Mixon, Pollard, Laube, Guerendo, Hill, Patterson, Hines
WR: Hill, Cooper, DK, DJM, D. Samuel, Sutton
TE: Freiermuth, Gesicki, Hudson
Picks: ‘25 3rd, ‘25 4th


Team 3 10-tm SF PPR
QB: Mahomes/Dak/Cousins/Jones
RB: JT, Kamara, Jacobs, Zeke, Singletary, Moss
WR: AJB, Diggs, Allen, Cooper, Wilson, Kirk, Sutton, Williams, Bateman, E. Moore
TE: Goedert, Schultz, Granson, Hill
Picks: 1.07, 2.04, 2.07

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Re: Not at all early 2025 Draft thread

Postby tstafford » Wed May 01, 2024 1:23 pm

Lumps wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 11:39 am Our devy draft just completed. It was the initial one where we draft the picks during the startup, so not everyone had one, etc.

Best ball, 12 team, SF, PPR, 1 TEP, devy
Start 11 - QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 4 WRT, SF

Devy 1.01: Jeremiah Smith WR OSU
Devy 1.02: Luther Burden III, Missouri
devy 1.03 teitoroa mcmillan, arizona
devy 1.04 quinshon judkins, OSU
devy 1.05 nick singleton rb
devy 1.06 arch manning
devy 1.07 emeka egugbka
devy 1.08 treyveon henderson
devy 1.09 Julian Sayin
devy 1.10 Evan Stewart WR Oregon
devy 1.11 Justice Haynes RB Alabama
devy 1.12 Ashton Jeanty RB BSU

Bolded are mine. Evan Stewart at 1.10 in a startup devy is just crazy value. Jeanty has not been mentioned here aside from the PFF thing above, but he is flying under the radar. Of course I'm biased because I took those guys, but I stand by it. :lol:
I love what little we know about J.Smith but man is that a risky selection with the 1.01 given the pool is not depleted at all. I'm expecting to have him as an option at 1.04 in my league with a somewhat picked over pool and I'm not sure if I should take him. A lot can go wrong b/w now and 2027.

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Re: Not at all early 2025 Draft thread

Postby tstafford » Wed May 01, 2024 1:24 pm

blemly wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 1:20 pm Thanks for sharing, Lumps. I’ve been dipping my toes into devy more and more and still struggle to find draft results like this so it is very helpful to lay eyes on.

A bit surprised that neither of Ollie Gordon or Shedeur Sanders made the draft. Aside from Judkins, Henderson, and Singleton (and I’d argue it is a pick ‘em for everyone but Judkins), last year’s Doak Walker winner seems like an obvious candidate. And as for Sanders, he played well last year considering the abysmal protection and possesses the dual-threat game that is so valuable for fantasy.

Are others not seeing either of those guys crack their devy drafts ?
Mine is 1QB so Sanders likely won't get picked. Gordon will go top-5 from our semi-deleted rookie/devy pool. All the others you mention are already rostered.

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Re: Not at all early 2025 Draft thread

Postby Lumps » Wed May 01, 2024 1:32 pm

tstafford wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 1:24 pm
blemly wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 1:20 pm Thanks for sharing, Lumps. I’ve been dipping my toes into devy more and more and still struggle to find draft results like this so it is very helpful to lay eyes on.

A bit surprised that neither of Ollie Gordon or Shedeur Sanders made the draft. Aside from Judkins, Henderson, and Singleton (and I’d argue it is a pick ‘em for everyone but Judkins), last year’s Doak Walker winner seems like an obvious candidate. And as for Sanders, he played well last year considering the abysmal protection and possesses the dual-threat game that is so valuable for fantasy.

Are others not seeing either of those guys crack their devy drafts ?
Mine is 1QB so Sanders likely won't get picked. Gordon will go top-5 from our semi-deleted rookie/devy pool. All the others you mention are already rostered.
I won't say the Smith nor Sayin (OSU homer) picks were ones that I think should have been made. Not in a start up.

To blemly, Ollie put up numbers, but when I watch him run I don't think it's going to translate. He's a very high runner, not particularly fluid. It's dangerous to go purely off of stats and awards in college. See: Wuerffle, Danny. That might be too long ago....

As for Jeanty, he looks like a more powerful, less speedy, Gibbs. That translates.

As for QBs, this is a SF, true. But, it's only 12 team, and only 1 round each year. At least for me and a couple guys I know from the league, these were major factors. QB is SO risky in devy (see above my comments on Ratter, Howell, all of the 2022 freshman class, etc.). Ewers was rated as a perfect prospect by a few services and if I'm being honest, as I just said in our league chat, he's dog bleep. (Watch AD Mitchell all targets and you will see how bad.) It's so hard to project a QB. WR is arguably the easiest if you watch them.
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Re: Not at all early 2025 Draft thread

Postby MacDaddy123 » Wed May 01, 2024 1:34 pm

Don't sleep on Tet McMillan. I've seen a few mocks, including one from Dane Brugler, who have Tet as 2025 WR1 off the board.
Could be a redux of the 2024 draft class that has the alpha X WR as WR1, and the speed demon, shifty WR as WR2.

