Sold Rozeboom for a 3rd last night, which I think was a nice return.
Did make me wonder if I should send offers and see what I can get for Jewell and Landman.
What's the feeling on Jewell and Landman? I don't think I sold low on Rozeboom, even in a high scoring IDP league that starts 11 defenders (up to 5 LBs)
One route I'm considering is offering Landman for Mosely to a team having a fire sale and looking for "1st and 2nd year players or picks."
I sold Mosely to owner for Mike Evans at start of season and now wonder if I can/should offer Landman straight up in a swap.
Thoughts appreciated.
Rozeboom, Jewell, Landman
Rozeboom, Jewell, Landman
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Re: Rozeboom, Jewell, Landman
that's because you actually robbed the guy: a third for a mediocre LB is an absolute steal in any league.
jewell is good but i'd send him packing for a 3rd, probably even a 4th (depends on waivers, but likely yeah).
a special teamer for mosley is also a great bit of business, age is so overvalued in IDP.
Re: Rozeboom, Jewell, Landman
He took the offer so fast (argues with me about good offers) I thought "damn, did I just F this up?" Good to hear I was right, threw out offers just for the hell of it and almost dropped him right after I sent offers.killer_of_giants wrote: ↑Thu Oct 19, 2023 4:17 amthat's because you actually robbed the guy: a third for a mediocre LB is an absolute steal in any league.
jewell is good but i'd send him packing for a 3rd, probably even a 4th (depends on waivers, but likely yeah).
a special teamer for mosley is also a great bit of business, age is so overvalued in IDP.
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Herbert Fields Garoppolo Ridder
JT Barkley Etienne Ingram Charb CEH
Evans Aiyuk Dionte Jeudy London JWill GWils EMoore JMyers Mims Moorex2
Andrews Kinkaid Pits Freiermuth
NBosa Quinnen DJJones Clark F-Myers Taylor Graham
Darius Okereke Kendricks DCampbell DJones Baker Kiser Brooks
Adams Simmons Vaccaro Joseph
12 TM .5ppr 45 RST
Herbert Stroud Daniels
JT Achane Kamara Ford Pacheco Jaleel
AJB DK Godwin Aiyuk Keenan Kirk ZJones RMoore
Hock Kittle
LWilliams Payne Reed Greenard
Bernard Kendricks Warner Baker Williams Tranquil
Budda McKinney Clark Wilson
1-2QB 2-4RB 3-5WR 1-3TE 11OFF/DEF
Herbert Stafford Brock Dobbs
Taylor Jacobs Mattison Kyren Jaleel Ford Bigsby
AJB Diggs Evans Kirk McLaurin Dionte Boyd Renfrow JuJu
Kelce Pitts Deguara
Hutchinson Rousseau Greenard Travon Demarcus
QWilliams EJones TBernard Dean ShaqT Kyzir
Amos Bates Peppers Murray Fitz Clark
Herbert Fields Garoppolo Ridder
JT Barkley Etienne Ingram Charb CEH
Evans Aiyuk Dionte Jeudy London JWill GWils EMoore JMyers Mims Moorex2
Andrews Kinkaid Pits Freiermuth
NBosa Quinnen DJJones Clark F-Myers Taylor Graham
Darius Okereke Kendricks DCampbell DJones Baker Kiser Brooks
Adams Simmons Vaccaro Joseph
12 TM .5ppr 45 RST
Herbert Stroud Daniels
JT Achane Kamara Ford Pacheco Jaleel
AJB DK Godwin Aiyuk Keenan Kirk ZJones RMoore
Hock Kittle
LWilliams Payne Reed Greenard
Bernard Kendricks Warner Baker Williams Tranquil
Budda McKinney Clark Wilson
1-2QB 2-4RB 3-5WR 1-3TE 11OFF/DEF
Herbert Stafford Brock Dobbs
Taylor Jacobs Mattison Kyren Jaleel Ford Bigsby
AJB Diggs Evans Kirk McLaurin Dionte Boyd Renfrow JuJu
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Re: Rozeboom, Jewell, Landman
Jewell - for dynasty purposes, do we think that rookie Sanders is going to take over for Singleton or Jewell next year?
I see that Singleton has two years left on his contract, with a potential out after 2024, but Jewell will be an UFA after this year. The Donkeys are going to need to see what Sanders has to offer soon so they can decide if they let Jewell walk. (My two cents...) If so, which LB's snap counts get cut when they decide to put Sanders in?
I see that Singleton has two years left on his contract, with a potential out after 2024, but Jewell will be an UFA after this year. The Donkeys are going to need to see what Sanders has to offer soon so they can decide if they let Jewell walk. (My two cents...) If so, which LB's snap counts get cut when they decide to put Sanders in?
