Lamar to Hurts
Lamar to Hurts
What would you feel you need to add to Lamar to acquire Hurts in 1QB, 4 pt/TD PPR league?
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Re: Lamar to Hurts
SF? A mid 1st would probably be what it takes to get the deal done.
1QB? Early 2nd, but probably late 1st as the 2nd doesn't move the needle much.
All preference based of course.
1QB? Early 2nd, but probably late 1st as the 2nd doesn't move the needle much.
All preference based of course.
Re: Lamar to Hurts
I would love to be the Hurts seller in this situation. That’s a total winning dynasty move. Sell Hurts for Lamar plus a first.
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Re: Lamar to Hurts
I don’t think there’s a gap here. Recency bias at its finest. That said, given market perception, maybe a 2nd+.
12 Team - PPR - 30man (2 IR) - 6pt PPTD- 1 QB - 2 RB - 2 WR - 1 Flex - 1 TE
QB: Jalen Hurts, Dak Prescott, Anthony Richardson, Aidan O'Connell
RB: McCaffrey, Jacobs, Barkley, Zamir White, Jaleel McLaughlin, Dowdle, Zach Evans, Dobbins
WR: AJB, London, Aiyuk, Diontae Johnson, Rashee Rice, Ridley, McLaurin, Dotson, Rashod Bateman
TE: Mandrews, Pitts, Likely, Otton
2024: 1.01, 1.07
2025: 3x 1st
Champ: 2020, 2021
Year 9 of my league
QB: Jalen Hurts, Dak Prescott, Anthony Richardson, Aidan O'Connell
RB: McCaffrey, Jacobs, Barkley, Zamir White, Jaleel McLaughlin, Dowdle, Zach Evans, Dobbins
WR: AJB, London, Aiyuk, Diontae Johnson, Rashee Rice, Ridley, McLaurin, Dotson, Rashod Bateman
TE: Mandrews, Pitts, Likely, Otton
2024: 1.01, 1.07
2025: 3x 1st
Champ: 2020, 2021
Year 9 of my league
Re: Lamar to Hurts
Yeah, I'm not paying to go from Lamar to Hurts.
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Re: Lamar to Hurts
I could see the Hurts manager thinking a solid add would be needed, but in a 1 QB format, anything more than a 2nd would be an overpay. Jackson will be fine. As a Jackson manager in a 1 QB format, I would be more than fine holding Jackson based on what would likely need to be added.
Re: Lamar to Hurts
Quick answer -- I probably wouldn't do this trade as a Hurts owner and a contender (see why below), but it would take a 1st for me as Hurts owner. I think most people would think thats an overpay fwiw.
Maybe this is considered a hot take, but this is how I feel about any QB who is predominantly effective because of their legs...
Once you start stringing together injuries, your value is going down hill. The QB no longer wants to run because they are getting hurt (doesn't matter how they got hurt), and they are more prone to injury after the injuries start. Lamar is a actually an extreme example because I don't believe he can be good AT ALL without his running threat. Basically, I think you'd be buying a depreciating asset at this point. #hottake?
Maybe this is considered a hot take, but this is how I feel about any QB who is predominantly effective because of their legs...
Once you start stringing together injuries, your value is going down hill. The QB no longer wants to run because they are getting hurt (doesn't matter how they got hurt), and they are more prone to injury after the injuries start. Lamar is a actually an extreme example because I don't believe he can be good AT ALL without his running threat. Basically, I think you'd be buying a depreciating asset at this point. #hottake?
12 team IDP Salary Cap w/ contracts 40 man roster + 20 taxi spots | 4 year max contract w/ Franchise(1)/Transition(2)/RFA Tags). Mostly mirrors real NFL.
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https://www59.myfantasyleague.com/2020/ ... =0008&O=07
Full Roster:
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Re: Lamar to Hurts
So LJax has been in the league longer and won't be good at all with his recent injuries, but Hurts is younger with no injuries, so isn't this improving his team?ckrumm24 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 14, 2023 7:28 pm Quick answer -- I probably wouldn't do this trade as a Hurts owner and a contender (see why below), but it would take a 1st for me as Hurts owner. I think most people would think thats an overpay fwiw.
Maybe this is considered a hot take, but this is how I feel about any QB who is predominantly effective because of their legs...
Once you start stringing together injuries, your value is going down hill. The QB no longer wants to run because they are getting hurt (doesn't matter how they got hurt), and they are more prone to injury after the injuries start. Lamar is a actually an extreme example because I don't believe he can be good AT ALL without his running threat. Basically, I think you'd be buying a depreciating asset at this point. #hottake?