Tet at 6'5" is a monster!!!

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Re: Not at all early 2025 Draft thread

Postby blemly » Wed May 01, 2024 1:36 pm

tstafford wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 1:24 pm
blemly wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 1:20 pm Thanks for sharing, Lumps. I’ve been dipping my toes into devy more and more and still struggle to find draft results like this so it is very helpful to lay eyes on.

A bit surprised that neither of Ollie Gordon or Shedeur Sanders made the draft. Aside from Judkins, Henderson, and Singleton (and I’d argue it is a pick ‘em for everyone but Judkins), last year’s Doak Walker winner seems like an obvious candidate. And as for Sanders, he played well last year considering the abysmal protection and possesses the dual-threat game that is so valuable for fantasy.

Are others not seeing either of those guys crack their devy drafts ?
Mine is 1QB so Sanders likely won't get picked. Gordon will go top-5 from our semi-deleted rookie/devy pool. All the others you mention are already rostered.
Ah, of course. If you do play in a SF devy league (and depending how early you can draft Devy prospects in that league), I think Sanders has a good case to be the QB4-6 among Ewers, Manning, Klubnik, Allar, and Iamaleava.
Team 1 (Rebuild ): 12-tm SF 0.5PPR/1.0PP1D
QB: Williams, Young, Tannehill
RB: Herbert, Akers, Gibson, Wilson, Abanikanda
WR: MHJ, Nabers, Flowers, Pickens, Dotson, Downs, Chark, Boyd, Douglas
TE: Knox
Picks: 3 ‘25 1s, 4 ‘25 2s, ‘25 3


Team 2: 14-tm SF PPR/1.5TEP
QB: Burrow, Wilson, Lance
RB: JT, Mixon, Pollard, Laube, Guerendo, Hill, Patterson, Hines
WR: Hill, Cooper, DK, DJM, D. Samuel, Sutton
TE: Freiermuth, Gesicki, Hudson
Picks: ‘25 3rd, ‘25 4th


Team 3 10-tm SF PPR
QB: Mahomes/Dak/Cousins/Jones
RB: JT, Kamara, Jacobs, Zeke, Singletary, Moss
WR: AJB, Diggs, Allen, Cooper, Wilson, Kirk, Sutton, Williams, Bateman, E. Moore
TE: Goedert, Schultz, Granson, Hill
Picks: 1.07, 2.04, 2.07

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Re: Not at all early 2025 Draft thread

Postby Lumps » Wed May 01, 2024 1:39 pm

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Jeanty is the only Group of Five player on this list, but it’s well-deserved considering how elite he’s been through his first two seasons of college football. In 2022, he led all FBS true freshmen with an 89.5 PFF grade. Jeanty proceeded to lead all FBS running backs in 2023 with a 94.9 PFF grade and was the most valuable back according to PFF’s wins above average metric. He was the only running back in America with 90-plus grades as a runner and receiver.

Jeanty was third among FBS running backs with 82 forced missed tackles while leading them all with 578 receiving yards. His versatility will be coveted in the NFL, where receiving ability for running backs is prioritized more than ever.
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Re: Not at all early 2025 Draft thread

Postby blemly » Wed May 01, 2024 1:42 pm

Lumps wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 1:32 pm
tstafford wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 1:24 pm
blemly wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 1:20 pm Thanks for sharing, Lumps. I’ve been dipping my toes into devy more and more and still struggle to find draft results like this so it is very helpful to lay eyes on.

A bit surprised that neither of Ollie Gordon or Shedeur Sanders made the draft. Aside from Judkins, Henderson, and Singleton (and I’d argue it is a pick ‘em for everyone but Judkins), last year’s Doak Walker winner seems like an obvious candidate. And as for Sanders, he played well last year considering the abysmal protection and possesses the dual-threat game that is so valuable for fantasy.

Are others not seeing either of those guys crack their devy drafts ?
Mine is 1QB so Sanders likely won't get picked. Gordon will go top-5 from our semi-deleted rookie/devy pool. All the others you mention are already rostered.
I won't say the Smith nor Sayin (OSU homer) picks were ones that I think should have been made. Not in a start up.

To blemly, Ollie put up numbers, but when I watch him run I don't think it's going to translate. He's a very high runner, not particularly fluid. It's dangerous to go purely off of stats and awards in college. See: Wuerffle, Danny. That might be too long ago....

