You Should Be Up on Josh Downs

[Ruggenater]

Maybe Downs is the good thing that comes from AR's injury. By having extended time with Minshew, he can establish himself as a key part of the offense. Have a share of him and I'm encouraged.

And now no Alec Pierce

Has there been another WR who gets nearly all of the snaps and is a complete 0 in fantasy?

We call that the MVS role

[Jigga94]

And now no Alec Pierce

Has there been another WR who gets nearly all of the snaps and is a complete 0 in fantasy?

We call that the MVS role

Ya that's a good one

[YouMightDieTryin]

[Cameron Giles]

5/125/1 on six targets against Cleveland. He's looking really good out there and showing very solid trust and chemistry with Minshew.

[Jigga94]

Stud

[wickerkat1212]

Are we starting him now? I haven't yet.

Not starting over Lamb, Diggs, Olave, DJM, Puka.

[Anteaters]

Are we starting him now? I haven't yet.

Not starting over Lamb, Diggs, Olave, DJM, Puka.

If I had him, I'd probably start him on most of my teams. I'm not starting him over Diggs or Lamb yet. He' in the discussion for starting over Olave, DJM and Puka.

[tstafford]

I liked Downs during the draft process and took him in my SF league.

Question: how much do we think his production is tied to AR being hurt? Is he a sell high? Or has he emerged and thus a hold?

If the answer is to move him, what are folks looking for?

[Anteaters]

I liked Downs during the draft process and took him in my SF league.

Question: how much do we think his production is tied to AR being hurt? Is he a sell high? Or has he emerged and thus a hold?

I think part of his pro breakout is due to AR being hurt, but I don't think that will hurt him when AR returns. AR is good enough and smart enough to throw to Downs, one of his best WRs.

My biggest worry for Downs' fantasy production is the presence of Pittman. As much as the Colts have history, it's hard to believe this current team can truly support fantasy studs at QB/RB/WR1/WR2 and a promising TE. If Irsay gets cheap and lets Pittman move on, I'd feel great about Downs. If Pittman stays, I think Downs becomes a better version of Dotson for fantasy purposes. Not comparing their styles in real life, but their situations. A talented WR who is his NFL team's WR2, and that NFL team does not have a top NFL offense, will never be a great consistent fantasy producer. Pittman is too good to be ignored in predicting the future of Downs.

If the answer is to move him, what are folks looking for?

Moving him or keeping him depends on each manager's stance on his future. If you're confident his current stats are just the beginning of a Aiyuk like rise, you have to keep him and hope he maintains this level of production. If you think his production is unsustainable, trading him now seems like it would produce the most value he'll ever be worth.

If I could get a first, I'd have a hard time convincing myself not to take the deal. My doubts are that 1) AR returns 2) Irsay doesn't pay Minshew and Minshew leaves in the offseason 3) Pittman remains. If those things happen, Downs' production is going to be capped at a level I don't think will be what it is now.

I just get all kinds of hot-young-receiver-flashes-before-coming-back-down-to-earth vibes about this. We just went through it with Jeudy/EMoore/3differentGBreceivers/and more. Downs is good, but he's not so immensely talented his skill rises above everything else. His situation matters greatly. And I don't think his situation is trustworthy.

Holding isn't a bad idea, but a mid1st in SF would be too good for me to say no to. A 2nd and I'm definitely holding.

[Jigga94]

I liked Downs during the draft process and took him in my SF league.

Question: how much do we think his production is tied to AR being hurt? Is he a sell high? Or has he emerged and thus a hold?

If the answer is to move him, what are folks looking for?

I don't think it matters who his QB is. He runs amazing routes and can win all over the field. I'd want at least a 1st and would likely pass on a late 1st at this time

[Jigga94]

Are we starting him now? I haven't yet.

Not starting over Lamb, Diggs, Olave, DJM, Puka.

Lamb, Diggs and Puka are all locked in starters/WR1 so no. DJM and Olave are also very good WR2 for fantasy right now, they are likely safer. That said, Downs should be in that WR30 conversation for week to week starters, possibly even higher with bye weeks

[CGW]

Are we starting him now? I haven't yet.

Not starting over Lamb, Diggs, Olave, DJM, Puka.

Obviously depends on your team... No he's not starting over the guys listed above, who are all top 22 guys on the season. Around the late 20s and into 30s it gets a lot less consistent, and that's where Downs would slide in.

[Cameron Giles]

I liked Downs during the draft process and took him in my SF league.

Question: how much do we think his production is tied to AR being hurt? Is he a sell high? Or has he emerged and thus a hold?

If the answer is to move him, what are folks looking for?

Downs was showing off with Richardson in the lineup, though Minshew is definitely a boost in the passing game over a rookie. I think people forget that Minshew could start on a few teams right now outside of the Colts.

I don't think Downs is a sell high at all. His tape is mirroring what he did at UNC.

[Orenthal Shames]

Are we starting him now? I haven't yet.

He's been plugged in as my WR4/flex the last 2 weeks

[Cameron Giles]

I just get all kinds of hot-young-receiver-flashes-before-coming-back-down-to-earth vibes about this. We just went through it with Jeudy/EMoore/3differentGBreceivers/and more. Downs is good, but he's not so immensely talented his skill rises above everything else. His situation matters greatly. And I don't think his situation is trustworthy.

Holding isn't a bad idea, but a mid1st in SF would be too good for me to say no to. A 2nd and I'm definitely holding.

Downs isn't going to post 125 yards every game, or get as open as he did on a wheel route each game. That said, he's a Day 2 WR with an 87th percentile breakout, and checked out big time in a lot of advanced stats that you want to see from a WR prospect.

There's going to be variance in every young WR. Statistical improvement is not linear and dynasty is a game of peaks and valleys. But, so far Downs looks exactly like the player in the OP and was always a perfect fit for this offense as a pure separator who increases the teams high % pass plays.

His skill set and talent is not coming back down to earth. The way he wins is very sustainable.