I’m still figuring out IDP valuations compared to picks and offensive players. Would a mid/late 1st and 3rd be enough or too much to move Roquan. Thinking about rebuilding, but not sure what Roquans value is.
I know this should go in IDP Forum, but there is not much traffic there.
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Roquan Smith LB Value in picks/offense
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Roquan Smith LB Value in picks/offense
Last edited by CooperCrush on Wed Oct 04, 2023 7:37 am, edited 1 time in total.
Team 1: 1 PPR- 1 qb, 2 wr, 2 rb, 1 te, 1 flex, 1 d, 1k
QB: Lawrence, Maye, Geno
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, J Cook, J Brooks, Kamara, Dobbins, Mixon, Ford
WR: AJB, MHJ, Odunze, DK, Godwin, Higgins, Pittman, London, J Williams, Sutton, Mooney,
TE: Kittle, Goedert,
2024 picks: 1.1 (MHJ) and 1.9 (Brooks)
Team 2: 12 team 1 PPR-1 qb, 2rb, 3wr, 1te, 1 flex
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Team 2
QB:Allen, Fields, Carr
RB: CMC, Swift, JT, ETN, LF, Hines, Allgeier, Benjamin
WR: Godwin, Diggs, Boyd, M Brown, Claypool, ARSB, osbourne, C Davis, Wakins,
TE: Waller, Engram, L Thomas
Team 3 48 teams:half PPR- 1qb (6pts TD), 2 wr, 2 rb, 1 te, 2flex, 1d, 1pk
QB: Wilson, Josh Allen
RB: Mixon, Chubb, Jacobs, Montgomery, Henderson, Pollard, Bernard, R Freeman, L Miller
WR: Godwin, AJ Brown, ARob, Ridley, Chark, C Davis, JJAW, Ross
TE: Hooper, Herndon, Knox, Oliver, Jonnu
Def: Bills, Saints
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QB: Lawrence, Maye, Geno
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, J Cook, J Brooks, Kamara, Dobbins, Mixon, Ford
WR: AJB, MHJ, Odunze, DK, Godwin, Higgins, Pittman, London, J Williams, Sutton, Mooney,
TE: Kittle, Goedert,
2024 picks: 1.1 (MHJ) and 1.9 (Brooks)
Team 2: 12 team 1 PPR-1 qb, 2rb, 3wr, 1te, 1 flex
25 team rosters
Team 2
QB:Allen, Fields, Carr
RB: CMC, Swift, JT, ETN, LF, Hines, Allgeier, Benjamin
WR: Godwin, Diggs, Boyd, M Brown, Claypool, ARSB, osbourne, C Davis, Wakins,
TE: Waller, Engram, L Thomas
Team 3 48 teams:half PPR- 1qb (6pts TD), 2 wr, 2 rb, 1 te, 2flex, 1d, 1pk
QB: Wilson, Josh Allen
RB: Mixon, Chubb, Jacobs, Montgomery, Henderson, Pollard, Bernard, R Freeman, L Miller
WR: Godwin, AJ Brown, ARob, Ridley, Chark, C Davis, JJAW, Ross
TE: Hooper, Herndon, Knox, Oliver, Jonnu
Def: Bills, Saints
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Re: Roquan Value in picks/offense
Johnson has a lot of potential and is a favorable depth chart but I do think a backend mid/late 1st is a fair offer. The 3rd is not huge value but is a decent add in IDP to get the deal over the top. If its not enough, I would move on.
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Re: Roquan Value in picks/offense
Sorry Gator, should have included last name: Looking to move Roquan SmithGator Sens wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 7:34 am Johnson has a lot of potential and is a favorable depth chart but I do think a backend mid/late 1st is a fair offer. The 3rd is not huge value but is a decent add in IDP to get the deal over the top. If its not enough, I would move on.