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RB: Barkley, KW3, JavWilliams, Pollard, Dillon, Charb, Abanikanda, Rodriguez
WR: Lamb, AJBrown, Dotson, JSN, M Evans, Watson, JPalmer
TE: Andrews, Goedert, Kmet
K: Butker, Hopkins, Aubrey
DE: Gary, J Phillips, Rousseau, Wilkins
LB: Wagner, DevWhite, Roquan, E Jones, Nakobe, DevLloyd, CHarris, Dennis
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Re: Rozeboom, Jewell, Landman
This cannot be emphasized enough - IDP should always be played like it’s redraft, for 95% of the players. With elite DLs: Hutch, N Bosa, Quinnen, Crosby, big Jeff, etc yes, age is a big factor in making certain players incredibly valuable. But with linebackers and especially with DBs, the guy who is 24 is very rarely worth much more to me than a productive guy who’s 32killer_of_giants wrote: ↑Thu Oct 19, 2023 4:17 amthat's because you actually robbed the guy: a third for a mediocre LB is an absolute steal in any league.
jewell is good but i'd send him packing for a 3rd, probably even a 4th (depends on waivers, but likely yeah).
a special teamer for mosley is also a great bit of business, age is so overvalued in IDP.
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, J Daniels, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/G WILSON/D ADAMS/DK, Pittman, Flowers, Evans, Pearsoll
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/COUSINS, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
LAPORTA/KELCE/KITTLE
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TEAM C - 32T (2 copy), 1QB, TEP
TUA, J Daniels
KAMARA, J Brooks, Monty, Mattison
JJ/DK/GODWIN/K ALLEN, Kirk, J Meyers, Polk, Wandale
KITTLE, Goedert, Higbee
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE, Pollard
CHASE/G WILSON/AIYUK/DJM, Nabers, Pittman, Diggs, Polk
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/BREECE, Pollard
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert
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TEAM F - 12T, SF & TEP
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
LAPORTA
HERBERT, J Daniels, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/G WILSON/D ADAMS/DK, Pittman, Flowers, Evans, Pearsoll
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/COUSINS, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
LAPORTA/KELCE/KITTLE
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TEAM C - 32T (2 copy), 1QB, TEP
TUA, J Daniels
KAMARA, J Brooks, Monty, Mattison
JJ/DK/GODWIN/K ALLEN, Kirk, J Meyers, Polk, Wandale
KITTLE, Goedert, Higbee
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE, Pollard
CHASE/G WILSON/AIYUK/DJM, Nabers, Pittman, Diggs, Polk
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/BREECE, Pollard
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert
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TEAM F - 12T, SF & TEP
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
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Re: Rozeboom, Jewell, Landman
100% agree...but don't preach this too hard. I get good trades every year in every league from owners that value youth more than production.lukkynumber13 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 12:58 pmThis cannot be emphasized enough - IDP should always be played like it’s redraft, for 95% of the players. With elite DLs: Hutch, N Bosa, Quinnen, Crosby, big Jeff, etc yes, age is a big factor in making certain players incredibly valuable. But with linebackers and especially with DBs, the guy who is 24 is very rarely worth much more to me than a productive guy who’s 32killer_of_giants wrote: ↑Thu Oct 19, 2023 4:17 amthat's because you actually robbed the guy: a third for a mediocre LB is an absolute steal in any league.
jewell is good but i'd send him packing for a 3rd, probably even a 4th (depends on waivers, but likely yeah).
a special teamer for mosley is also a great bit of business, age is so overvalued in IDP.
