The Official Brock Purdy Thread

[mgscott]

Leads the NFL in:

+ Completion percentage
+ Touchdown percentage
+ Yards per attempt
+ Adjusted yards per attempt
+ Yards per completion
+ Passer rating
+ QBR

And for the people who talk about his passing yards coming from YAC. 48.6% of his passing yards are YAC. Look at how that compares to past MVP winners

2020 Aaron Rodgers: 52.2%
2021 Aaron Rodgers: 52.7%
2022 Patrick Mahomes: 54.3%
2023 Brock Purdy: 48.6%

Icing on the cake, he's now beaten the other MVP favorites (Hurts and Prescott) in H2H matchups.

If this were any other QB, I feel like they'd have the award almost wrapped up. Some are trying their hardest to knock Purdy for the talent he plays with and the coach he has, but the fact remains that he is playing the QB position better anyone else on the season. And he's doing this as a 7th round pick with 17 starts in his career. We've never seen a Kyle Shanahan QB look this good in their first 17 starts.

Today, he's the MVP.

He's also second in the league to Tua in throwing to the most open receivers at 40% of his throws. The positive in that is that he is making the right reads and throwing to the open receiver. The detractor to that is that his receivers are being schemed extremely well and are wide open a lot more than for other QBs. That is the argument against him as an MVP candidate. Is it more him or more the system/talent that makes it work so well.

It can be both. They are not mutually exclusive. Lamar Jackson won a MVP while being a terrible distributor of the football. There’s a lot to be said for the right guy being in the right system.

The bolded sentence indicates that it is both, but is asking if one is more important than the other. Lamar won due to his running prowess and threat. He had minimal weapons around him and carried his team. I dont think you can say that about Purdy.

[Valhalla]

He's also second in the league to Tua in throwing to the most open receivers at 40% of his throws. The positive in that is that he is making the right reads and throwing to the open receiver. The detractor to that is that his receivers are being schemed extremely well and are wide open a lot more than for other QBs. That is the argument against him as an MVP candidate. Is it more him or more the system/talent that makes it work so well.

It can be both. They are not mutually exclusive. Lamar Jackson won a MVP while being a terrible distributor of the football. There’s a lot to be said for the right guy being in the right system.

The bolded sentence indicates that it is both, but is asking if one is more important than the other. Lamar won due to his running prowess and threat. He had minimal weapons around him and carried his team. I dont think you can say that about Purdy.

Jackson was an outlier. Most MVPs have a WHOLE lot of talent surrounding them.
Also...not even sure it's fair to say he's an outlier...because I don't know enough about his offense that year. Did he have elite OL play? For a QB who won the MVP largely because of what he did on the ground, maybe for him it was more about being supported by elite blocking than by elite WRs making plays. My point is simply, don't detract from Purdy because there are other great players on the team attributing to success.

[JoeJoe88]

He's also second in the league to Tua in throwing to the most open receivers at 40% of his throws. The positive in that is that he is making the right reads and throwing to the open receiver. The detractor to that is that his receivers are being schemed extremely well and are wide open a lot more than for other QBs. That is the argument against him as an MVP candidate. Is it more him or more the system/talent that makes it work so well.

It can be both. They are not mutually exclusive. Lamar Jackson won a MVP while being a terrible distributor of the football. There’s a lot to be said for the right guy being in the right system.

The bolded sentence indicates that it is both, but is asking if one is more important than the other. Lamar won due to his running prowess and threat. He had minimal weapons around him and carried his team. I dont think you can say that about Purdy.

If Purdy were a 1st round pick instead of Mr. Irrelevant people wouldn’t be going out of their way to diminish his accomplishments. Bottom line.

I’m not sure what more the kid has to do to prove that he’s not a fluke.

[Bronco Billy]

Hard to believe that a guy who is 14-3 through his first full season as a starter gets little to no credit for that record by some - especially in a NFL that places such emphasis on QB play.

[Cameron Giles]

He's also second in the league to Tua in throwing to the most open receivers at 40% of his throws. The positive in that is that he is making the right reads and throwing to the open receiver. The detractor to that is that his receivers are being schemed extremely well and are wide open a lot more than for other QBs. That is the argument against him as an MVP candidate. Is it more him or more the system/talent that makes it work so well.

It can be both. They are not mutually exclusive. Lamar Jackson won a MVP while being a terrible distributor of the football. There’s a lot to be said for the right guy being in the right system.

The bolded sentence indicates that it is both, but is asking if one is more important than the other. Lamar won due to his running prowess and threat. He had minimal weapons around him and carried his team. I dont think you can say that about Purdy.

