2023 Draft
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Re: 2023 Draft
Vaughn was an elite pass catcher in college. Not just screens or flare outs, he won over the middle.
His burst and vision as a runner is top notch. Hard to really project what he’s in for but in a deep league he’s an exciting stash.
His burst and vision as a runner is top notch. Hard to really project what he’s in for but in a deep league he’s an exciting stash.
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Re: 2023 Draft
Deneric Prince is another riser over the last few months.
League #1- 14 tm ppr, 1Q, 2R, 3W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1K
1 DT, 2 DE, 2 LB, 1 CB, 1 S, 1 flex
League #2- 12 team PPR, 1Q, 1R, 2W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1 W/R/T, 1 Def
League #3- 12 tm PPR, 1Q, 0R (yes, ZERO RB) 3W, 1T, 2 R/W/T flex, 1 Def
1 DT, 2 DE, 2 LB, 1 CB, 1 S, 1 flex
League #2- 12 team PPR, 1Q, 1R, 2W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1 W/R/T, 1 Def
League #3- 12 tm PPR, 1Q, 0R (yes, ZERO RB) 3W, 1T, 2 R/W/T flex, 1 Def
Re: 2023 Draft
Warrick Dunn was the name that popped into my head for small rb that had good success
12 Team, 1QB, 3WR, 2RB, 1TE, 1Flex, D, K, 10 Bench
1PPR, 0.5 point per carry.
Burrow, Richardson
AJ Brown, DJMoore, G Wilson, T Higgens, Sutton, Tillman, Melton
King Henry, Bijan, Pacheco, Mixon, Ford, JK
Hockenson, Musgrave
Random Kicker
Niners
Picks in 2024 - #15, #22, #23, #27
1PPR, 0.5 point per carry.
Burrow, Richardson
AJ Brown, DJMoore, G Wilson, T Higgens, Sutton, Tillman, Melton
King Henry, Bijan, Pacheco, Mixon, Ford, JK
Hockenson, Musgrave
Random Kicker
Niners
Picks in 2024 - #15, #22, #23, #27
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Re: 2023 Draft
Yessir. Picking up him wherever I can.Pullo Vision wrote: ↑Sat Aug 19, 2023 11:57 am Deneric Prince is another riser over the last few months.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL
D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, BENSON (R), Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, POLK (R), CORLEY (R), Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT
Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield, RATTLER (R) RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Mostert, BRob, ESTIME (R) WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Lockett, Myers, COWING (R), MWASHINGTON (R) TE—Kmet, Kraft, SANDERS (R), Conklin, Hurst PK—Elliott DEF—PHI
Superflex 2:
QB: MAYE (R), Goff, Cousins, PENIX (R), Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: HARRISON (R), DJM, Higgins, JSN, BTHOMAS (R), Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, DPJ, Devante TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL
D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, BENSON (R), Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, POLK (R), CORLEY (R), Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT
Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield, RATTLER (R) RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Mostert, BRob, ESTIME (R) WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Lockett, Myers, COWING (R), MWASHINGTON (R) TE—Kmet, Kraft, SANDERS (R), Conklin, Hurst PK—Elliott DEF—PHI
Superflex 2:
QB: MAYE (R), Goff, Cousins, PENIX (R), Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: HARRISON (R), DJM, Higgins, JSN, BTHOMAS (R), Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, DPJ, Devante TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble
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Re: 2023 Draft
In 2QB/SF leagues, O'Connell should have a huge jump.
10 tms 27 plrs PPR
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball
QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble
2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th
12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball
QB: Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Mitchell ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), E Moore ('25), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $102
IR: --
TAXI SQUAD (4 max): --
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball
QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble
2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th
12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball
QB: Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Mitchell ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), E Moore ('25), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $102
IR: --
TAXI SQUAD (4 max): --
Re: 2023 Draft
Agreed. If Hooker was a late 2nd or early 3rd, no reason O'Connell shouldn't be in that range now
Re: 2023 Draft
Not for me on the first two.
