Joshua Palmer anyone?

[Shagmyster90]

Was unable to locate any Josh Palmer threads but was interested in where we see this guy longterm. I was one of the fortunate owners who had Justin and Josh going last night and saw glimpse of greatness between the two. Not gonna blow the top off a defense but his route running seems well above average.

[halfbaked88]

I think LAC bring in another receiver next year. M Will and K Allen's injuries will weigh in on the draft. If it's a 2nd round or higher pick Palmer's best hope is a PPR flex/bye week guy, more than likely a WR-4, maybe even WR5/6 worst case.

Palmer seems like a solid player being elevated by an elite QB. But not someone I'd be targeting with any draft stock at this time. He seems very replaceable to me from an NFL and fantasy aspect. It's too easy for Day2 WRs to lose their jobs on the depth chart.

I paired Palmer+Deon Jackson to get a mid 2nd.

[hoos89]

Herbert's not exactly playing like an elite QB this season, though

[Pac_Eddy]

Herbert's not exactly playing like an elite QB this season, though

He's been battling a rib injury and missing his top three receivers. He'll get back to normal.

As to Palmer, he's had a lot of chances to show something and just hasn't. I think he's a long shot for fantasy relevance.

[bjd5211]

As to Palmer, he's had a lot of chances to show something and just hasn't. I think he's a long shot for fantasy relevance.

Yes because 8/106 in 2 of his last 3 games is "showing nothing".

[hoos89]

Herbert's not exactly playing like an elite QB this season, though

He's been battling a rib injury and missing his top three receivers. He'll get back to normal.

As to Palmer, he's had a lot of chances to show something and just hasn't. I think he's a long shot for fantasy relevance.

The point I was responding to was that Palmer has benefited from elite QB play this season, which he currently is not.

And you don't consider 2 of the last 3 games at 8/106 and 8/106/2 to be showing something? He's a WR3 on the season, 5 of 9 games this season of 13+ points. He's the WR3 this week entering MNF! Higher PPG than every rookie WR aside from Olave.

[Pac_Eddy]

As to Palmer, he's had a lot of chances to show something and just hasn't. I think he's a long shot for fantasy relevance.

Yes because 8/106 in 2 of his last 3 games is "showing nothing".

A couple games doesn't change much for me.

I did think this was his third season, but it's his second, so my thinking was off a little. I still think he's a long shot for fantasy relevance, though I'd give him another year.

[hoos89]

As to Palmer, he's had a lot of chances to show something and just hasn't. I think he's a long shot for fantasy relevance.

Yes because 8/106 in 2 of his last 3 games is "showing nothing".

A couple games doesn't change much for me.

I did think this was his third season, but it's his second, so my thinking was off a little. I still think he's a long shot for fantasy relevance, though I'd give him another year.

He's also had 6/99 (as well as 4/30/1 and 9/57) this season. Has been solid in most of his games this year and is a WR3 on the season, outpacing every rookie WR besides Olave. He's also a 3rd rounder so it's not like he has 0 draft capital.

In 2021 he only played a majority of snaps in 4 games, and in those games he averaged 12.3 points. So he was actually pretty solid when given an opportunity. I don't think anyone is suggesting he's a future WR1 but he just turned 23 in September and it seems like he has potential to be a solid WR2.

[MacDaddy123]

Herbert's not exactly playing like an elite QB this season, though

He's been battling a rib injury and missing his top three receivers. He'll get back to normal.

As to Palmer, he's had a lot of chances to show something and just hasn't. I think he's a long shot for fantasy relevance.

From what I have seen I can see Palmer being somewhat successful as a complimentary receiver, as he plays much better when Allen and Williams are on the field.

He is NOT an alpha, as we all saw when he was out there without Allen and Williams.
That said, there are places on fantasy rosters for complementary WR's.
Not everyone is a superstar.

[Two Cents]

It should be noted that Mike Williams was a top 10 pick in comparison to Keenan Allens 3rd round draft status. I think this is one of those scenarios where it wouldnt be wise to put too much weight into draft capital. I think it tends to matter less for WRs. Especially WR's in offenses that can support multiple WRs. I bought Joshua Palmer for a 2nd about 6 weeks ago and Im really excited about it as I dont think they will spend significant capital on another WR as they just resigned Mike Williams last offseason. With that said I do think Palmer has tremendous upside to replace Allen.

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[Ice]

I had him highly rated entering the draft and own him in all leagues.

Looking more and more like the heir apparent on the Chargers.

He is finally getting a few starts on my teams.

Plays hard.

[Dynasty DeLorean]

Here are the 2021 Rookies in the 20-46 group. Remember, 11 is the highest score we've seen to go on to become a stud.

It was easy to grade the players in the past because we already know what they become so it doesn't matter as much what I put, but it's a bit more challenging grading these players going forward given I don't have criteria written in stone for some of the categories. I probably should have come up with a number for the total team rushing, i don't know why I didn't lol. Maybe I will in the future and revise. I feel like Toney was tough, particularly with the rush volume score.

Of this group, even though his offense was the "best", Palmer was given the least "opportunity."



20-46 YPG

Rashod Bateman
Opportunity - Low
Pass Volume - High
Target Competition –High
QB Talent – Medium
Draft Capital – Extremely High
Rush Volume – Medium
Score: 11
Score with QB Talent: 13

Kadarius Toney
Opportunity - Low
Pass Volume - Low
Target Competition - Low
QB Talent – Low
Draft Capital – Extremely High
Rush Volume – Low
Score: 12
Score with QB Talent: 13

Rondale Moore
Opportunity - Medium
Pass Volume - High
Target Competition - High
QB Talent – Medium
Draft Capital - High
Rush Volume – Medium
Score: 11
Score with QB Talent: 13

Nico Collins
Opportunity - Medium
Pass Volume - Low
Target Competition - High
QB Talent – Stud
Draft Capital - High
Rush Volume – Poor
Score: 11
Score with QB Talent: Infinity

Josh Palmer
Opportunity - low
Pass Volume – Extremely High
Target Competition – Extremely High
QB Talent – High
Draft Capital - High
Rush Volume – High
Score: 9
Score with QB Talent: 12

[Pullo Vision]

I had him highly rated entering the draft and own him in all leagues.

Looking more and more like the heir apparent on the Chargers.

He is finally getting a few starts on my teams.

Plays hard.

Me too, big fan. He landed in the ideal place to develop as the #3 while to eventually supersede them. The WR injuries this year have accelerated his ascension.

He's been traded in multiple leagues of mine for around a 2nd in value this year.

[Kurt G.O.A.T.]

He has been an every week starter for my team in a 16 team league that starts 4 wrs. Pretty handy in that sized league. Not sure if I would be starting him in 12 team leagues unless one of the other wrs on the Chargers is out. Then he is very startable.

[dustyroads]

I think he's a hold to see what happens, but been frustrating as an owner. Can blame luck, or me not knowing the "secret" of when to start him, but he's played in 9 games. 5 of them he put up worthwhile numbers, 4 he did not, and I seem to have guessed wrong the majority of the season lol. And 3 of those 5 "good" games, he was WR20, WR25, and WR33. His season long stats don't tell the full picture of his inconsistency. And comparing him to rookie WRs is kind of a lol... yeah I'd hope he'd be better than most of them as he's in his second year.

Hopefully he replaces Allen next season and gets more consistent targets, and more consistent scoring for fantasy. I still think his most valuable asset is being attached to Herbert, otherwise IMO nothing that he's specifically doing sets him apart from the rest of the WR3s in the barrel.