Jav Will Offer on table

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Jav Will Offer on table

Postby Beer Makes Me Smile » Tue Sep 06, 2022 4:51 am

I have been offered Javonte Williams in a league where I think I am in the middle, but close enough to make a push.

Get: Javonte
Give: Mooney, 23.1, 23.2

League is Superflex, TEP, with .25 points per carry.

Top players below. With Line up requirements.
QB(1-2): Allen, Burrow
RB (2-5): Ekeler, Penny, Walker, Singletary, McKissic
WR (3-6): Godwin, Mooney, Aiyuk, Renfrow, Jameson
TE (1-4) : Fant, Hock

I am considering this to give me a strong 3 headed horse at RB, but it would hurt my WRs and take away my two premium picks.

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Re: Jav Will Offer on table

Postby Gazzerk » Tue Sep 06, 2022 5:04 am

I would take Javonte side immediately. I’m not a big Mooney believer simply because Chicago just has a way of killing talent. I think having Javonte makes you stronger now as well and his value will only rise as his snap share increases.
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Starting Reqs: 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1WRT 1K 1Def
QB - Mahomes
RB - Bijan, Swift, Najee, Dobbins, Gibson, Chase Brown, Abanikanda, Sean Tucker, Zach Evans
WR - Chase, Waddle, A. Cooper, JSN, J. Jeudy, Jameson Williams, Hutchinson
TE - Andrews, T. McBride, Schoonmaker
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Postby FKC » Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:49 am

If you feel you’re that close, I think it’s a good move.
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RB: D Cook, Barkley, Chubb, Ekeler, Dobbins, K Ingram, Brightwell, C/Z/D Evans, I Spiller, Strong Jr, R Rivers
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TE: Ertz, Kittle, Waller, Freiermuth
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Re: Jav Will Offer on table

Postby ColdZealDonkeyStrike » Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:56 am

This is a 1st and 2nd in 23 on top of Mooney for Javonte?
With as deep as RB and QB are next year, I'm not doing that trade in SF unless it's for sure a bottom 3 pick in those rounds.
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Re: Jav Will Offer on table

Postby Beer Makes Me Smile » Tue Sep 06, 2022 7:11 am

ColdZealDonkeyStrike wrote: Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:56 am This is a 1st and 2nd in 23 on top of Mooney for Javonte?
With as deep as RB and QB are next year, I'm not doing that trade in SF unless it's for sure a bottom 3 pick in those rounds.
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Postby SteveMaddensShoes » Tue Sep 06, 2022 7:18 am

ColdZealDonkeyStrike wrote: Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:56 am This is a 1st and 2nd in 23 on top of Mooney for Javonte?
With as deep as RB and QB are next year, I'm not doing that trade in SF unless it's for sure a bottom 3 pick in those rounds.
I completely disagree and think that’s a great deal for Javonta. If the 1st was a top 3 I’d pass but anything mid to late this is a snap accept for me.
TEAM 1 - 12 man SF. ppr, TEP 1.65 ppr

11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)

Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White

Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez

Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo

Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker

24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5

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Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning

JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker

Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,

Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins


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Re: Jav Will Offer on table

Postby murphysxm » Tue Sep 06, 2022 7:41 am

Easy yes for me, but I don't think Mooney is an asset like others do
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Postby CGW » Tue Sep 06, 2022 7:45 am

Probably a good move value wise, especially in PPC, but not PPR.

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Re: Jav Will Offer on table

Postby Gator Sens » Tue Sep 06, 2022 7:57 am

Nice value overall to grab Williams. Hopefully your picks end up on the backend mid to late.

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Re: Jav Will Offer on table

Postby Beer Makes Me Smile » Tue Sep 06, 2022 8:01 am

Gator Sens wrote: Tue Sep 06, 2022 7:57 am Nice value overall to grab Williams. Hopefully your picks end up on the backend mid to late.
I am hoping so. It leaves me super weak at WR if Godwin misses much time and Jameson misses more than half the season which is very likely.

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Re: Jav Will Offer on table

Postby BigBawseRoss » Tue Sep 06, 2022 8:44 am

id prob do it and then unload ekeler, godwin, and renfrow and be looking to compete next year. good price for javonte but i think you are too thin to make a strong run and your assets that can get you a haul now will be at risk of a value plummet. last thing id want is to make playoffs and have ekeler go down late season and then im screwed at rb, have no premium picks to work with, and then feel unispired about my team heading into 23 and watching other teams add top talents.

renfrow stock already tanked, godwin value is on a major upswing but the window is only gonna be a few months long to get top dollar for him, brady leaves and his value sees a big hit again, ekeler is coming off a 20td season and his value wont get higher thats why i say sell now, he will be 28 next year and if he doesnt have another massive season his returns in a trade will not be anywhere near what you can get now imo.
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: Jav Will Offer on table

