Jordan Addison Thread

[wickerkat1212]

We always knew he was going to be good. No surprises here. He'll regress probably but it's not his fault.

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We always knew he was going to be good. No surprises here. He'll regress probably but it's not his fault.

There was a contingent of the Combine Testing crowd that dinged him for his lacklustre 40 and less-than-ideal weight. I'll admit that it made me rewatch him too.

For a minute there, it wasn't a foregone conclusion. I think the Landing Spot + DC helped cement him, though.

Super tough break for all MIN pass catchers. I'm really interested to see what they do at the deadline now. (Probably nothing)

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Super tough break for all MIN pass catchers. I'm really interested to see what they do at the deadline now. (Probably nothing)

Dobbs in town.


I haven’t watched any of him. What is your expectations?

[CGW]

He loves throwing to tight ends.

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Super tough break for all MIN pass catchers. I'm really interested to see what they do at the deadline now. (Probably nothing)

Dobbs in town.


I haven’t watched any of him. What is your expectations?

He does indeed love his TE's. Hock might still be pretty good.

I've not caught much either, just highlights and usage charts. It sounds like they're going to go with the Rookie this week and have Dobbs as the backup, then re-evaluate for Week 10. O'Connells scheme is notably complex, and not something you can just "walk into". Recall that Cousins himself was still struggling with putting it all together on the fly last year; he said coming into this year with it already in place was huge for him to hit the ground running.

So ultimately it'll be a pared-back playbook if Dobbs is under centre, and likely a "Rookie Friendly" one for Jaren Hall too.

On the good side, Justin Jefferson is due back "sooner rather than later" according to Rapoport. So that will help.

But no chance either of these QB's is going to be good enough to support all 3 elite fantasy pass catching options (JJ / Addo / Hock) in this offense like Cousins could, so my expectations are that it will be a weekly blowup game for 1/3 or 2/3 at best.

And best of luck to us picking which ones...

[Valhalla]

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And best of luck to us picking which ones...

Likely a "Jefferson and" type of situation.

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And best of luck to us picking which ones...

Likely a "Jefferson and" type of situation.

I want to agree, but if Dobbs is under center....



I think Hockensen is going to be the safest bet of the bunch.

Jefferson will likely continue commanding doubles wherever he goes. He's one of the few players in the NFL that commands a true double-team on passing downs.

My sense is that defenses will make Dobbs beat them with his arm, double Jefferson, and say "best of luck".

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And best of luck to us picking which ones...

Likely a "Jefferson and" type of situation.

I want to agree, but if Dobbs is under center....



I think Hockensen is going to be the safest bet of the bunch.

Jefferson will likely continue commanding doubles wherever he goes. He's one of the few players in the NFL that commands a true double-team on passing downs.

My sense is that defenses will make Dobbs beat them with his arm, double Jefferson, and say "best of luck".

I like the looks of that. Calms the nerves a bit

[Lumps]

Dobbs is extremely intelligent. Don’t think the complex playbook is gonna be a problem…

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/270 ... raft-steal

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Dobbs is extremely intelligent. Don’t think the complex playbook is gonna be a problem…

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/270 ... raft-steal

I don't care who you are - you can't master an NFL playbook in one week flat.

If he'd had a full offseason then yeah, sure...

[FantasyFreak]

Dobbs is extremely intelligent. Don’t think the complex playbook is gonna be a problem…

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/270 ... raft-steal

I don't care who you are - you can't master an NFL playbook in one week flat.

If he'd had a full offseason then yeah, sure...

Totally agree. It's not just that, either. It's mastering it on the field, not in your head. X's and O's don't move. You don't know the WR's, the OL, ANYBODY. Verbage, communications, etc. It's a tough ask. Going to a 3rd system this season. No matter what your intelligence level is.

[Anteaters]

It's also not 100% Dobbs' responsibility to master the entire playbook in a week. It's about the coaches realizing they have a new QB and simplifiying the play book to the bare bones. Then each week, adding in a bit more to each gameplan until by week 15 or so, Dobbs can handle a significant portion of the playbook.

If a player as football smart as Dobbs looks lost in his first two starts, half the blame goes to the coaches.

[Sriracha]

It's also not 100% Dobbs' responsibility to master the entire playbook in a week. It's about the coaches realizing they have a new QB and simplifiying the play book to the bare bones. Then each week, adding in a bit more to each gameplan until by week 15 or so, Dobbs can handle a significant portion of the playbook.

If a player as football smart as Dobbs looks lost in his first two starts, half the blame goes to the coaches.

MIN trading for Dobbs is a low risk move.

I don't believe he was brought in here to be "the guy" while Kirk is out. They drafted a guy in the 5th with some interesting tools who will probably stink and Dobbs was brought in to stabilize the team if he can't get it done.

[Anteaters]

It's also not 100% Dobbs' responsibility to master the entire playbook in a week. It's about the coaches realizing they have a new QB and simplifiying the play book to the bare bones. Then each week, adding in a bit more to each gameplan until by week 15 or so, Dobbs can handle a significant portion of the playbook.

If a player as football smart as Dobbs looks lost in his first two starts, half the blame goes to the coaches.

MIN trading for Dobbs is a low risk move.

I don't believe he was brought in here to be "the guy" while Kirk is out. They drafted a guy in the 5th with some interesting tools who will probably stink and Dobbs was brought in to stabilize the team if he can't get it done.

I get what you're saying, that Dobbs isn't expected to be as good as Cousins at generating wins or being that good of a QB.

OTOH, I think Dobbs was brought in to the The Guy for the rest of the season, and I think Minnesota still wants to compete for a playoff spot. I don't think the team intends, at this time, to just play out the season amid a flurry of losses and say "oh well, what could we do?"

They're hoping Dobbs can be good enough to win enough games to make the playoffs. And I think that means the coaching staff is going to be working overtime with him to get him ready. In that sense, Dobbs is expected to be The Guy and not just a loser-generator. I think.

[Sriracha]

It's also not 100% Dobbs' responsibility to master the entire playbook in a week. It's about the coaches realizing they have a new QB and simplifiying the play book to the bare bones. Then each week, adding in a bit more to each gameplan until by week 15 or so, Dobbs can handle a significant portion of the playbook.

If a player as football smart as Dobbs looks lost in his first two starts, half the blame goes to the coaches.

MIN trading for Dobbs is a low risk move.

I don't believe he was brought in here to be "the guy" while Kirk is out. They drafted a guy in the 5th with some interesting tools who will probably stink and Dobbs was brought in to stabilize the team if he can't get it done.

I get what you're saying, that Dobbs isn't expected to be as good as Cousins at generating wins or being that good of a QB.

OTOH, I think Dobbs was brought in to the The Guy for the rest of the season, and I think Minnesota still wants to compete for a playoff spot. I don't think the team intends, at this time, to just play out the season amid a flurry of losses and say "oh well, what could we do?"

They're hoping Dobbs can be good enough to win enough games to make the playoffs. And I think that means the coaching staff is going to be working overtime with him to get him ready. In that sense, Dobbs is expected to be The Guy and not just a loser-generator. I think.

We'll see but I think people are writing of Jaren Hall too quickly. The guy has starter level traits despite being a 5th round pick.