Team 1: 1 PPR- 1 qb, 2 wr, 2 rb, 1 te, 1 flex, 1 d, 1k
QB: Lawrence, Maye, Geno
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, J Cook, J Brooks, Kamara, Dobbins, Mixon, Ford
WR: AJB, MHJ, Odunze, DK, Godwin, Higgins, Pittman, London, J Williams, Sutton, Mooney,
TE: Kittle, Goedert,
2024 picks: 1.1 (MHJ) and 1.9 (Brooks)
Team 2: 12 team 1 PPR-1 qb, 2rb, 3wr, 1te, 1 flex
25 team rosters
Team 2
QB:Allen, Fields, Carr
RB: CMC, Swift, JT, ETN, LF, Hines, Allgeier, Benjamin
WR: Godwin, Diggs, Boyd, M Brown, Claypool, ARSB, osbourne, C Davis, Wakins,
TE: Waller, Engram, L Thomas
Team 3 48 teams:half PPR- 1qb (6pts TD), 2 wr, 2 rb, 1 te, 2flex, 1d, 1pk
QB: Wilson, Josh Allen
RB: Mixon, Chubb, Jacobs, Montgomery, Henderson, Pollard, Bernard, R Freeman, L Miller
WR: Godwin, AJ Brown, ARob, Ridley, Chark, C Davis, JJAW, Ross
TE: Hooper, Herndon, Knox, Oliver, Jonnu
Def: Bills, Saints
PK: Lambo
QB: Lawrence, Maye, Geno
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, J Cook, J Brooks, Kamara, Dobbins, Mixon, Ford
WR: AJB, MHJ, Odunze, DK, Godwin, Higgins, Pittman, London, J Williams, Sutton, Mooney,
TE: Kittle, Goedert,
2024 picks: 1.1 (MHJ) and 1.9 (Brooks)
Team 2: 12 team 1 PPR-1 qb, 2rb, 3wr, 1te, 1 flex
25 team rosters
Team 2
QB:Allen, Fields, Carr
RB: CMC, Swift, JT, ETN, LF, Hines, Allgeier, Benjamin
WR: Godwin, Diggs, Boyd, M Brown, Claypool, ARSB, osbourne, C Davis, Wakins,
TE: Waller, Engram, L Thomas
Team 3 48 teams:half PPR- 1qb (6pts TD), 2 wr, 2 rb, 1 te, 2flex, 1d, 1pk
QB: Wilson, Josh Allen
RB: Mixon, Chubb, Jacobs, Montgomery, Henderson, Pollard, Bernard, R Freeman, L Miller
WR: Godwin, AJ Brown, ARob, Ridley, Chark, C Davis, JJAW, Ross
TE: Hooper, Herndon, Knox, Oliver, Jonnu
Def: Bills, Saints
PK: Lambo
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Re: Roquan Value in picks/offense
Your post was very clear, but my mind was elsewhere, sorry ha ha! I am not very well versed in IDP. How does Smith score in reference to other assets in the late 1st range? Do big IDP scorers stack up well with top 15-20 WRs/RBs?CooperCrush wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 7:38 amSorry Gator, should have included last name: Looking to move Roquan SmithGator Sens wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 7:34 am Johnson has a lot of potential and is a favorable depth chart but I do think a backend mid/late 1st is a fair offer. The 3rd is not huge value but is a decent add in IDP to get the deal over the top. If its not enough, I would move on.
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Re: Roquan Smith LB Value in picks/offense
He is averaging about 18pts a game. That puts him in the Swift, ARSB, Bijan, Kelce area for scoring this year.