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NBosa Quinnen DJJones Clark F-Myers Taylor Graham
Darius Okereke Kendricks DCampbell DJones Baker Kiser Brooks
Adams Simmons Vaccaro Joseph
12 TM .5ppr 45 RST
Herbert Stroud Daniels
JT Achane Kamara Ford Pacheco Jaleel
AJB DK Godwin Aiyuk Keenan Kirk ZJones RMoore
Hock Kittle
LWilliams Payne Reed Greenard
Bernard Kendricks Warner Baker Williams Tranquil
Budda McKinney Clark Wilson
1-2QB 2-4RB 3-5WR 1-3TE 11OFF/DEF
Herbert Stafford Brock Dobbs
Taylor Jacobs Mattison Kyren Jaleel Ford Bigsby
AJB Diggs Evans Kirk McLaurin Dionte Boyd Renfrow JuJu
Kelce Pitts Deguara
Hutchinson Rousseau Greenard Travon Demarcus
QWilliams EJones TBernard Dean ShaqT Kyzir
Amos Bates Peppers Murray Fitz Clark
Herbert Fields Garoppolo Ridder
JT Barkley Etienne Ingram Charb CEH
Evans Aiyuk Dionte Jeudy London JWill GWils EMoore JMyers Mims Moorex2
Andrews Kinkaid Pits Freiermuth
NBosa Quinnen DJJones Clark F-Myers Taylor Graham
Darius Okereke Kendricks DCampbell DJones Baker Kiser Brooks
Adams Simmons Vaccaro Joseph
12 TM .5ppr 45 RST
Herbert Stroud Daniels
JT Achane Kamara Ford Pacheco Jaleel
AJB DK Godwin Aiyuk Keenan Kirk ZJones RMoore
Hock Kittle
LWilliams Payne Reed Greenard
Bernard Kendricks Warner Baker Williams Tranquil
Budda McKinney Clark Wilson
1-2QB 2-4RB 3-5WR 1-3TE 11OFF/DEF
Herbert Stafford Brock Dobbs
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Re: Rozeboom, Jewell, Landman
In relation to the previous comments, let's say you're in a rebuild. Would you ever trade these older productive guys for younger prospects? Or would you strictly sell for picks ?
I get it's probably not that black and white but just in general. Thanks.
I get it's probably not that black and white but just in general. Thanks.
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Re: Rozeboom, Jewell, Landman
I’d be open to it, but ifI’d much prefer the picks.
For instance, if I’m selling Bobby Wagner I’d be looking to get Jack Campbell not Daiyon Henley.
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, J Daniels, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/G WILSON/D ADAMS/DK, Pittman, Flowers, Evans, Pearsoll
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/COUSINS, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
LAPORTA/KELCE/KITTLE
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TEAM C - 32T (2 copy), 1QB, TEP
TUA, J Daniels
KAMARA, J Brooks, Monty, Mattison
JJ/DK/GODWIN/K ALLEN, Kirk, J Meyers, Polk, Wandale
KITTLE, Goedert, Higbee
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE, Pollard
CHASE/G WILSON/AIYUK/DJM, Nabers, Pittman, Diggs, Polk
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/BREECE, Pollard
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert
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TEAM F - 12T, SF & TEP
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
LAPORTA
HERBERT, J Daniels, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/G WILSON/D ADAMS/DK, Pittman, Flowers, Evans, Pearsoll
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/COUSINS, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
LAPORTA/KELCE/KITTLE
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TEAM C - 32T (2 copy), 1QB, TEP
TUA, J Daniels
KAMARA, J Brooks, Monty, Mattison
JJ/DK/GODWIN/K ALLEN, Kirk, J Meyers, Polk, Wandale
KITTLE, Goedert, Higbee
/
TEAM D - 14T, 1QB
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE, Pollard
CHASE/G WILSON/AIYUK/DJM, Nabers, Pittman, Diggs, Polk
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/BREECE, Pollard
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert
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TEAM F - 12T, SF & TEP
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
LAPORTA
Re: Rozeboom, Jewell, Landman
Great trade. You snap that every time.
Jewell value is very depressed. If you can’t get a 3, I’d honestly just hold. He will have use next year. His per game production has historically been pretty good. Don’t be too anxious to just ‘get out’ IMO.
I sold Landman for Milano in a league. Landman might be a guy, but I felt Milano is safer for 2024, at least for value growth. Not sure how Landman’s outlook is viewed, aside from being a young guy who got an injury opportunity.
Jewell value is very depressed. If you can’t get a 3, I’d honestly just hold. He will have use next year. His per game production has historically been pretty good. Don’t be too anxious to just ‘get out’ IMO.
I sold Landman for Milano in a league. Landman might be a guy, but I felt Milano is safer for 2024, at least for value growth. Not sure how Landman’s outlook is viewed, aside from being a young guy who got an injury opportunity.
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Re: Rozeboom, Jewell, Landman
i'd put my fiver on sanders being groomed to replace jewell. if he does well it'll be his role going forward. singleton is a thumper, but plays his role well enough. if jewell stays healthy he'll find a starting gig somewhere and get a high snap %, he is a good LB.Sinatra's Liver wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 11:42 am Jewell - for dynasty purposes, do we think that rookie Sanders is going to take over for Singleton or Jewell next year?
I see that Singleton has two years left on his contract, with a potential out after 2024, but Jewell will be an UFA after this year. The Donkeys are going to need to see what Sanders has to offer soon so they can decide if they let Jewell walk. (My two cents...) If so, which LB's snap counts get cut when they decide to put Sanders in?
yeah picks. any pick for an old LB, really.
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