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Mjvb5 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 29, 2022 4:43 pm

grandmabetty wrote: ↑Fri Jul 29, 2022 4:34 pm This thread has become all about defining and disagreeing about the term generational. Anyone have any comments about the prospects in the 23 draft class? Will anyone approach Bijan in terms of perceived output?

Post landing spots someone likely will at least to a subset of the community. My guess would be Gibbs or Evans

JoeJoe88 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 29, 2022 5:06 pm

Mjvb5 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 29, 2022 4:43 pm

grandmabetty wrote: ↑Fri Jul 29, 2022 4:34 pm This thread has become all about defining and disagreeing about the term generational. Anyone have any comments about the prospects in the 23 draft class? Will anyone approach Bijan in terms of perceived output?

Post landing spots someone likely will at least to a subset of the community. My guess would be Gibbs or Evans

Don’t sleep on Sean Tucker.

natjjohn wrote: ↑Thu Jul 28, 2022 6:03 pm

gogobradyarm wrote: ↑Thu Jul 28, 2022 4:05 pm

honcho55 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 28, 2022 4:01 pm It’s kinda hard to come to a consensus on what all these ‘terms’ mean. Generational, elite, etc. I’m general I’d guess the majority of this forum would agree with me that Generational gets overused. The word seems pretty clear that it means something along the lines of “once in a generation”. Well, what’s a generation? 15-20ish years if you go by Gen X/boomer/millennial method, I think that works. Basically a prospect you expect to be the best back in the league for the bulk of his career

Is Bijan the once in 15-20 years prospect? There’s an argument for it. I think I’d take Barkley, but that’s just me.

Are there other guys on top of that? Nah, abusing the word imo.

Also of note, even a generational level prospect can fail, or disappoint, particularly when injuries happen.

So yes, Generational to me is probably closer to a 3-5 year window.

Generational talent and 3-5 year window are quite different I think for most people.

MacDaddy123 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 29, 2022 10:58 pm Generational talent phrase is way overused. I have seen it attached to Zeke, Barkley, and Bijan.
I like Bijan a lot, and he is probably the highest profile RB to come out since Barkley in 2018.

That said, Bijan is only a generational talent if a generation only lasts 3-4 years.
You can't have 6-10 generational RB's in one generation.

Orenthal Shames wrote: ↑Fri Jul 29, 2022 11:18 pm

MacDaddy123 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 29, 2022 10:58 pm Generational talent phrase is way overused. I have seen it attached to Zeke, Barkley, and Bijan.
I like Bijan a lot, and he is probably the highest profile RB to come out since Barkley in 2018.

That said, Bijan is only a generational talent if a generation only lasts 3-4 years.
You can't have 6-10 generational RB's in one generation.

In RB terms, 3-4 years is a lifetime.

MacDaddy123 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 29, 2022 10:58 pm Generational talent phrase is way overused. I have seen it attached to Zeke, Barkley, and Bijan.
I like Bijan a lot, and he is probably the highest profile RB to come out since Barkley in 2018.

That said, Bijan is only a generational talent if a generation only lasts 3-4 years.
You can't have 6-10 generational RB's in one generation.

Kcarr wrote: ↑Fri Jul 29, 2022 6:23 pm
It depends howbwe think of a generation. In terms of people being born, yes, 20 years is probably about right but in terms of a group of players in the NFL I would tend to think of it in terms of player career lifespans so for running backs I could see saying once per 5 year level is generational

gogobradyarm wrote: ↑Thu Jul 28, 2022 3:47 pm I told a league mate (patsfan86) that Bijan is the best player and only generational RB in the class and was told “that is utter nonsense”.

What does the DLF forum feel? Is it “utter nonsense” to say Bijan is the only generational back? I said the other guys were Josh Jacobs level talents. Let’s talk!

MacDaddy123 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 31, 2022 8:30 pm

gogobradyarm wrote: ↑Thu Jul 28, 2022 3:47 pm I told a league mate (patsfan86) that Bijan is the best player and only generational RB in the class and was told “that is utter nonsense”.

What does the DLF forum feel? Is it “utter nonsense” to say Bijan is the only generational back? I said the other guys were Josh Jacobs level talents. Let’s talk!

I would say that Bijan is the only "generational" back, though I feel that phrase is thrown around too loosely.
However, I think there are some other very good RB's coming out in the 2023 class.
More along the lines of Swift, Dobbins, Akers, from the 2020 class, or Mixon, Cook, Kamara from the 2017 class than Josh Jacobs level backs.

I think Zach Evans, Tank Bigsby, Sean Tucker, as well as Devon Archane and Jahmyr Gibbs have the potential to be future RB1's depending on landing spots, etc.

I think the 23 class is much better than the 22 class.
Bijan is better than Breece, and another 3-5 RB's will be better than Ken Walker.

murphysxm wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 7:32 am Let's talk about the the 2024 class. It will be generational!

FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 2:01 am

MacDaddy123 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 31, 2022 8:30 pm

gogobradyarm wrote: ↑Thu Jul 28, 2022 3:47 pm I told a league mate (patsfan86) that Bijan is the best player and only generational RB in the class and was told “that is utter nonsense”.

What does the DLF forum feel? Is it “utter nonsense” to say Bijan is the only generational back? I said the other guys were Josh Jacobs level talents. Let’s talk!

I would say that Bijan is the only "generational" back, though I feel that phrase is thrown around too loosely.
However, I think there are some other very good RB's coming out in the 2023 class.
More along the lines of Swift, Dobbins, Akers, from the 2020 class, or Mixon, Cook, Kamara from the 2017 class than Josh Jacobs level backs.

I think Zach Evans, Tank Bigsby, Sean Tucker, as well as Devon Archane and Jahmyr Gibbs have the potential to be future RB1's depending on landing spots, etc.

I think the 23 class is much better than the 22 class.
Bijan is better than Breece, and another 3-5 RB's will be better than Ken Walker.

I think you're way too high on this class. The 2018 class was a good example of this. That class looked better than this one, and look how that played out. Bigbsy isn't that good IMO, though I like the looks of Tucker. Gibbs is a COP back, until I see otherwise (though he does have a good all round skill set, not convinced he's hard enough to be a lead back, we shall see this season with Bama) and I am not overly impressed with Evans, either. I'd like to be, I own multiple firsts in a start 3 RB/SF league next year. I see nothing spectacular, just good depth.

4-6 RB's better than last years Doak Walker winner, who runs a sub 4.4 at about 210? Good luck with that. Walker as a pure runner has only Bijan to compete with, and speed wise, Bijan isn't there with him. Unless all these guys are catching 80 passes a year, I am calling a big fat no to that idea.

I wouldn't be surprised if half of them can throw the ball better than Jalen Hurts, though.

Shcritters wrote: ↑Thu Jul 28, 2022 6:04 pm The last RB before Barkley that I thought was ‘generational’ was Adrian Peterson. He had the hype building from his freshman year. Bijan is like that… but my gut says every 3-5 years another of those comes along.

FWIW, Zeke wasn’t really considered amazing until he fell into the perfect spot on the Boys. As soon as he was drafted there it was all systems go, but if I remember correctly he wasn’t automatically assumed to be a generational RB. If he wasn’t drafted there I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t even be in this conversation.