I already took Musgrave with a late 2nd in my draft, so I think you could argue it. The problem is that there's not much further for him to rise - as he definitely shouldn't be going ahead of Kincaid and Laporta, and probably Mayer. (If you wanted to bet the athletic profile over the production of Mayer I wouldn't argue)
So realistically I think Musgrave is still at that 2.06-2.08 at the highest in a SF.
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Re: 2023 Draft
Tyjae has been there, hope you got him already
Re: 2023 Draft
Musgrave vs Mayer are two players I've been debating with a mid 2nd. Mayer athletic profile doesnt seem to lead to a high fantasy profile, but perhaps he is a solid, if unspectacular, pro with a high floor. I like Musgrave upside and he is one of The Guru's, John Hansen guys. That is good enough for memild wrote: ↑Sat Aug 19, 2023 4:45 pmNot for me on the first two.
I already took Musgrave with a late 2nd in my draft, so I think you could argue it. The problem is that there's not much further for him to rise - as he definitely shouldn't be going ahead of Kincaid and Laporta, and probably Mayer. (If you wanted to bet the athletic profile over the production of Mayer I wouldn't argue)
So realistically I think Musgrave is still at that 2.06-2.08 at the highest in a SF.
I already drafted Spears in earlier drafts. Ahead of Bigsby in a league. I understand people being down on him due to potential knee condition/issues.
Re: 2023 Draft
How about A.T Perry? I haven't seen much discussion about him. He is putting up nice stats in the preseason and Josh Larky mentioned him as one of his top 2 WRs in the entire class in a podcast a week ago.
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Re: 2023 Draft
I like him. Took him on fliers in the 4th round in several leagues. He has a lot of potential.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL
D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, BENSON (R), Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, POLK (R), CORLEY (R), Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT
Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield, RATTLER (R) RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Mostert, BRob, ESTIME (R) WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Lockett, Myers, COWING (R), MWASHINGTON (R) TE—Kmet, Kraft, SANDERS (R), Conklin, Hurst PK—Elliott DEF—PHI
Superflex 2:
QB: MAYE (R), Goff, Cousins, PENIX (R), Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: HARRISON (R), DJM, Higgins, JSN, BTHOMAS (R), Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, DPJ, Devante TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL
D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, BENSON (R), Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, POLK (R), CORLEY (R), Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT
Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield, RATTLER (R) RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Mostert, BRob, ESTIME (R) WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Lockett, Myers, COWING (R), MWASHINGTON (R) TE—Kmet, Kraft, SANDERS (R), Conklin, Hurst PK—Elliott DEF—PHI
Superflex 2:
QB: MAYE (R), Goff, Cousins, PENIX (R), Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: HARRISON (R), DJM, Higgins, JSN, BTHOMAS (R), Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, DPJ, Devante TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble
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Re: 2023 Draft
That's something I'll worry about in 2029. In the meantime I'll just enjoy cheering for him.