In a 1 qb league I'd be fine with LJax here, but a lot depends on your backup. I do see him passing more this year and running less. They finally have weapons for him beside Andrews. I wouldn't add a first, and only a late 2nd here if needed, but I think that is a overpay, but if that's your guy then get it done.
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10 team, 6 pt all td, ppr, 1.5 te ppr. 30 man roster QB, SF, 2 RB, 3 WR, TE, Flex (r/w/t), K, 3 IDP
Qb- Mahomes, Prudy, Baker
RB- S Barkley, Pollard, B Hall, K Herbert, D Foreman, R Johnson, Zeke, J Robinson, Z White, J Wilson(i.r.), J McKinnon, J Mason, J Hill
WR- J Jefferson, Deebo, DJ Moore, OBJ, S Moore, J Jennings, C Austin, Trey Palmer
TE- Andrews, Higbee, Dulchich, Ferguson, D Washington
IDP(3)- P Queen,D Perryman, J Jewell, J Campbell, N Dean (i.r.)
K- E McPherson, Butker
draft picks
2024- 2, 4, 5
2025- 3, 3, 4, 5
10 team, 6 pt all td, ppr, 1.5 te ppr. 30 man roster QB, SF, 2 RB, 3 WR, TE, Flex (r/w/t), K, 3 IDP
Qb- Mahomes, Prudy, Baker
RB- S Barkley, Pollard, B Hall, K Herbert, D Foreman, R Johnson, Zeke, J Robinson, Z White, J Wilson(i.r.), J McKinnon, J Mason, J Hill
WR- J Jefferson, Deebo, DJ Moore, OBJ, S Moore, J Jennings, C Austin, Trey Palmer
TE- Andrews, Higbee, Dulchich, Ferguson, D Washington
IDP(3)- P Queen,D Perryman, J Jewell, J Campbell, N Dean (i.r.)
K- E McPherson, Butker
draft picks
2024- 2, 4, 5
2025- 3, 3, 4, 5
Re: Lamar to Hurts
I'm confused by your question -- not sure what being in the league comment was suppose to mean. For clarity, I was saying since my team actually has Hurts and I'm a contender I wouldn't trade away Hurts for Lamar regardless if given a first, but if I wasn't a contender, it would take an extra 1st (this answers his question).dblj1199 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 14, 2023 7:45 pmSo LJax has been in the league longer and won't be good at all with his recent injuries, but Hurts is younger with no injuries, so isn't this improving his team?ckrumm24 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 14, 2023 7:28 pm Quick answer -- I probably wouldn't do this trade as a Hurts owner and a contender (see why below), but it would take a 1st for me as Hurts owner. I think most people would think thats an overpay fwiw.
Maybe this is considered a hot take, but this is how I feel about any QB who is predominantly effective because of their legs...
Once you start stringing together injuries, your value is going down hill. The QB no longer wants to run because they are getting hurt (doesn't matter how they got hurt), and they are more prone to injury after the injuries start. Lamar is a actually an extreme example because I don't believe he can be good AT ALL without his running threat. Basically, I think you'd be buying a depreciating asset at this point. #hottake?
In a 1 qb league I'd be fine with LJax here, but a lot depends on your backup. I do see him passing more this year and running less. They finally have weapons for him beside Andrews. I wouldn't add a first, and only a late 2nd here if needed, but I think that is a overpay, but if that's your guy then get it done.
If I actually did this in my league, I would probably then just trade Lamar as part of a rebuild because of what I said about him.
12 team IDP Salary Cap w/ contracts 40 man roster + 20 taxi spots | 4 year max contract w/ Franchise(1)/Transition(2)/RFA Tags). Mostly mirrors real NFL.
Full Roster:
https://www59.myfantasyleague.com/2020/ ... =0008&O=07
Full Roster:
https://www59.myfantasyleague.com/2020/ ... =0008&O=07
Re: Lamar to Hurts
Kind of sounds like Hurts might be a sell high based on this thread. (Or maybe Lamar is a buy low)
Most folks are saying that Lamar side would need to add a pick but that there isn't much difference b/w the players. If that's right, then selling Hurts sounds like the move.
Most folks are saying that Lamar side would need to add a pick but that there isn't much difference b/w the players. If that's right, then selling Hurts sounds like the move.
Re: Lamar to Hurts
I would prefer Hurts straight up, but if I had Lamar, I wouldn't add much of anything to move up
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