As for Jeanty, he looks like a more powerful, less speedy, Gibbs. That translates.

As for QBs, this is a SF, true. But, it's only 12 team, and only 1 round each year. At least for me and a couple guys I know from the league, these were major factors. QB is SO risky in devy (see above my comments on Ratter, Howell, all of the 2022 freshman class, etc.). Ewers was rated as a perfect prospect by a few services and if I'm being honest, as I just said in our league chat, he's dog bleep. (Watch AD Mitchell all targets and you will see how bad.) It's so hard to project a QB. WR is arguably the easiest if you watch them.
Ollie Gordon reminds me of Joe Mixon. He’s a bit lighter but Mixon always had that higher than normal stance. Ollie is also not a burner and it would surprise me if he ran in the low 4.4s. I’d say the only think we may disagree on with Gordon is his fluidity. He’s no Swift, but I think is above average in the shifty department.
Team 1 (Rebuild ): 12-tm SF 0.5PPR/1.0PP1D
QB: Williams, Young, Tannehill
RB: Herbert, Akers, Gibson, Wilson, Abanikanda
WR: MHJ, Nabers, Flowers, Pickens, Dotson, Downs, Chark, Boyd, Douglas
TE: Knox
Picks: 3 ‘25 1s, 4 ‘25 2s, ‘25 3


Team 2: 14-tm SF PPR/1.5TEP
QB: Burrow, Wilson, Lance
RB: JT, Mixon, Pollard, Laube, Guerendo, Hill, Patterson, Hines
WR: Hill, Cooper, DK, DJM, D. Samuel, Sutton
TE: Freiermuth, Gesicki, Hudson
Picks: ‘25 3rd, ‘25 4th


Team 3 10-tm SF PPR
QB: Mahomes/Dak/Cousins/Jones
RB: JT, Kamara, Jacobs, Zeke, Singletary, Moss
WR: AJB, Diggs, Allen, Cooper, Wilson, Kirk, Sutton, Williams, Bateman, E. Moore
TE: Goedert, Schultz, Granson, Hill
Picks: 1.07, 2.04, 2.07

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Re: Not at all early 2025 Draft thread

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Wed May 01, 2024 1:50 pm

So I picked Singleton at 5, and I was looking at Ollie Gordon, and he was intriguing, but his speed was what concerned me a bit. I don’t think there’s any way he runs in the 4.4s. You’re hoping he runs a 4.5x, and 4.5s can be perfectly fine too, but then the margin for error is shrinking.

His game does remind me of Mixon, but Mixon was a terrific athlete with terrific speed.

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Re: Not at all early 2025 Draft thread

Postby tstafford » Wed May 01, 2024 2:20 pm

Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 1:50 pm So I picked Singleton at 5, and I was looking at Ollie Gordon, and he was intriguing, but his speed was what concerned me a bit. I don’t think there’s any way he runs in the 4.4s. You’re hoping he runs a 4.5x, and 4.5s can be perfectly fine too, but then the margin for error is shrinking.

His game does remind me of Mixon, but Mixon was a terrific athlete with terrific speed.
I think you made the right call with Singleton.

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Re: Not at all early 2025 Draft thread

Postby Lumps » Wed May 01, 2024 2:34 pm

tstafford wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 2:20 pm
Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 1:50 pm So I picked Singleton at 5, and I was looking at Ollie Gordon, and he was intriguing, but his speed was what concerned me a bit. I don’t think there’s any way he runs in the 4.4s. You’re hoping he runs a 4.5x, and 4.5s can be perfectly fine too, but then the margin for error is shrinking.

His game does remind me of Mixon, but Mixon was a terrific athlete with terrific speed.
I think you made the right call with Singleton.
Agreed. Singleton has the chance to be special. There are still some flaws, but the ceiling is far higher.
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Re: Not at all early 2025 Draft thread

Postby Cameron Giles » Wed May 01, 2024 4:19 pm

Lumps wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 2:34 pm
tstafford wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 2:20 pm
Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 1:50 pm So I picked Singleton at 5, and I was looking at Ollie Gordon, and he was intriguing, but his speed was what concerned me a bit. I don’t think there’s any way he runs in the 4.4s. You’re hoping he runs a 4.5x, and 4.5s can be perfectly fine too, but then the margin for error is shrinking.

His game does remind me of Mixon, but Mixon was a terrific athlete with terrific speed.
I think you made the right call with Singleton.
Agreed. Singleton has the chance to be special. There are still some flaws, but the ceiling is far higher.
Really just depends if he returns to what he looked like as a freshman.

Passing on Gordon is tough. Definitely get the concerns though with breakaway speed. But still, he's looked the most special of any back in this class. I think I would've just taken him based on that and hoped he's in the 4.5 range and isn't a plodder in disguise like Najee.


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