Team 1: 1 PPR- 1 qb, 2 wr, 2 rb, 1 te, 1 flex, 1 d, 1k
QB: Lawrence, Maye, Geno
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, J Cook, J Brooks, Kamara, Dobbins, Mixon, Ford
WR: AJB, MHJ, Odunze, DK, Godwin, Higgins, Pittman, London, J Williams, Sutton, Mooney,
TE: Kittle, Goedert,
2024 picks: 1.1 (MHJ) and 1.9 (Brooks)
Team 2: 12 team 1 PPR-1 qb, 2rb, 3wr, 1te, 1 flex
25 team rosters
Team 2
QB:Allen, Fields, Carr
RB: CMC, Swift, JT, ETN, LF, Hines, Allgeier, Benjamin
WR: Godwin, Diggs, Boyd, M Brown, Claypool, ARSB, osbourne, C Davis, Wakins,
TE: Waller, Engram, L Thomas
Team 3 48 teams:half PPR- 1qb (6pts TD), 2 wr, 2 rb, 1 te, 2flex, 1d, 1pk
QB: Wilson, Josh Allen
RB: Mixon, Chubb, Jacobs, Montgomery, Henderson, Pollard, Bernard, R Freeman, L Miller
WR: Godwin, AJ Brown, ARob, Ridley, Chark, C Davis, JJAW, Ross
TE: Hooper, Herndon, Knox, Oliver, Jonnu
Def: Bills, Saints
PK: Lambo
QB: Lawrence, Maye, Geno
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, J Cook, J Brooks, Kamara, Dobbins, Mixon, Ford
WR: AJB, MHJ, Odunze, DK, Godwin, Higgins, Pittman, London, J Williams, Sutton, Mooney,
TE: Kittle, Goedert,
2024 picks: 1.1 (MHJ) and 1.9 (Brooks)
Team 2: 12 team 1 PPR-1 qb, 2rb, 3wr, 1te, 1 flex
25 team rosters
Team 2
QB:Allen, Fields, Carr
RB: CMC, Swift, JT, ETN, LF, Hines, Allgeier, Benjamin
WR: Godwin, Diggs, Boyd, M Brown, Claypool, ARSB, osbourne, C Davis, Wakins,
TE: Waller, Engram, L Thomas
Team 3 48 teams:half PPR- 1qb (6pts TD), 2 wr, 2 rb, 1 te, 2flex, 1d, 1pk
QB: Wilson, Josh Allen
RB: Mixon, Chubb, Jacobs, Montgomery, Henderson, Pollard, Bernard, R Freeman, L Miller
WR: Godwin, AJ Brown, ARob, Ridley, Chark, C Davis, JJAW, Ross
TE: Hooper, Herndon, Knox, Oliver, Jonnu
Def: Bills, Saints
PK: Lambo
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Re: Roquan Smith LB Value in picks/offense
If this is where your IDP scoring has him, I would say he is a late 1st, early 2nd. Not saying those offensive players aren’t worth more that he’s scoring close to, but there are a lot of LB producers to go around, so usually depresses value a bit.CooperCrush wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 7:49 am He is averaging about 18pts a game. That puts him in the Swift, ARSB, Bijan, Kelce area for scoring this year.
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Re: Roquan Smith LB Value in picks/offense
Agreed here too. IDP players seem easier to find on the wire and pop up. I would hold here.krtbuckeye wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 9:12 pmIf this is where your IDP scoring has him, I would say he is a late 1st, early 2nd. Not saying those offensive players aren’t worth more that he’s scoring close to, but there are a lot of LB producers to go around, so usually depresses value a bit.CooperCrush wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 7:49 am He is averaging about 18pts a game. That puts him in the Swift, ARSB, Bijan, Kelce area for scoring this year.
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Re: Roquan Smith LB Value in picks/offense
IDP value usually depends on how many IDP starters compared to offense, and also IDP scoring.CooperCrush wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 7:30 am I’m still figuring out IDP valuations compared to picks and offensive players. Would a mid/late 1st and 3rd be enough or too much to move Roquan. Thinking about rebuilding, but not sure what Roquans value is.
I know this should go in IDP Forum, but there is not much traffic there.
Total Starters: 20
Number of Starting QBs: 1
Number of Starting RBs: 2-3
Number of Starting WRs: 2-4
Number of Starting TEs: 1-2
Number of Starting PKs: 1
Number of Starting DTs: 1-3
Number of Starting DEs: 1-3
Number of Starting LBs: 3-4
Number of Starting CBs: 1-3
Number of Starting Ss: 1-3
In Full IDP leagues, where defensive starters match offensive starters, and using IDP123 scoring, then yes, I would say that Roquan is worth a mid 1st and a 3rd.
Most of my leagues are full IDP, start 11 offense/ 11 IDP, or 10 offense/ 10 IDP.
All of my IDP leagues use IDP123 scoring except for one which still uses the older, lower scoring IDP settings, which makes IDP values decline.
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