Postby Beer Makes Me Smile » Tue Sep 06, 2022 8:55 am

BigBawseRoss wrote: Tue Sep 06, 2022 8:44 am id prob do it and then unload ekeler, godwin, and renfrow and be looking to compete next year. good price for javonte but i think you are too thin to make a strong run and your assets that can get you a haul now will be at risk of a value plummet. last thing id want is to make playoffs and have ekeler go down late season and then im screwed at rb, have no premium picks to work with, and then feel unispired about my team heading into 23 and watching other teams add top talents.

renfrow stock already tanked, godwin value is on a major upswing but the window is only gonna be a few months long to get top dollar for him, brady leaves and his value sees a big hit again, ekeler is coming off a 20td season and his value wont get higher thats why i say sell now, he will be 28 next year and if he doesnt have another massive season his returns in a trade will not be anywhere near what you can get now imo.
Yea I will definitely need to get some depth, but I need strong starts from Renfrow and or Godwin to make that happen, right Now i think both are undervalued so trading them would be a L for me.

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Re: Jav Will Offer on table

Postby dblj1199 » Tue Sep 06, 2022 10:26 am

I'm torn on this deal. Yes it's a great price to pay for JWill, but it really hurts your wr depth. Can you win with Ekler, JWill, a rehabbing Godwin and Aiyuk? I'm looking the other way, build around your wr youth, two top qb's, a top end young te and I'd look to move Ekeler. I'd look to a team and try and get picks and a young player. If he starts out hot look for a 1st and a high end upside young player.
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RB- S Barkley, Pollard, B Hall, K Herbert, D Foreman, R Johnson, Zeke, J Robinson, Z White, J Wilson(i.r.), J McKinnon, J Mason, J Hill
WR- J Jefferson, Deebo, DJ Moore, OBJ, S Moore, J Jennings, C Austin, Trey Palmer
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Re: Jav Will Offer on table

Postby BigBawseRoss » Tue Sep 06, 2022 12:43 pm

Beer Makes Me Smile wrote: Tue Sep 06, 2022 8:55 am
BigBawseRoss wrote: Tue Sep 06, 2022 8:44 am id prob do it and then unload ekeler, godwin, and renfrow and be looking to compete next year. good price for javonte but i think you are too thin to make a strong run and your assets that can get you a haul now will be at risk of a value plummet. last thing id want is to make playoffs and have ekeler go down late season and then im screwed at rb, have no premium picks to work with, and then feel unispired about my team heading into 23 and watching other teams add top talents.

renfrow stock already tanked, godwin value is on a major upswing but the window is only gonna be a few months long to get top dollar for him, brady leaves and his value sees a big hit again, ekeler is coming off a 20td season and his value wont get higher thats why i say sell now, he will be 28 next year and if he doesnt have another massive season his returns in a trade will not be anywhere near what you can get now imo.
Yea I will definitely need to get some depth, but I need strong starts from Renfrow and or Godwin to make that happen, right Now i think both are undervalued so trading them would be a L for me.
renfrow never had much value unfortunately so idk that he is gonna have a boom anytime soon. godwin idk how much higher his value can get i dont think he going back into top 5 territory, he will be viewed as a back end wr1 high end wr2 now or in a few weeks. i think the longer you wait the more the realization of the end of brady will be in trade partners heads though
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

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Re: Jav Will Offer on table

Postby Beer Makes Me Smile » Tue Sep 06, 2022 1:22 pm

BigBawseRoss wrote: Tue Sep 06, 2022 12:43 pm
Beer Makes Me Smile wrote: Tue Sep 06, 2022 8:55 am
BigBawseRoss wrote: Tue Sep 06, 2022 8:44 am id prob do it and then unload ekeler, godwin, and renfrow and be looking to compete next year. good price for javonte but i think you are too thin to make a strong run and your assets that can get you a haul now will be at risk of a value plummet. last thing id want is to make playoffs and have ekeler go down late season and then im screwed at rb, have no premium picks to work with, and then feel unispired about my team heading into 23 and watching other teams add top talents.

renfrow stock already tanked, godwin value is on a major upswing but the window is only gonna be a few months long to get top dollar for him, brady leaves and his value sees a big hit again, ekeler is coming off a 20td season and his value wont get higher thats why i say sell now, he will be 28 next year and if he doesnt have another massive season his returns in a trade will not be anywhere near what you can get now imo.
Yea I will definitely need to get some depth, but I need strong starts from Renfrow and or Godwin to make that happen, right Now i think both are undervalued so trading them would be a L for me.
renfrow never had much value unfortunately so idk that he is gonna have a boom anytime soon. godwin idk how much higher his value can get i dont think he going back into top 5 territory, he will be viewed as a back end wr1 high end wr2 now or in a few weeks. i think the longer you wait the more the realization of the end of brady will be in trade partners heads though

In the off-season that's how owners think, but when the games are being played and points are being accumulated owners start to see $$$ and became more willing to give up assets to win now.... Imo.

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