How many MVPs have had minimal talent around them? Mahomes, Brady, Manning and Rodgers played with stacked teams year after year.

Doing more with less is a fun storyline, but it's not the bar for winning MVP.

[mgscott]

It can be both. They are not mutually exclusive. Lamar Jackson won a MVP while being a terrible distributor of the football. There’s a lot to be said for the right guy being in the right system.

The bolded sentence indicates that it is both, but is asking if one is more important than the other. Lamar won due to his running prowess and threat. He had minimal weapons around him and carried his team. I dont think you can say that about Purdy.

Jackson was an outlier. Most MVPs have a WHOLE lot of talent surrounding them.
Also...not even sure it's fair to say he's an outlier...because I don't know enough about his offense that year. Did he have elite OL play? For a QB who won the MVP largely because of what he did on the ground, maybe for him it was more about being supported by elite blocking than by elite WRs making plays. My point is simply, don't detract from Purdy because there are other great players on the team attributing to success.

I guess I didn't know you can't consider weapons, o-line and system when considering MVP status. Should it just go to the QB of the best offense each year, whether they are more of a game manager or not? What would the Ravens have been in 2019 without Lamar? Where would the Niners be this year without Purdy? No way to know for sure, but I would bet SF is still a division winner and high seed, while the Ravens likely not even in the playoffs.

[Bronco Billy]

Maybe we need to revisit all the past MVPs and take away all the ones awarded to QBs with plenty of talent around them.

I know, it’s a preposterous idea, but no less preposterous than dismissing Purdy because of the team he’s on.

[murphysxm]

Let's just give the award to Tyreek and move on

[Jigga94]

Let's just give the award to Tyreek and move on

16 game pace of 124/1975/16

[hoos89]

He's also second in the league to Tua in throwing to the most open receivers at 40% of his throws. The positive in that is that he is making the right reads and throwing to the open receiver. The detractor to that is that his receivers are being schemed extremely well and are wide open a lot more than for other QBs. That is the argument against him as an MVP candidate. Is it more him or more the system/talent that makes it work so well.

And if Tua had the same stats, efficiency, etc
as Purdy he'd be the front runner for MVP.

[Valhalla]

He's also second in the league to Tua in throwing to the most open receivers at 40% of his throws. The positive in that is that he is making the right reads and throwing to the open receiver. The detractor to that is that his receivers are being schemed extremely well and are wide open a lot more than for other QBs. That is the argument against him as an MVP candidate. Is it more him or more the system/talent that makes it work so well.

And if Tua had the same stats, efficiency, etc
as Purdy he'd be the front runner for MVP.

Yeah but Tua has an abundance of weapons too. We can't seriously consider a guy an MVP if he's surrounded by talent.
I think we need to start seriously looking at Bailey Zappe for MVP.

[hoos89]

Yeah but Tua has an abundance of weapons too. We can't seriously consider a guy an MVP if he's surrounded by talent.
I think we need to start seriously looking at Bailey Zappe for MVP.

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And for the people who talk about his passing yards coming from YAC. 48.6% of his passing yards are YAC. Look at how that compares to past MVP winners

2020 Aaron Rodgers: 52.2%
2021 Aaron Rodgers: 52.7%
2022 Patrick Mahomes: 54.3%
2023 Brock Purdy: 48.6%
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Also QBs contribute to YAC. How many times have we heard announcers say "that would have been a TD if [QB] had hit him in stride"?

[mgscott]

He's also second in the league to Tua in throwing to the most open receivers at 40% of his throws. The positive in that is that he is making the right reads and throwing to the open receiver. The detractor to that is that his receivers are being schemed extremely well and are wide open a lot more than for other QBs. That is the argument against him as an MVP candidate. Is it more him or more the system/talent that makes it work so well.

And if Tua had the same stats, efficiency, etc
as Purdy he'd be the front runner for MVP.

He does

[mgscott]

Let's just give the award to Tyreek and move on

agreed

[hoos89]

He's also second in the league to Tua in throwing to the most open receivers at 40% of his throws. The positive in that is that he is making the right reads and throwing to the open receiver. The detractor to that is that his receivers are being schemed extremely well and are wide open a lot more than for other QBs. That is the argument against him as an MVP candidate. Is it more him or more the system/talent that makes it work so well.

And if Tua had the same stats, efficiency, etc
as Purdy he'd be the front runner for MVP.

He does

He actually does not. Purdy has been way more efficient. 6 INTs vs 10. 9.6 YPA vs 8.6. 116 rating vs 106, 75.6 QBR vs 61.9. QB6 in fantasy PPG vs QB14.