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Why is Sean taylor falling in rookie draft rankings. 6 weeks ago he was at 1.11 now he has fallen to 2.12. Any thoughts?

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, bro, but…

Valhalla wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 6:49 pm I hate to be the bearer of bad news, bro, but…

RIP.

What is going on with him?

sehon4 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 6:58 pm What is going on with him?

Sean Taylor was killed years ago in a robbery. You are no doubt thinking of Sean Tucker.

Yes Sean Tucker i meant thanks for the correction. Does anyone know why he is falling? Is he significantly injured where it will impact his future?

sehon4 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 12:10 am Yes Sean Tucker i meant thanks for the correction. Does anyone know why he is falling? Is he significantly injured where it will impact his future?

He is falling because he failed medical checks at the combine and wasn’t allowed to participate in his pro day because of another round of failed medical checks. I haven’t been able to find out why he failed the checks. It seems like he recently cleared checks though because he had a last minute pro day scheduled before the draft. NFL teams have access to the medicals so we will see in the draft how concerned they are by where they draft him. He will likely slip though because there are so many other options in the draft without that red flag. It’s a situation I will watch closely though, because if he starts slipping to the back half of the 2nd in my rookie drafts, I will probably snag him there.

Now that the initial issue with the OP is fixed:

Tucker looks to me like the classic case of a RB who is very productive at the college level but does not have the traits necessary to see a productive transfer to the next level. He absolutely has the required athleticism, and the problem with that is it cloaks his weaknesses.

He’s fast as all get out when he gets loose and can string moves together as he progresses into the second and third level. He’s a very tough cover for any LB because of his speed. He keeps his legs churning upon contact and will move forward as he’s being tackled. He has good hands as a receiver and he has very good ball security. There are some very real positive traits.

Here’s the problems. He doesn’t run well in traffic and has trouble identifying seams when they aren’t wide open. In the NFL the holes are a lot slimmer and close quicker. When there isn’t a decisive hole he struggles to identify a seam and then get into it quickly. He’s hesitant and doesn’t see the small opening with enough determination and burst to get into it and through. Instead he waffles behind the line and ends up an easy tackle because he’s not a physical runner. He’ll never be a pile mover and will not get short yardage opportunities in the NFL. As a receiver he’s a sloppy route runner which negates his electric speed. It makes him a much easier cover at the pro level because he surrenders angles and doesn’t fool coverage. In pass protection he’s downright incompetent and will likely get his QB creamed when he’s required to pick up a rusher. He plays to his small size.

He can’t be a 3 down back in the NFL. He doesn’t have the interior rushing ability and doesn’t have the vision and determination to run in a zone stretch scheme. He’ll get pulled in short yardage and goal line opportunities. He could be a CoP RB but he’s going to have to improve his route running a lot and he has miles to go before he’s even barely competent and he’ll get trusted in pass protection.

I don’t think he has the mentality and physical nature to be a special team guy - maybe there’d be room as a returner for him. So I’m really struggling to figure out where he gets significant touches as a NFL RB. Then you add in the mysterious red flag of the medical issue that has sidelined him during the pre-draft process. There’s a real chance he could end up as an UDFA.

Someone will fall in love with his college tape and raw speed enough to draft him well before I’d be willing to burn a pick on him. There’s just not enough positive NFL level RB traits there and his flaws are just glaring.

He's dropping because medicals are convincing rankers and drafters that his draft capital is gonna plummet. Draft capital is the biggest indicator of success in the NFL and for fantasy. As news of some teams having him completely off the board comes out, the likelihood of him being drafted decreases and his projected capital decreases.

Ok so it seems like he has lost value, Can any of these negatives of his be fixed by coaching such that he has a surprise positive rebound in the NFL? Blocking, route running, gap recognition to avoid indeciveness behind the line. Perhaps he is too focus on the big play and not simply taking what the defense is giving you which can sometimes lead to a bigger play?

On a different note which one of these other backs are considered the best all round backs and may qualify for 3 down work? Don't tell me about the top 3 they will be gone in the first 7 picks. I am personally taking Bijan at 1.01. However i also have the 2.01, 2.05 and 2.08. I am looking for possibbly a second and even 3rd back out of this draft

Rank these backs in order of best 3 down capability:
Devon Achane
Kendre Miller
Tyjae Spears
Tank Bigsby
Zach Evans
Israel Abanikanda
Sean Tucker

sehon4 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 5:54 am Ok so it seems like he has lost value, Can any of these negatives of his be fixed by coaching such that he has a surprise positive rebound in the NFL? Blocking, route running, gap recognition to avoid indeciveness behind the line. Perhaps he is too focus on the big play and not simply taking what the defense is giving you which can sometimes lead to a bigger play?

On a different note which one of these other backs are considered the best all round backs and may qualify for 3 down work? Don't tell me about the top 3 they will be gone in the first 7 picks. I am personally taking Bijan at 1.01. However i also have the 2.01, 2.05 and 2.08. I am looking for possibbly a second and even 3rd back out of this draft

Rank these backs in order of best 3 down capability:
Devon Achane
Kendre Miller
Tyjae Spears
Tank Bigsby
Zach Evans
Israel Abanikanda
Sean Tucker

If you draft after the NFL draft the best indicator is draft capital. Avoid day 3 backs. You really want to target backs that are drafted in rounds 1&2 though with this year's RB depth, I think we see bijan go in first round, then maybe a couple in round 2 and several round 3. I think teams may pass on a RB in round 2 and go for them in round 3 due to depth.

There’s lots of information on the board about the RBs in this draft that you can read. The the 2023 draft thread for starters, or use the search function with the names of the RBs that you are interested in.

https://twitter.com/eriiclindberg/statu ... mz2_A&s=19

Because of an ongoing heart issue that was revealed at the combine, his football future is in jeopardy. 'This sounds like it’s not going away,' said one team executive. 'Essentially, he could be done.'

No idea if it's legit.

His pro day is tomorrow.

Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 10:16 am https://twitter.com/eriiclindberg/statu ... mz2_A&s=19

Because of an ongoing heart issue that was revealed at the combine, his football future is in jeopardy. 'This sounds like it’s not going away,' said one team executive. 'Essentially, he could be done.'

No idea if it's legit.

His pro day is tomorrow.

https://twitter.com/seantucker2020/stat ... 1676830721

Tucker doesn't seem worried.

I don't understand how he would be cleared if the quote from the article was true. Still worth noting, but I wonder if that quote was taken before Tucker was cleared.

Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 10:16 am https://twitter.com/eriiclindberg/statu ... mz2_A&s=19

Because of an ongoing heart issue that was revealed at the combine, his football future is in jeopardy. 'This sounds like it’s not going away,' said one team executive. 'Essentially, he could be done.'

No idea if it's legit.

His pro day is tomorrow.

Oh crap. I hope this isn’t myocarditis