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Re: 2023 Draft
He's the guy in regretting missing and will absolutely be targeting throughout the season
12 team, .5PPR, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2RB/WR/TE, 1 SuperFlex, 25 Total (Startup)
QB: Purdy, Penix, Zach Wilson, Hendon Hooker, Aidan O'Connell, Stetson Bennett, Trubisky
RB: Bijan Robinson, KeAndre Miller, Tank Bigsby, Jordan Mason, Kevin Harris
WR: Malik Nabers, Brian Thomas Jr., Ladd McConkey, Jameson Williams, Rashod Bateman, Khalil Shakir, Michael Wilson, Darnell Mooney, Kadarius Toney, DJ Chark, Slayton
TE LaPorta, Kincaid
2025 1st
2025 2nd
2025 3rd
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QB: Josh Allen, Goff, Darnold, AOC, Jimmy G
RB: Mixon, Kamara, Javonte Williams, Charbonnet, Prince, Jordon Mason, Ingram (AZ)
WR: Ja'Marr Chase, Keenan Allen, Drake London, Brandon Aiyuk, Elijah Moore, Marvin Jones, Paris Campbell, Donovon Peoples-Jones
TE: Kincaid, Noah Fant, Likely
2024 2nd
2024 3rd
12 team, .5PPR, TE Premium, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2RB/WR/TE, 1 SuperFlex, 25 Total (Startup)
QB: Purdy, Penix, Zach Wilson, Hendon Hooker, Aidan O'Connell, Stetson Bennett, Trubisky
RB: Bijan Robinson, KeAndre Miller, Tank Bigsby, Jordan Mason, Kevin Harris
WR: Malik Nabers, Brian Thomas Jr., Ladd McConkey, Jameson Williams, Rashod Bateman, Khalil Shakir, Michael Wilson, Darnell Mooney, Kadarius Toney, DJ Chark, Slayton
TE LaPorta, Kincaid
2025 1st
2025 2nd
2025 3rd
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QB: Josh Allen, Goff, Darnold, AOC, Jimmy G
RB: Mixon, Kamara, Javonte Williams, Charbonnet, Prince, Jordon Mason, Ingram (AZ)
WR: Ja'Marr Chase, Keenan Allen, Drake London, Brandon Aiyuk, Elijah Moore, Marvin Jones, Paris Campbell, Donovon Peoples-Jones
TE: Kincaid, Noah Fant, Likely
2024 2nd
2024 3rd
12 team, .5PPR, TE Premium, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2RB/WR/TE, 1 SuperFlex, 25 Total (Startup)
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Re: 2023 Draft
Been stashing him everywhere. This explains why his ownership level is rising in MFL leagues.
League #1- 14 tm ppr, 1Q, 2R, 3W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1K
1 DT, 2 DE, 2 LB, 1 CB, 1 S, 1 flex
League #2- 12 team PPR, 1Q, 1R, 2W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1 W/R/T, 1 Def
League #3- 12 tm PPR, 1Q, 0R (yes, ZERO RB) 3W, 1T, 2 R/W/T flex, 1 Def
1 DT, 2 DE, 2 LB, 1 CB, 1 S, 1 flex
League #2- 12 team PPR, 1Q, 1R, 2W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1 W/R/T, 1 Def
League #3- 12 tm PPR, 1Q, 0R (yes, ZERO RB) 3W, 1T, 2 R/W/T flex, 1 Def
Re: 2023 Draft
I understand the baseline of that argument but I don’t think anyone is worried about 2029. I think the fear is that he is probably one bad knee injury in that knee away from having to hang it up. Hopefully that’s wrong because he’s a good player and seems like a good kid so I’d love to see him succeed. I just don’t know how anyone can be confident that he will last even through his rookie contract. I will say, I’ve had more and more urge to try and trade for him as the season gets closer. He is very talented.MFundercover wrote: ↑Sat Aug 19, 2023 6:54 pmThat's something I'll worry about in 2029. In the meantime I'll just enjoy cheering for him.
Team:14 Team Dynasty 1/2 PPR Unlimited Keepers 2IR
Starting Reqs: 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1WRT 1K 1Def
QB - Mahomes
RB - Bijan, Najee, Dobbins, Chase Brown, Abanikanda
WR - Chase, Waddle, A. Cooper, JSN, Jameson Williams, Downs, QJ, Hutchinson
TE - Andrews, Kelce, Schoonmaker
K- Butker
Def- Chiefs
Picks:
2024 1.04, 1.06, 1.07, 2.04, 3.06
2025 1st, 2 3rds
2026 1st, 3rd
Starting Reqs: 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1WRT 1K 1Def
QB - Mahomes
RB - Bijan, Najee, Dobbins, Chase Brown, Abanikanda
WR - Chase, Waddle, A. Cooper, JSN, Jameson Williams, Downs, QJ, Hutchinson
TE - Andrews, Kelce, Schoonmaker
K- Butker
Def- Chiefs
Picks:
2024 1.04, 1.06, 1.07, 2.04, 3.06
2025 1st, 2 3rds
2026 1st, 3rd
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