Anyone Trust Roy Helu (or Mike Shanny) Longterm?

[MARKinMI]

The point of topic was about him using a RBBC and thus killing the value of his RBs for fantasy purposes. I disagree with that. Speaking As a life long Denver Bronco fan your not taking into account various things in your little chart. He had like 6 straight 1000 yd rushers which doesnt happen in a crazy never know whos starting committee approach. He rode each of those guys until they were hurt and surplanted by the next out of nowhere RB. i agree and its been well documented that shanny (rightly so) thought he could take a certain type of RB and make him good in that system with that O-line regardless of petigree. Droughns was dealt due to contract issues, Anderson was allowed to leave to cash in and more importantly Portis was dealt for 2 reasons. 1) Shanny didn't like his attitude, his flashyness and more importantly the broncos had just gotten thrashed by the colts passing attack in the playoffs and had a chance to get (at the time) the best DB in NFL (Champ Bailey). Tatum Bell was moved on from because he just didnt run thru tackles (despite being a 2nd round pick), same with selvin young. what your list doesnt show is that Shannahan looks to have had a fundemental change in thinking after those RBs on your list. He wasted a high (for shanny) pick on Clarrett after failing with Tatum Bell's 2nd round drafting and when that failed He spent a ton of money to sign travis henry to be THE GUY. Henry like all of the denver RBs the next few years couldn't stay on the field due to injury. My point is that if shannahan finds a RB he trusts, and that RB can stay healthy, he will ride them.

[Misfit74]

I think we should all defer to Skip on this one.

[ascherb]

I guess I'm gonna keep him and wait and see what he does the rest of this year before I do anything.

Hightower is likely going to leave, right? And Torain obviously isn't a stud RB in this league, so that leaves Helu and the former Penn State RB (Roysten? sp?).

Chances are good that Helu is gonna be the guy IMO, at least until he proves he can't.

[skip]

I've said my peace on this topic already. If you can't bank on 8 years of evidence then you are a lost cause. I don't trust Shanahan THIS WEEK, much less long term. The second that Tashard Choice gets healthy, guaranteed he gets his week to start while Helu (assuming he is even still the starter) gets the bench. Shanny's system may work great for him, but for fantasy owners it is a nightmare. I would love to have Helu on my team if played in any other offense. But not in Washington. His talent will be wasted.

[MARKinMI]

I've said my peace on this topic already. If you can't bank on 8 years of evidence then you are a lost cause. I don't trust Shanahan THIS WEEK, much less long term. The second that Tashard Choice gets healthy, guaranteed he gets his week to start while Helu (assuming he is even still the starter) gets the bench. Shanny's system may work great for him, but for fantasy owners it is a nightmare. I would love to have Helu on my team if played in any other offense. But not in Washington. His talent will be wasted.

I just dont understand your 8 year comment. I got lots of great seasons from shannahan RBs. As for Helu... he's a rookie that had no camp. It's pretty clear that shannahan is easing him in as he learns the offense and protections.

[Water Buffalo]

Shanny naming Torain the starter today = LOL

[MikeCross]

Shanny naming Torain the starter today = LOL

ROFL
On a side note, Shanny is completely out of his mind. Him and his kid are stealing money from Snyder. Horrible coaches. Elway was obv running those DEN teams, not ^^.

[ascherb]

I honestly don't get Shanny.

Helu is easily the most talented RB they have and yet he continues to fock around with Torain.

[MikeCross]

Since Hightower went down, he has started the back no one thought he would start, every week.

[Steelersfan]

Since Hightower went down, he has started the back no one thought he would start, every week.

And now Shanny's playing QB roulette...

[Team Canada]

Since Hightower went down, he has started the back no one thought he would start, every week.

And now Shanny's playing QB roulette...

it is not like FF teams were depending on John Beck or Rex Grossman every week... heck you wouldn't catch me starting neither of those QBs all year.

[Steelersfan]

Since Hightower went down, he has started the back no one thought he would start, every week.

And now Shanny's playing QB roulette...

it is not like FF teams were depending on John Beck or Rex Grossman every week... heck you wouldn't catch me starting neither of those QBs all year.

I was forced to play Beck in week 7 due to injury and bye week issues...and I won so I was depending on Beck that week. Every week is important...

[skip]

FWIW, Rotoworld seems to think they have at least something figured out...

Coach Mike Shanahan had no real explanation for his decision to feature Ryan Torain in Sunday's loss to the Dolphins.
Shanahan talked up Roy Helu as his every-down back last week and then started Torain yesterday. "I wanted to give Ryan a chance to see what he could do against a very good defensive team," Shanahan said. After Torain was blatantly ineffective through two-plus quarters, Helu got a shot to play every down as the "passing" back. We can't predict who will start next week's game, but we can confidently say that Helu projects as the more productive player.

Anyone familiar with the silly camp song, "This is the song that never ends."? This is what we have here...a discussion which continues to go round and round as it has for a long time between those who seem to think they hit on a valuable asset in a Shanahan backfield and those that think there isn't one.

[HHorsie]

Maybe Mike is so out of his mind that he is purposely screwing around with FF leagues. Maybe he owns Torain in a Fantasy league or something. He is a horrible coach and his players have to have very little respect for someone who obviously does not value his players. I know if I was playing and a coach threw me under the bus because I had a "bad" game and then still sat me following a franchise record breaking game I would be doing everything that I could to get out of the situation. He is just tipping the scale in favor of his ridiculous philosophy that franchise RB's are a dime a dozen. If a player has success he purposely ruins the opportunity to continue that success. In essence he is stacking the cards in favor of his 'philosophy.' I cannot wait until the Redskins move on.

[lake3711]

That was a bummer. Shanahan is a weird dude. Maybe he will start Tashard Choice this week.

I don't understand why you wouldnt want your young players to get some experience, or get a chance to evaluate them. Or just try to win because Helu is better.